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PT Rankings Update #3
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-11-2016 10:09
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Two GTs have been raced since the last big update. The GT rankings can be found in the discussion threads but several other races took part in that period as well. Hence the total rankings will surely be GT impacted a lot but also have other scorings.
First the April rankings. Obviously the biggest impact from the Giro and hence the top scorers are the teams who performed excellent there.
The other big races in this month were the Tour of Calufornia and the Amstel Gold Race.
First race surely a bit of a bummer for many teams, who expected to perform better. Top scorer was Tinkoff with race winner Trofimov who was perfectly suited in this allrounder event. RBC around Phinney though came really close and also Orange, I-Gen, Puma or eBuddy did very well there.
Amstel Gold as start of the hilly classics had Gazelle as top scorer due to their depth. Kenya with race winner Ponzi though also did very well while hte gap to Tinkoff as 3rd is a bit bigger already.
For the whole month Metinvest takes the glory which wasn`t hard as their Giro scoring was even higher than Gazelle`s total month as runner-up.
April:
| 1 |  | Metinvest-Dacia | 1522 | | 2 |  | Gazelle | 1280 | | 3 |  | eBuddy | 1267 | | 4 |  | Team Puma - SAP | 1227 | | 5 |  | Red Bull - Huawei | 1130 | | 6 |  | Evonik - ELKO | 1113 | | 7 |  | Bpost - Vlaanderen | 1110 | | 8 |  | Becherovka - Petrof | 1077 | | 9 |  | Tinkoff Sport Academy | 1055 | | 10 |  | Aker - MOT | 908 |
The May had the highest score of the year in a single race with eBuddy dominating the Vuelta. And yet again Metinvest performed hugely there even though Pluchkin couldn`t win the 4th GT in a row.
With LBL another monument offered big points and Bpost took the surprising win there and hence scored the best with I-Gen and Bouygues following.
Fleche Wallone with Kelderman winning also sees Puma in the top spot while Bewley dominated once more in a cobbled classic in Strada Appa Antica. What would be Becherovka without their Kiwi leader? To be fair their other riders performed nicely in the Vuelta and hence make it a great month for the team.
Dunkerque offered quite a lot of points this time in a HC race with both RBC Cycling and Evonik passing the 100 point line. Also Orange and Jayco`z can`t be unhappy there getting important points in the fight against relegation.
May:
| 1 | | eBuddy | 1808 | | 2 | | Metinvest-Dacia | 1318 | | 3 | | Becherovka - Petrof | 1187 | | 4 |  | Team I-Gen - Festina | 1061 | | 5 |  | Movistar - US Postal | 1013 | | 6 | | Aker - MOT | 1009 | | 7 | | Bpost - Vlaanderen | 925 | | 8 | | Evonik - ELKO | 908 | | 9 |  | Pendleton's | 894 | | 10 |  | Bouygues Telecom | 824 |
Coming to the total ranking now (without Czech Republic!). Becherovka always have a huge spring due to teh amount of cobbled races for Bewley. They also score decently in the hills with Sagan and now after 2 GTs also had success there with Velits and yet again Sagan. They are the obvious leader right now and the question is if they are stoppable?
The gap to the next though might be smaller than some had thought. It`s just 337 points for Evonik, who are still going strong which is impressive for a team that was still CT division just 2 years ago.
eBuddy after their Vuelta campagne most likely are on the safe side as well and can now even attack the top5 area for the final season ranking!
And also just in that area Metinvest, who needed Pluchkin to perform to leave the relegation zone and reached that in style. AKER the last team, who climbed above the 4000 mark already and looking comfortable right now.
Quite interesting that with Puma, Bpost and Aegon 3 other promoted teams are in the upper part of the table while some veteran teams have problems this season.
I-Gen and Vesuvio still a bit lower right now as they usually rank but the Tour de France will most likely be the key for those two teams. That said the success from Lecuisinier in the Vuelta clearly helped I-Gen to already be in the upper half while Vesuvio really struggled so far and might already out of reach for the podium. Just like Pokerstars the biggest drop in this period.
Orange, Bouyuges as veteran teams on the relegation zone and surely need to find better results soon to avoid the step down. RBC, Grieg and Kenya struggle a lot as promoted teams and it will be a long fight for those.
| 1 | 1 | | Becherovka - Petrof | 4774 | | 2 | 3 | | Evonik - ELKO | 4437 | | 3 | 21 | | eBuddy | 4291 | | 4 | 18 | | Metinvest-Dacia | 4228 | | 5 | 2 | | Aker - MOT | 4146 | | 6 | 5 | | Team Puma - SAP | 3889 | | 7 | 6 | | Team I-Gen - Festina | 3530 | | 8 | 11 | | Tinkoff Sport Academy | 3472 | | 9 | 17 | | Bpost - Vlaanderen | 3444 | | 10 | 7 | | Movistar - US Postal | 3371 | | 11 | 4 |  | Aegon - Lavazza | 3369 | | 12 | 14 | | Pendleton's | 3310 | | 13 | 12 | | Gazelle | 3240 | | 14 | 10 |  | Jayco'z Cycling Project | 3110 | | 15 | 13 | | Red Bull - Huawei | 3090 | | 16 | 9 |  | Vesuvio - Accumalux | 2878 | | 17 | 8 |  | Pokerstars.com | 2724 | | 18 | 16 |  | Orange - KLM Cycling | 2720 | | 19 | 15 | | Bouygues Telecom | 2700 | | 20 | 19 |  | RBC Pro Cycling | 2617 | | 21 | 20 |  | Grieg - Eftel | 2610 | | 22 | 22 |  | Kenya Airways - Dimension Data | 2137 |
The two GT winners lead the individual rankings. Not a huge surprise. They are also the only riders yet to pass the 2000 point mark. Pluchkin though has ended his season already and hence could still be passed as Gesink and also Bewley are not far behind.
Trofimov as alrounder always high in that list while Van Garderen had a huge Vuelta and deserves that spot.
Van Avermaet helping Evonik to remain in the top area as their best scorer while Degenkolb can proudly name himself the best pure sprinter in 2016 passing Swift easily.
Alarcon as best pure climber maybe? He showed it in the Giro but had bad luck in the Vuelta. Still quite a good scoring for him in this season.
| 1 | 529 | Aleksandr Pluchkin | MOL | | Metinvest-Dacia | 2145 | | 2 | 23 | Robert Gesink | NED | | eBuddy | 2023 | | 3 | 1 | Sam Bewley | NZL | | Becherovka - Petrof | 1990 | | 4 | 3 | Yuri Trofimov | RUS | | Tinkoff Sport Academy | 1706 | | 5 | 7 | Tejay Van Garderen | USA | | Movistar - US Postal | 1234 | | 6 | 8 | Greg Van Avermaet | BEL | | Evonik - ELKO | 1084 | | 7 | 2 | John Degenkolb | GER | | Pokerstars.com | 1032 | | 8 | 531 | Jose Alarcon | VEN | | Red Bull - Huawei | 1024 | | 9 | 13 | Michael Van Stayen | BEL | | Evonik - ELKO | 973 | | 10 | 4 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | NOR | | Aker - MOT | 943 | | 11 | 6 | Jan Bakelants | BEL | | Bouygues Telecom | 906 | | 12 | 26 | Vincenzo Nibali | ITA | | Pendleton's | 868 | | 13 | 15 | Toms Skujins | LAT | | Evonik - ELKO | 860 | | 14 | 27 | Wilco Kelderman | NED | | Team Puma - SAP | 755 | | 15 | 14 | Francesco Ginanni | ITA | | Gazelle | 745 | | 16 | 48 | Angel Madrazo | ESP | | Gazelle | 743 | | 17 | 21 | Simone Ponzi | ITA | | Kenya Airways - Dimension Data | 710 | | 18 | 11 | Jack Bobridge | AUS | | Jayco'z Cycling Project | 705 | | 19 | 18 | Jacopo Guarnieri | ITA | | Grieg - Eftel | 695 | | 20 | 9 | Mark Cavendish | GBR | | Red Bull - Huawei | 694 | | 21 | 5 | Ben Swift | GBR | | Aegon - Lavazza | 684 | | 22 | 35 | Clement Koretzky | FRA | | Team I-Gen - Festina | 684 | | 23 | 20 | Marcus Burghardt | GER | | Jayco'z Cycling Project | 664 | | 24 | 30 | Alexey Lutsenko | KAZ | | Pendleton's | 663 | | 25 | 29 | Florian Senechal | FRA | | Pendleton's | 631 | | 26 | 31 | Adam Blythe | GBR | | Team Puma - SAP | 593 | | 27 | 36 | Taylor Phinney | USA | | RBC Pro Cycling | 588 | | 28 | 65 | Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier | FRA | | Team I-Gen - Festina | 587 | | 29 | 517 | Rasmus Guldhammer | DEN | | Aker - MOT | 584 | | 30 | 79 | Peter Velits | SVK | | Becherovka - Petrof | 581 | | 31 | 45 | Peter Sagan | SVK | | Becherovka - Petrof | 577 | | 32 | 12 | Alexander Kristoff | NOR | | Aker - MOT | 525 | | 33 | 16 | Peter Kennaugh | GBR | | Orange - KLM Cycling | 500 | | 34 | 43 | Pieter Vanspeybrouck | BEL | | Bpost - Vlaanderen | 494 | | 35 | 10 | Andy Schleck | LUX | | Vesuvio - Accumalux | 470 | | 36 | 72 | Matteo Trentin | ITA | | Grieg - Eftel | 465 | | 37 | 40 | Sep Vanmarcke | BEL | | Vesuvio - Accumalux | 459 | | 38 | 492 | Daan Olivier | NED | | Aegon - Lavazza | 454 | | 39 | 41 | Romain Sicard | FRA | | Orange - KLM Cycling | 436 | | 40 | 83 | Sondre Holst Enger | NOR | | Aker - MOT | 429 | | 41 | 482 | Sergio Luis Henao Montoya | COL | | eBuddy | 427 | | 42 | 25 | Ben Gastauer | LUX | | Vesuvio - Accumalux | 404 | | 43 | 19 | Sean De Bie | BEL | | Aegon - Lavazza | 392 | | 44 | 17 | Eduard Grosu | ROM | | Metinvest-Dacia | 366 | | 45 | 395 | Tim Wellens | BEL | | Bpost - Vlaanderen | 364 | | 46 | 87 | Jurgen Roelandts | BEL | | Bouygues Telecom | 355 | | 47 | 39 | Steven Kruijswijk | NED | | BPost - Vlaanderen | 347 | | 48 | 85 | Arnaud Demare | FRA | | Team Puma - SAP | 333 | | 49 | 129 | Leigh Howard | AUS | | Becherovka - Petrof | 323 | | 50 | 71 | Simon Spilak | SLO | | Team I-Gen - Festina | 313 |
Edited by roturn on 15-11-2016 10:48
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 14-11-2016 10:43
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Grieg doing a good job so far being still in contension, nice to see 
In other terms: Go Becherovka! Also fantastic to see Evonik up there and teams like Aegon up
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 14-11-2016 10:54
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This is probably going to be our best season in terms of team rankings so far (2 times 9th in the first two seasons in the PT).
And Pluchkin's lead in the individual rankings is safe as far as Gesink being a threat since Bobby has also finished his season.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-11-2016 11:40
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We have made an expected surge forward after two successful GTs, but to be honest i have expected us to be 1st or 2nd in our former plans, at this time of the season. But that is rather caused by bad results in early season, because Pluchkin did what he should with scoring 2000+ points.
Our goal is to finish in top10 now, so we need few more good races and especially some surprise or breakaway luck, we had nothing like that this year, we rarely join the good breaks...
eBuddy with massive move forward too, classy two months for the team indeed, so far the biggest surprise for me this year...well maybe 2nd biggest surprise, because Evonik second even after two GTs is just...wow.
Vesuvio is not good so far, i think they will finish outside of top5 in the end, which is not usual. Pokerstars are in even worse mud now...
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-11-2016 11:44
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7th at this point is easily good enough while Spilak having almost all his racedays left, and Coppel having a couple of (potentially) good races left.
Top 5 is achievable, and I Think we will be able to reach that, but to reach our top 3 goal we need to bag around 2000 points in the Tour de France, but seeing how the first two Grand Tours went, that is highly unrealistic.
My young riders that only just maxed, like Lecuisinier, Koretzky and David are landing a fair amount of points, which is good.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 14-11-2016 12:03
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If Spilak can do a Gesink in the Tour, I think you could score up to 2000 points.
You just need a team strong enough to chase down the breakaways 
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 14-11-2016 12:15
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Thanks for the update roturn, happy to see Tinkoff in the top-10 already with many Kritskiy/Trofimov races to go!
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-11-2016 12:46
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alexkr00 wrote:
If Spilak can do a Gesink in the Tour, I think you could score up to 2000 points.
You just need a team strong enough to chase down the breakaways
I guess the competition is more fierce with Schleck and Phinney, and there's not quite enough hills to kill them. Hopefully there are not as many puncheurs as the Tour though.
We have the strongest possible team there around him, though. Coppel and some TTerss for the glat and Lecuisinier, Vasyliv and Novak for the mountains. So hopefully (but not likely) we can have two guys in the top 10, 2nd in the U25 (I guess Dombrowski will be there), and win the team competition.
Should be a good race - and everything have been gambled - but it could be mediocre if Schleck and Phinney takes the lead, which is likely.
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| tastasol |
Posted on 14-11-2016 13:33
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Thanks for the update, roturn, still not last 
The Tour de France will probably be a disaster, but the fall could bring some joy. A little shame that our Vuelta was so poor, could have been in a safe spot if not.
Also, unless I've forgot something, I don't understand how Truls Engen Korsaeth have managed to get top 100 in the ranking.
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| knockout |
Posted on 14-11-2016 17:58
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Thanks roturn, much much appreciated!!!
First of all, the most important fact : we have scored more than it was needed to survive last season which was the big target pre-transfers so I lilely will be in WT for another year :
Then, it's incredible to be 2nd in the ranking. My 3 leaders have matched the expectations in nearly all races and thus, all 3 of them are in the top twenty in individual rankings. What I especially enjoy is how no team owns a better 2nd point scorer as Van Stayen and no team owns a better 3rd point scorer as Skujins. This reliance on trusted top leaders has been the plan throughout all the divisions and so far worked perfectly. The downside of this (a.k.a. "the depth" ) is that I don't have any other rider in the double digit places and is best symbolized by 73 Hi loanee Philipp Lindau being the next best scorer.
But don't worry too much about my team. The fall will still come. In May I could still save the month with the classics. But the next month will be the worst. I have absolutely nobody for the TDF and only Van Stayen at the Suisse / Dauphine doubleheader which doesn't really suit him too much. Also none of my three leaders has more than 3 races left and I have more races without one of them on the remaining schedule than races with one of them. And all of them have non-ideal races left while some ideal combinations like Skujins to Deutschland were not possible due to RDs issues. Add to that races like the TTT, Liechtenstein and Colombia where I'm chanceless by definition...
So trust me, I'm gonna fall down a bit. It will happen 
Becherovka looks real strong at the top. Having such a leader in Bewley just be awesome
eBuddy @ 3rd is imo the biggest surprise. Huge points by Gesink but also April was a great month for them. Impressive for a team that I saw near the relegation spots 
Some of the other promoted teams also in the upper half. Especially Puma looks as if they can finish very high and I would not be surprised if they take the glory as best promoted team.
And how close is the battle between 16. And 21. Red Bull also looks in danger after the disappointment of the TDF.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 14-11-2016 17:59
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Rolling around doing nothing worthy of any mention but happy to be comfortably clear of relegation for now, hoping for a good tour from Dombo and then some more points here and there.
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-11-2016 18:08
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tastasol wrote:
Thanks for the update, roturn, still not last
The Tour de France will probably be a disaster, but the fall could bring some joy. A little shame that our Vuelta was so poor, could have been in a safe spot if not.
Also, unless I've forgot something, I don't understand how Truls Engen Korsaeth have managed to get top 100 in the ranking.
The total team points were correct. But apparently the formula for the individual rankings was a bit wrong for LBL where he got his position as points instead of the real points.
As he was one of the last, it explains the ~200 points.
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| ember |
Posted on 14-11-2016 18:36
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Thank you for the update, roturn!
At this point, I can't avoid thinking what this could have been if EBH performed according to his stats, especially in the Ardennes Suspect that failure could be key at the end of the season for a top 5 position. Luckily our goal is a top 10, which means it's still kind of okay.
Becherovka looks like the favourite now, especially if Bewley can dominate the sprints in the Tour, then it will be difficult for the GC teams there to get close, and Velits, Sagan and even Howard all have the potential to score decent in races where Bewley isn't in, like they've done so far this season. I-Gen - Festina could challenge though if Spilak claims Tour victory along with some stage success. At this point, they look like the only realistic challenger to Becherovka, and they're still more than 1000 points behind at this point!
Looking at the bottom teams, it looks like the Tour will be very decisive, assuming Taaramäe and Sicard go there, in addition to Phinney. They could secure their teams, but one step wrong and it suddenly looks very difficult.
Cool to see Grieg-Eftel still have some kind of contact with the other teams, eventhough it looks like both them and Kenya Airways have no way back, unfortunately. |
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Posted on 14-11-2016 18:58
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Thanks for the update roturn!
After two miserable months, our free fall must have come. How many teams are going to relegate by "standart way"?
Becherovka looks like the favourite now, especially if Bewley can dominate the sprints in the Tour
Hopefully he won´t. I expect very hard sprint competition there.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 14-11-2016 19:33
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After two miserable months, our free fall must have come. How many teams are going to relegate by "standart way"?
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 14-11-2016 20:03
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With a 13th spot it might look like we're still on track to comfortably avoid relegation. But we have much of our biggest scoring potential behind us, while some of the teams chasing us have most of it in the future. I'm slightly worried this 500 point gap to the relegation zone might gradually erode.
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 14-11-2016 20:16
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Horrible. Just waiting for this season to end now, what a disaster of a year.
Amazing to see Evonik so high, knockout really is a fantastic manager. No surprise to see Becherovka with them. Thanks for the update. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 14-11-2016 20:23
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Whoop whoop knockout in the zone right now, keeping himself still up there after two GTs is nothing short of amazing. Same goes for Bechevorka ofc but they have auto-win Bewley, which makes it far less surprising.
Vesuvio quite a bit down. World Champion Schleck needs a brilliant tour to jumpstar them again. 
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 14-11-2016 20:44
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Actually an okay placing at the moment for the team thought we would be further behind though Phinney needs a great Tour now for us to be safe after it but not bad at all so far |
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| SotD |
Posted on 15-11-2016 10:44
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Something is wrong with my riders points aswell:
| Name | 2016 points | | Simon Spilak | 189 | | Jerome Coppel | 271 | | Georgos Tzortzakis | 245 | | Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier | 587 | | Clement Koretzky | 614 | | Tom David | 371 | | Yuriy Vasyliv | 163 | | Charalampas Kastrantas | 207 | | Markus Eibegger | 121 | | Panagiotis Vlatos | 268 | | Piter Campero | 110 | | Mathieu Bernaudeau | 55 | | Bryan Coquard | 126 | | Olivier Le Gac | 237 | | Jakub Novak | 70 | | Andreas Hofer | 63 | | Nejc Kosic | 50 | | Grzegorz Stepniak | 48 | | Maxime Bouet | 40 | | Pavel Potocki | 34 | | Marco Haller | 33 | | 3902 |
My guess is that something went wrong with Le Gac and Kastrantas. The difference is 372 points - The total of my points (the team) add up to my own calculation +/- a few points, like the rest of the teams (apart from 3 that differs at 100+ points). So I suspect they have gotten 372 points too many in the individual rankings. Dividing the figure both lose 186 points meaning that they will have:
| Olivier Le Gac | 51 | | Charalampas Kastrantas | 21 |
Those figures are probably not correct either, but much closer to the reality. Le Gac haven't ridden that many races, but did reasonably well, so should have scored a bit of points while I suspect Kastrantas having only scored points for finishing races (which should be more than 21 btw).
Also Alexis Gougeard aren't there, while he should have a few points also. So something definately seems off with the metrics.
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