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Chrono d'Arenberg - Discussion
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 11-02-2021 05:37
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 Chrono d'Arenberg
Welcome to the 3rd edition of the PTHC Chrono d’Arenberg where the top cobblers meet the top timetrialists across 2 legs on 47 km of hard roads in Northern France. The first edition was won by Kasperkiewicz, a cobbler, who time trials a little, while last year it was Dillier, who is more the reverse. Dillier is back to try and defend his title for Team UBS, this time from the PT division. He wouldn’t have been able to defend that title but the race has also moved up from C1 to PTHC. In addition, for the first time, the race will be contested over 2 legs which will make it harder for riders to pull off a surprise result.
The course includes 11 sectors of cobbles covering 17.3 km - so the riders will spend 35% of their time on cobbled roads.
A full field of 24 teams will contest the race today. Looking first at the time trial focused riders the list includes:
| Rider | Team | Div | TT | CO | RS | | Mads Würtz | Grieg-Maersk | PT | 82 | 62 | 78 | | Silvan Dillier | Team UBS | PT | 80 | 68 | 77 | | Steven Lammertink | eBuddy | PT | 80 | 65 | 76 | | Kiril Yatsevich | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | PT | 80 | 64 | 81 | | Lucas Schädlich | Kraftwerk Man Machine | PCT | 80 | 62 | 71 | | Jesse Sergent | GCN Racing | PCT | 80 | 53 | 74 | | Alexandor Cataford | Podium Ambition | PCT | 79 | 67 | 75 | | Michael Hepburn | Moser - Sygic | PT | 79 | 60 | 77 | | Phan Age Haugard | Volvo acc. by Spotify | PT | 79 | 56 | 77 | | Ho-Ting Kwok | Air France - KLM | PT | 79 | 53 | 73 | | Tom Wirtgen | EA Vesuvio | PT | 78 | 65 | 74 | | Reinhardt Janse van Rensburg | Minions | PCT | 78 | 63 | 71 | | Victor Campenaerts | Volvo acc. by Spotify | PT | 78 | 62 | 73 | | Oleksandr Golovash | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | PCT | 78 | 55 | 69 | | Rasmus Sterobo | Campari Asahi Procycling | PCT | 78 | 52 | 69 | | Harry Tanfield | Volvo acc. by Spotify | PT | 77 | 64 | 73 | | Szymon Rekita | Minions | PCT | 77 | 62 | 71 | | Mark Christian | Campari Asahi Procycling | PCT | 77 | 59 | 71 | | Klemen Stimulak | Fablok - Chocolate Jacques | PCT | 77 | 57 | 72 | | Krzysztof Marchewka | Adastra N Hell Energy Cycling | PCT | 77 | 50 | 75 |
 Würtz is clearly the best of the pure TT guys but his cobbles are weak. Defending champion  Dillier stands out as one of the 5, 80 TT riders but also as one of the only riders on the list with a respectable cobbles ability. He also has strong resistance. The only other TT rider who is OK on the cobbles is  Cataford
So that brings us to the cobbles focused riders. Other than Dillier most of the top finishers last year were cobblers more than TT riders. And at the lower level the quality of cobbler riders wasn’t close to what we see this year.
| Rider | Team | Div | TT | CO | RS | | Lukasz Wisniowski | Grieg-Maersk | PT | 74 | 83 | 76 | | Sam Bewley | Moser - Sygic | PT | 70 | 82 | 75 | | Florian Senechal | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | PT | 65 | 82 | 74 | | Arman Kamyshev | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | PT | 65 | 82 | 75 | | Marcos Altur | Podium Ambition | PCT | 63 | 82 | 70 | | Ruben Zepuntke | Minions | PCT | 65 | 81 | 72 | | Floris Gerts | eBuddy | PT | 67 | 80 | 80 | | Amadou Bakari | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | PCT | 52 | 80 | 53 | | David Per | Isostar - Specialized | PT | 72 | 79 | 75 | | Jan Polanc | Isostar - Specialized | PT | 70 | 78 | 73 | | Vegard Breen | Bakkafrost | PCT | 68 | 78 | 72 | | Salvatore Puccio | Air France - KLM | PT | 61 | 78 | 71 | | Guillaume Van Keirsbulck | Nordstrom - CA Technologies | PCT | 51 | 78 | 73 | | Tom Bohli | Team UBS | PT | 70 | 77 | 75 | | Tim Declerq | Team Puma - SAP | PT | 68 | 77 | 71 | | Saya Kuroeda | Rakuten Pro Cycling | PT | 67 | 77 | 73 | | Michael Boros | Moser - Sygic | PT | 62 | 77 | 69 |
Road Race World Champion Wisniowski won’t get to wear his jersey but he will be one of the favorites for this race. He is not only the best cobbler on the start list but also the best time trial rider among the cobblers. Man game superstar  Bewley and Isostar’s duo of  Per and Polanc stand out as other riders with decent TT capabilities.
While the ghost of Cancellara doesn’t seem to haunt the man game peloton there are a handful of riders who are neither a top TT or top cobble riders but do both pretty well. They include:
| Rider | Team | Div | TT | CO | RS | | Remi Cavagna | Team Puma - SAP | PT | 76 | 73 | 74 | | Andrei Nechita | Fablok - Chocolate Jacques | PCT | 76 | 71 | 71 | | Hampus Anderberg | Aker - MOT | PT | 74 | 76 | 75 | | Philipp Walsleben | Aker - MOT | PT | 74 | 74 | 73 | | Martin Schäppi | Team UBS | PT | 73 | 74 | 71 |
None of them look strong enough to challenge for the top step but they could all be a threat for the top 10 on a good day.
Full Start List
Spoiler | Marchewka, Krzysztof | Adastra N Hell Energy Cycling | | Navardauskas, Ramunas | Adastra N Hell Energy Cycling | | Stoenchev, Valentin | Adastra N Hell Energy Cycling | | Kwok, Ho-Ting | Air France - KLM | | Puccio, Salvatore | Air France - KLM | | van Zyl, Johann | Air France - KLM | | Anderberg, Hampus | Aker - MOT | | Videika, Airidas | Aker - MOT | | Walsleben, Philipp | Aker - MOT | | Akhmaevi, Sulkhan | Bakkafrost | | Breen, Vegard | Bakkafrost | | Van der Haar, Lars | Bakkafrost | | Christian, Mark | Campari Asahi Procycling | | Sterobo, Rasmus | Campari Asahi Procycling | | Yamamoto, Masaki | Campari Asahi Procycling | | Jallays, Welle | DK - SVA Zalgiris | | Nepomnyachsniy, Alexandr | DK - SVA Zalgiris | | Ovsyannikov, Alexandr | DK - SVA Zalgiris | | Centrone, Ivan | EA Vesuvio | | Kanter, Max | EA Vesuvio | | Wirtgen, Tom | EA Vesuvio | | Gerts, Floris | eBuddy | | Kaczmarek, Jakub | eBuddy | | Lammertink, Steven | eBuddy | | Nechita, Andrei | Fablok - Chocolate Jacques | | Plucinski, Leszek | Fablok - Chocolate Jacques | | Stimulak, Klemen | Fablok - Chocolate Jacques | | Archibald, John | GCN Racing | | Burke, Steven | GCN Racing | | Sergent, Jesse | GCN Racing | | Cosnefroy, Benoit | Grieg-Maersk | | Wisniowski, Lukasz | Grieg-Maersk | | Würtz, Mads | Grieg-Maersk | | Arissol, Ahmad | ISA - Hexacta | | Feng, Chun Kai | ISA - Hexacta | | Harrison, Sam | ISA - Hexacta | | Gradek, Kamil | Isostar - Specialized | | Per, David | Isostar - Specialized | | Polanc, Jan | Isostar - Specialized | | Gonzalez Cortes, Josue | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Schädlich, Lucas | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Vermeersch, Gianni | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Janse van Rensburg, Reinhardt | Minions | | Rekita, Szymon | Minions | | Zepuntke, Ruben | Minions | | Bewley, Sam | Moser - Sygic | | Boros, Michael | Moser - Sygic | | Hepburn, Michael | Moser - Sygic | | Medvedev, Sergey | Nordstrom - CA Technologies | | Okamoto, Hayato | Nordstrom - CA Technologies | | Van Keirsbulck, Guillaume | Nordstrom - CA Technologies | | Altur, Marcos | Podium Ambition | | Cataford, Alexandor | Podium Ambition | | Matthews, Darren | Podium Ambition | | Kuroeda, Saya | Rakuten Pro Cycling | | Rajapakshage, Tushantha | Rakuten Pro Cycling | | Reus, Kai | Rakuten Pro Cycling | | Bakari, Amadou | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | De Bondt, Dries | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Golovash, Oleksandr | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Cavagna, Remi | Team Puma - SAP | | Declerq, Tim | Team Puma - SAP | | Ganna, Filippo | Team Puma - SAP | | Kamyshev, Arman | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Senechal, Florian | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Yatsevich, Kiril | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Bohli, Tom | Team UBS | | Dillier, Silvan | Team UBS | | Schäppi, Martin | Team UBS | | Campenaerts, Victor | Volvo acc. by Spotify | | Haugard, Phan Age | Volvo acc. by Spotify | | Tanfield, Harry | Volvo acc. by Spotify |
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| quadsas |
Posted on 11-02-2021 08:20
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EASY win for Ovsya, not even bothered
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 11-02-2021 08:36
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I think we have a good team here, but I'm not too sure. Maybe I should've brought Phinney though, let's see how the race goes...
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 11-02-2021 09:24
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We'll see what happens. Got two horses to bet on which are both terrible in the opposite category.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 11-02-2021 10:25
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Based on AC's season so far, he'll finish outside the Top20 despite his skills. Altur i don't know, he's got previous in cobbled prologues, but this is a lot longer so i have no hopes there. Matthews is my wildcard choice who i wish was 5 years younger so i could train him into a real fun option.
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 11-02-2021 14:24
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Based on last years results where the TT guys did well and because its pan flat I sent Schädlich and burdened him with a top 5 goal! The champagne will flow if he manages to achieve that goal 
Thanks for the preview Ulrich
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| tastasol |
Posted on 11-02-2021 15:56
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We have the best TTer and the best cobbler (and a good hybrid in Cosnefroy) here, so I have to say that anything else than a victory will be disappointing. But then again, if it's most suited to a guy like Dillier, it might be tough after all. A win would be good for the confidence for Wisniowski, even though he's not in the rainbow jersey this time around. Looking forward to the race!
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 11-02-2021 16:08
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0 clue what to expect here, just praying for it isn't a 0 pointer.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 11-02-2021 18:21
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Based on last years results still favouring TT riders slightly, with 5* cobbles, Im thinking it might be even more for TT riders this year, since they aren't all 5* sectors this year. I've brought Kuroeda just in case, although he's really not that good at TTing, but Reus and Raja probably wont do that great either, but its basically the best I could do.
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 11-02-2021 20:02
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Always an exciting and unpredictable race. Hoping Dillier shows up again like he did last year.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 11-02-2021 22:50
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Certainly one of the minor races I'm most excited for this season, with Cavagna having been trained Fabian style for exactly this kind of race, besides ToNE.
No idea how this will play out on the day though.
He's already proven his maxed out worth in his glorious performances in E3 Prijs as 12th and in Strada Appia as 16th from the break, so this race that was supposed to be his best shot at a good result this season can already only be the icing on the cake.
There's a plethora of much better specialists on each end of the spectrum, but Cavagna and Anderberg lead the hybrids which can hopefully stage an upset.
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 12-02-2021 03:40
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If you haven't read the race report go read that first.
Really enjoyed reporting on the Chrono d'Arenberg. I am was skeptical going in because historically I don't think PCM handled cobbled TTs well and I am in the camp of people who don't like extreme courses like last year's WC.
But the race was a pleasant surprise. The combination of different skills and segments made for an interesting and dynamic race. Although it did make reporting hard because there was a lot of movement, hopefully the report wasn't too confusing. It also favored a group of riders that don't fit one fit the man games standard templates which is nice to see.
I plotted the time trial and cobble skills and color coded the finish ranges in the graph below. I think it really shows how you need a balance of skills.
I also calculated the blend of CO and TT that best correlated to the results and it is pretty close to the split of flat and cobles in the race.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 12-02-2021 04:15
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Well, I have no idea what just unfolded (not your fault Ulrich), but I guess I'll have to be content with 7th and 11th from our youngsters.
Though obviously I can't actually be happy if positions 3 to 5 went to clearly weaker hybrid riders than Cavagna, when that appears to have been a successful formula.
If Cosnefroy can finish third, so can Cavagna with a straight up +4cob and at most some RES working against him, and from that point of view, we yet again underperformed.
But, as I said, it was an experiment with riders that will only get better with time, and Ganna as the more exciting prospect of these two did punch above his weight already.
Congrats TMM, for whatever reason, but that's a winning team I can get behind! 
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 12-02-2021 05:24
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A really meh race for the team TBH.
Congrats to TMM for the win - Cataford has finally won something this season. Also, very interesting report from Ulrich Ulriksen
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| ember |
Posted on 12-02-2021 05:35
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Grieg must be the big favourite here, having Würtz and Wisniowski.
Though, I'm quite optimistic regarding Anderberg's chances. Just like cio, I hope for a decent result and an upset here, but it's difficult to name what an upset would look like. A top 15 will be great |
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| redordead |
Posted on 12-02-2021 05:49
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Cobbled TTs are TMM's speciality now 
Looked like a fun race indeed Ulrich
"I am a cyclist, I may not be the best, but that is what I strive to be. I may never get there, but I will never quit trying." - Tadej Pogačar
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| ember |
Posted on 12-02-2021 05:56
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Oh, for some reason I didn't see the report was posted a couple of hours ago!
Very, very good race for us, going for the balanced rider types. Not that we had any choice, as Anderberg and Walsleben also are our best cobblers Thought Anderberg was our guy to challenge for a top 10, which was very nice to see him do, but Walsleben really put down the hammer and delivered a sensational performance. Having two riders in the top 10 is great, and some very welcome points
Very nice report, I followed that TT with a lot of interest, as the tension was high from early on. Especially as the "big guns" seemed to not be up for it, both the top cobblers and top time trialists.
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 12-02-2021 08:47
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Congrats TMM! Cool to see the hybrids beat the extremists.
And nice report and plot, Ulrich
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 12-02-2021 08:53
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DubbelDekker wrote:
Congrats TMM! Cool to see the hybrids beat the extremists.
And nice report and plot, Ulrich
Polanc disagrees 
Not the race we wanted tbh, pretty disappointing. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 12-02-2021 08:55
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A pity 78TT 74COB prime Boom never was able to race this here. From the graphic, he might have been superior to even the podium riders, who were weaker cobblers while still decent. |
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