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PT Rankings Update #6
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Two big PT stage races have now been finished, the Vuelta a Colombia and the Tour of Northern Europe. And the close battles are continuing!
First up, a corrections notice. I've compared the formulated scores of races against SotD's manually calculated Festina scores, which identified a few formula errors that have now been corrected:
Overscoring on Stage 3, Tour of California
Underscoring on Stage 6 and Stage 17, Vuelta a Espana
Slight overscoring for GC positions 100+, Vuelta a Espana and Giro d'Italia
Now, onto the new scores.
Let's start at the top, and wow, what a month for Festina. 600 points or so off the lead on the last update, plus the California correction hit them harder than others, but a huge response. First Tom David picks up 14th overall at Baltic Chain Tour, leading them to a handy HC haul of 81 points. Then Simon Spilak takes the win at Vuelta a Colombia, with a team score of 559 points. Then it is back to Tom David with a 7th overall at TONE, following a TTT win, for a team tally of 351. And now Festina have stormed right into the lead!
Vesuvio do remain close, with a gap of 78 points to make up. All eyes turn to Liechtenstein then, for a huge duel between Andy Schleck and Spilak. Becherovka drop to 3rd, but still less than 250 points from the lead - the 3 way battle continues.
No further positional changes in the rest of the Top 9. The big movers are Good Energy and Pokerstars who really close the gap to the teams just above them - particularly important for Good Energy in fighting Aker for 5th place. Metinvest hold 4th, and extend their gap to Aker slightly, although the Norwegians had a great score in the HC Volta a Portugal. Tinkoff will still hope to get involved in that Top 5 fight too.
In 9th are Bouygues Telecom, moving slightly clear of the big scrap for 10th. Victory in TONE for Cancellara is enough to put Red Bull - Huawei into that 10th place, while Project 1t4i are left to rue Van der Velde's misfortune, but did enjoy a good score in the Baltic. Pendleton's look increasingly good to defy all expectations and avoid relegation, this time in TONE more on merit rather than breakaways.
Oz had a good TONE too, to make up for a poor Colombia, although they do drop a place. Quickstep are up 2 to 14th, enjoying a Madrazo points scoring performance in Colombia. Previous 10th place side Venchi slip all the way to 15th. Their manager may be gone, but promotion battling PCT teams will be cheering them on since if they can finish Top 17 then that is a guaranteed extra promotion spot. They are just 8 points clear of Orange now.
A gap does seem to have emerged from 16th to 17th now - almost 400 points. This could mean that the remaining teams are fighting for just 1 position of safety. And what a fight that looks set to be! Bacardi hold the position for now, but are only 19 points ahead of VolksWagen - who are in this fight once again, just like last year. Movistar are only 83 behind Bacardi. Swisscom are clinging on to the battle, a few hundred points down, but really needed Schumacher to have kicked on in the TONE hills and challenged for GC victory.
In what looks to be the battle to avoid the wooden spoon, Ayubowan have enjoyed a better month and move ahead of Meiji, although there is only 18 points in it.
| | | | | Port | Balt | Col | TONE | | 1 | 3 |  | Festina-Canal+ | 6925 | 0 | 81 | 559 | 351 | | 2 | 1 |  | Vesuvio - Accumalux | 6847 | 0 | 0 | 77 | 208 | | 3 | 2 |  | Becherovka - Petrof | 6688 | 0 | 0 | 190 | 96 | | 4 | 4 |  | Metinvest-Dacia | 5983 | 33 | 0 | 82 | 182 | | 5 | 5 |  | Aker - MOT | 5798 | 190 | 0 | 174 | 59 | | 6 | 6 |  | Good Energy | 5741 | 0 | 0 | 53 | 387 | | 7 | 7 |  | Tinkoff Bank - Tinkoff Insurance | 5532 | 0 | 0 | 97 | 160 | | 8 | 8 |  | Pokerstars.com | 5442 | 0 | 0 | 223 | 278 | | 9 | 9 |  | Bouygues Telecom | 5144 | 0 | 0 | 311 | 135 | | 10 | 13 |  | Red Bull - Huawei | 4927 | 31 | 0 | 202 | 432 | | 11 | 11 |  | Project 1t4i | 4753 | 0 | 105 | 171 | 150 | | 12 | 14 |  | Pendleton's | 4718 | 0 | 0 | 142 | 291 | | 13 | 12 |  | Oz Cycling Project | 4631 | 0 | 0 | 70 | 325 | | 14 | 16 |  | Quickstep | 4519 | 0 | 0 | 385 | 146 | | 15 | 10 |  | Venchi | 4414 | 0 | 0 | 23 | 71 | | 16 | 15 |  | Orange - KLM | 4406 | 0 | 0 | 172 | 76 | | 17 | 17 |  | Bacardi Limited | 4009 | 0 | 5 | 170 | 68 | | 18 | 18 |  | VolksWagen - Andritz | 3990 | 0 | 0 | 120 | 116 | | 19 | 19 |  | Movistar - US Postal | 3926 | 0 | 24 | 174 | 131 | | 20 | 20 |  | Swisscom - UBS | 3654 | 0 | 0 | 87 | 219 | | 21 | 22 |  | Ayubowan! | 3296 | 0 | 0 | 103 | 57 | | 22 | 21 |  | Meiji - JR East | 3278 | 0 | 0 | 47 | 49 |
In the Individual Rankings, Pluchkin has benefited from some Vuelta corrections to close the gap on Bewley, but it will not be enough. Spilak climbs up to 3rd on the back of his Colombia win, while Madrazo is up 7 to 8th. Cancellara's win sees him up to 14th position, while teammate Alarcon enters the Top 20.
Guarnieri's wins lift him to 32nd, while Visconti is now in an unexpectedly high 38th. On the back of his debut PT win, Roman Maksimov gains 83 positions and is now 103nd, while Tom David gained over 100 positions to move into 106th. The biggest jump is for Bjørn Tore Hoem after his Portugese performances lift him 182 spots to 203rd, the next biggest being Piter Campero climbing 160 to 249th.
| 1 | 1 | Sam Bewley | NZL | | Becherovka - Petrof | 2898 | | 2 | 2 | Aleksandr Pluchkin | MOL | | Metinvest-Dacia | 2844 | | 3 | 4 | Simon Spilak | SLO | | Festina-Canal+ | 2089 | | 4 | 5 | Rein Taaramäe | EST | | Bouygues Telecom | 1856 | | 5 | 3 | Ben Swift | GBR | | Vesuvio - Accumalux | 1660 | | 6 | 6 | Simone Ponzi | ITA | | Good Energy | 1500 | | 7 | 7 | Yuri Trofimov | RUS | | Tinkoff Bank - Tinkoff Insurance | 1413 | | 8 | 15 | Angel Madrazo | ESP | | Quickstep | 1397 | | 9 | 8 | Andy Schleck | LUX | | Vesuvio - Accumalux | 1364 | | 10 | 9 | Damiano Cunego | ITA | | Meiji - JR East | 1312 | | 11 | 11 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | NOR | | Aker - MOT | 1237 | | 12 | 10 | Taylor Phinney | USA | | Venchi | 1228 | | 13 | 14 | Justo Tenorio | ESP | | Bacardi Limited | 1167 | | 14 | 21 | Fabian Cancellara | SWI | | Red Bull - Huawei | 1156 | | 15 | 12 | Robert Gesink | NED | | Project 1t4i | 1149 | | 16 | 13 | Riccardo Ricco | ITA | | Festina-Canal+ | 1124 | | 17 | 17 | Andrei Amador | CRC | | Swisscom - UBS | 1064 | | 18 | 20 | Daniel Martin | IRL | | Aker - MOT | 1022 | | 19 | 16 | Tejay Van Garderen | USA | | Movistar - US Postal | 1009 | | 20 | 24 | Jose Alarcon | VEN | | Red Bull - Huawei | 985 | | 21 | 18 | Jan Bakelants | BEL | | Bouygues Telecom | 983 | | 22 | 19 | Michael Van Stayen | BEL | | Venchi | 971 | | 23 | 23 | Mikhail Ignatiev | RUS | | Metinvest-Dacia | 889 | | 24 | 27 | Thomas Dekker | NED | | Orange - KLM | 882 | | 25 | 26 | Ben Gastauer | LUX | | Vesuvio - Accumalux | 821 | | 26 | 25 | John Degenkolb | GER | | Pokerstars.com | 816 | | 27 | 22 | Alexander Kristoff | NOR | | Aker - MOT | 790 | | 28 | 29 | Romain Sicard | FRA | | Orange - KLM | 730 | | 29 | 31 | Marcus Burghardt | GER | | Oz Cycling Project | 705 | | 30 | 28 | Toms Skujins | LAT | | Red Bull - Huawei | 697 | | 31 | 30 | Paolo Scarponi | SMR | | Good Energy | 683 | | 32 | 50 | Jacopo Guarnieri | ITA | | Good Energy | 664 | | 33 | 36 | Francesco Ginanni | ITA | | Pokerstars.com | 638 | | 34 | 32 | Rasmus Guldhammer | DEN | | Aker - MOT | 632 | | 35 | 42 | Roger Kluge | GER | | Pokerstars.com | 629 | | 36 | 34 | Peter Kennaugh | GBR | | Orange - KLM | 626 | | 37 | 35 | Erik Mohs | GER | | Pokerstars.com | 624 | | 38 | 51 | Giovanni Visconti | ITA | | Oz Cycling Project | 623 | | 39 | 33 | Peter Sagan | SVK | | Becherovka - Petrof | 620 | | 40 | 44 | Vladimir Gusev | RUS | | Tinkoff Bank - Tinkoff Insurance | 609 | | 41 | 54 | Joseph Dombrowski | USA | | Pendleton's | 590 | | 42 | 47 | Jerome Coppel | FRA | | Festina-Canal+ | 589 | | 43 | 40 | Dan Holloway | USA | | Red Bull - Huawei | 588 | | 44 | 37 | Konstantin Siutsou | BLR | | Pendleton's | 585 | | 45 | 45 | Timofey Kritskiy | RUS | | Tinkoff Bank - Tinkoff Insurance | 575 | | 46 | 49 | Thomas Faiers | GBR | | Pokerstars.com | 569 | | 47 | 70 | Philippe Gilbert | BEL | | Pendleton's | 561 | | 48 | 38 | Diego Ulissi | ITA | | Bacardi Limited | 557 | | 49 | 39 | Alejandro Valverde | ESP | | Pendleton's | 550 | | 50 | 46 | Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier | FRA | | Festina-Canal+ | 542 |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 31-10-2015 23:52
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Not surprised. The team is horrible (apart from Cunego) at the PT level and the fact we have a rider in the Top 10 and are still last only strengthens that argument.
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Posted on 01-11-2015 00:05
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It has been a great past three races for us indeed, just when we expected to be out of contention, we are right back into it.
And it is really going to be thrilling. The GP Liecthenstein may well decide which of Vesuvio and Festina could be ending over one another.
I do still think that Vesuvio will have the strongest pointscoring setup for the final 5 races, as they can potentially win all races - Perhaps deducting the TTT. But I assume they are lining up the top hilly men for Lombardia - And perhaps Tasmania aswell, Schleck for the Liechtenstein race and Swift for Praha...
Becherovka will struggle in Liechtenstein with Velits probably fighting for anything between 7th and 12th. Praha is obvious for Bewley though, their TTT setup is probably the strongest of the three, and if Sagan delivers another strong result in Lombardia they could be well in the fight aswell...
Just one small mistake from any of the three teams, and they could end up 3rd instead of 1st. So exciting to follow - And be a part of!
Btw: Do any of the top 3 teams have any HC races left? I know Festina doesn't.
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 01-11-2015 00:06
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There is still hope! Have to find a way to get enough points in the next three races to stay near Bacardi and Volkswagen. Then put everything on the back of TVG and hope he can carry us across the finish line at Tasmania and Lombardia.
Relegation isn't the end of the world, I mean seeing TVG tear up the PCT would be fun to watch, but obviously the PT is where everyone wants to be at.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 01-11-2015 00:16
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It's about time Festina won PT, and probably Becherovka too, so no complaints from me if they do manage it - but looking at my remaining lineups, I'm not making it easy for them!
 Rheden | Schlechter | | |  Liechtenstein | A Schleck | Suaza | |   TTT | Kittel | Jungels | |  Emelia | Paterski | | |  Praha | Swift | Gastauer | |  Tasmania | Gastauer | Kittel | Van der Lijke | | Lombardia | Gastauer | F Schleck | A Schleck |
My best race left should be Liechtenstein, so the Spilak duel should be fun. My TTTs have been alright this year but would be surprised to Top 5 it, Swift never really shines in one-day races. Gastauer will probably be quiet there, but has had good stage race form which he will need in Tasmania. Then all my stars are out for Lombardia, the only joint-Schleck race of the season.
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Posted on 01-11-2015 01:35
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Hmm, only a miracle would help me now to achieve something better than a 3rd place. Even if Bewley is able to win P-KV-P, Velits overachieve in Liechtenstein, Sergent having a day of his career in Tasmania's TT and Sagan do a Sagan in Lombardia, no HC races left. Even if my team would overachieve a lot the chances that my team can beat Vesuvio or Festina are slim. Still hopefully my team will give it a nice fight and I am absolutely delighted I am now almost sure to accomplish my hard top 3 goal.
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 01-11-2015 06:35
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Very important score in TONE! Two big goals still ahead: the TTT and avoid relegation. Both is doable, so we just need to avoid total disasters! Tasmania probably will be a failure from Bobridge, but hey, maybe he proves me wrong..
Thanks for the update!
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| Smowz |
Posted on 01-11-2015 06:49
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Red Bull prospects
I guess the first thing that is a relief is that relegation now looks impossible for Red Bull, Top 10 looks hopeful settling in alongside alex's team a mid table fodder. Really musing where to go with squad. We are going to have a big Cancellara shaped hole in the team next year. Welcome to see Alarcon and Cancellara going well on the individual. Last year they were both a bit better but both have still delivered.
Title fight
Great to see a tight battle between Ves and Fes - with Bewley's Bech's bleating their well trained outfit into 3rd. I still have that feeling that Ves will slither their way to the title with the Schlecks and Swifty.
Metinvest continue the Plushy push
Pluchkin may not win the individual ranking but he has propelled the unheralded new team Metinvest towards a superb top 5 teams position. They are being hunted by the more seasoned Aker and Good Energy teams who will probably finish the season stronger.
Relegation
Venchi have hardly been active in the last couple of years - this year has been the death knell. Already I am vulturing over their ashes  But bar the hammered out disbandments - Jim Bowen and Meiji are sadly well below quality. UBS just have not got going either - Amador could be tough to hold onto I guess.
Going to be a hard relegation fight between VW, Movistar and Bacardi. Hard to predict also who will survive. I thought VW may be a bit better this year, but if had to put money on someone it would be TvG's Movistar.
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| roturn |
Posted on 01-11-2015 07:05
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Close relegation fight. Volkswagen has won the fight last year and I thought they would do better. Experience down there might help but I fear Mre is going to survive.
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Posted on 01-11-2015 07:05
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Ouch! Top lineups, and also two HC races. It will be very difficult to keep you behind. Liechtenstein will be key. If Spilak wins it, and Andy slightly underperforms, then there might be a chance. My final setup:
Liechtenstein: Spilak, Lecuisinier
TTT: Coppel, Vlatos, Paillot, Bernaudeau, Lecuisinier
Praha: Tzortzakis, Coquard, Coppel, Pichon
Tasmania: Tzortzakis, Coppel, Pichon
Lombardia: Ricco, Koretzky, Pichon, Coppel
I need to overperform in the TTT and Praha, and then I dont really know what to expect from Tasmania. I hope it is well suited for Coppel, and that Tzortzakis can take a stage top 3 on the flat. Ricco not crashing in the Lombardia this season, would also be highly appreciated
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| Heine |
Posted on 01-11-2015 07:06
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I really felt I strenghtned my team this year and would be much higher. Alas it was not meant to be. To be honest I predict I will relegate. Should be fun with riders like Claeys and Flügel in the PCT though
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| SotD |
Posted on 01-11-2015 07:07
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roturn wrote:
Close relegation fight. Volkswagen has won the fight last year and I thought they would do better. Experience down there might help but I fear Mre is going to survive.
Also interesting for PCT teams as there might be good chances for additional promotion I guess.
I really hope that both will survive and that Venchi will drop, but I guess that Praha and Tasmania are tailormade for them, so it would require ~800 points for those in the relegation spot to catch them. Orange could overtake them though...
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| SotD |
Posted on 01-11-2015 07:09
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Heine wrote:
I really felt I strenghtned my team this year and would be much higher. Alas it was not meant to be. To be honest I predict I will relegate. Should be fun with riders like Claeys and Flügel in the PCT though
Can you keep both, though? I guess you also want to keep Zabel and Zepuntke...
I have my fingers crossed for you. I really think you belong to the PT.
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| ember |
Posted on 01-11-2015 07:46
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Good to still sit fifth, but seeing Good Energy this close isn't really great, especially as there are at least two Ponzi vs. Boasson Hagen races left, and looking at the season so far, I won't get surprised if we get outscored by a lot there.
Though, on paper we've got a strong lineup in all remaining races, obviously except the TTT, but it really comes down to Boasson Hagen if we're going to make that top 5 or not, which is a sponsor goal.
And then there are also Tinkoff and Pokerstars as well. Guess nothing will be decided before Lombardia.
And no doubt the HC racing is helping us. We've also got Beijing left there, where I hope for more breakaway success 
Vesuvio looks like a slight favourite for the overall, but a win here from Spilak and another overachievement from Ricco, and it's all turned around. Should be a thrilling battle, and then there's Bewley/Becherovka chasing, and they shouldn't be far off if Bewley can deliver in Prague. |
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 01-11-2015 10:28
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Thanks for the update; Gusev above Kritskiy 
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| Heine |
Posted on 01-11-2015 10:32
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SotD wrote:
Heine wrote:
I really felt I strenghtned my team this year and would be much higher. Alas it was not meant to be. To be honest I predict I will relegate. Should be fun with riders like Claeys and Flügel in the PCT though
Can you keep both, though? I guess you also want to keep Zabel and Zepuntke...
I have my fingers crossed for you. I really think you belong to the PT.
I can keep both, but then both Denifl and Monsalve will have to go. It will all depend on how I want me relegated team to look. Monsalve deserve to stay, but Denifl would most likely fit much better as a number 2 in a team than number 1 as he is for me
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 01-11-2015 11:16
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I cannot believe how well this has gone, don't want to jinx it but it looks like we're going to make it which I guess is all down to my leadership genius and nothing to do with luck. Interesting battle at the top, right down to the wire. Thanks for the update SN.
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| SotD |
Posted on 01-11-2015 11:18
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Heine wrote:
SotD wrote:
Heine wrote:
I really felt I strenghtned my team this year and would be much higher. Alas it was not meant to be. To be honest I predict I will relegate. Should be fun with riders like Claeys and Flügel in the PCT though
Can you keep both, though? I guess you also want to keep Zabel and Zepuntke...
I have my fingers crossed for you. I really think you belong to the PT.
I can keep both, but then both Denifl and Monsalve will have to go. It will all depend on how I want me relegated team to look. Monsalve deserve to stay, but Denifl would most likely fit much better as a number 2 in a team than number 1 as he is for me
Good point. I completely forgot that those two guys were that expensive. 800K for Denifl and 650K for Monsalve is a lot really. But both are probably going down in wages, so you might be able to keep Monsalve - He is really cool btw.
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| SotD |
Posted on 01-11-2015 11:21
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
I cannot believe how well this has gone, don't want to jinx it but it looks like we're going to make it which I guess is all down to my leadership genius and nothing to do with luck. Interesting battle at the top, right down to the wire. Thanks for the update SN.
It should be impossible to relegate now. 5 races left. You will have ~8 riders finishing each race = 200 points. You have a gap of 728 points to the line and 6 teams that need to pass you. That cannot be done - Well in theory it can, but that would take some serious luck like Volkswagen winning the TTT which they clearly are not.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 01-11-2015 11:31
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Wow, it's getting close up the top!
Team of the season for me has to be Metinvest, being 4th at this stage of the season is an absolutely ridiculous achievement.
For Bouygues, we're very happy to be 9th, especially given the disappointing season Bakelants has had (you've got 2 races to redeem yourself Jan!), and if we can stay there, we'll have our best season since 2007 by some distance.
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