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Eddie Merckx Stats
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| Ton1Mart1n |
Posted on 07-04-2015 16:37
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Hi all,
If you should give Eddie Merckx Pcm stats, what would you give him? (And yes I now its hard when the level and competetors are different today but still)
“When it’s hurting you, that’s when you can make a difference”
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 07-04-2015 17:56
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Just reading his biography.
FLAT: 84
MO: 82
HILL: 83
TT: 84
PR: 81
SP: 71
ACC: 81
STA: 85
REC: 85
RES: 83
COB: 82
FGHT: 85
DOWN: 85
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 07-04-2015 18:04
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Ian Butler wrote:
Just reading his biography.
FLAT: 84
MO: 82
HILL: 83
TT: 84
PR: 81
SP: 71
ACC: 81
STA: 85
REC: 85
RES: 83
COB: 82
FGHT: 85
DOWN: 85
Holy....
Doesnt he deserve a little better sprint that though? |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 07-04-2015 18:10
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Riis123 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Just reading his biography.
FLAT: 84
MO: 82
HILL: 83
TT: 84
PR: 81
SP: 71
ACC: 81
STA: 85
REC: 85
RES: 83
COB: 82
FGHT: 85
DOWN: 85
Holy....
Doesnt he deserve a little better sprint that though?
Merckx was no sprinter. With those stats, he'll win sprints in small groups after a tough race, so that's what he could do. But he won't win mass sprints 
Also, hidden stat:
Invoking fear into enemies: 85
Popularity: 57
Edited by Ian Butler on 07-04-2015 18:11
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 07-04-2015 18:34
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Putting my personal edits in bold. Basically humanising him a bit more and making him not a complete and total overkill. But i mostly agree with Ian
Ian Butler wrote:
FLAT: 84 > 80
MO: 82 > 79
HILL: 83
TT: 84 > 82
PR: 81
SP: 71 > 73
ACC: 81 > 79
STA: 85
REC: 85 > 82
RES: 83
COB: 82
FGHT: 85
DOWN: 85
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| udoi |
Posted on 16-04-2015 06:20
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Eddy stats
FL 81
MO 81
HILL 80
TT 81
PR 81
SPR 74
ACC 81
STA 80
REC 85
RES 82
COB 81
FGHT 83
DOWN 79
I've seen running on the road and on TV |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 16-04-2015 07:03
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Putting my personal edits in bold. Basically humanising him a bit more and making him not a complete and total overkill. But i mostly agree with Ian
Ian Butler wrote:
FLAT: 84 > 80
MO: 82 > 79
HILL: 83
TT: 84 > 82
PR: 81
SP: 71 > 73
ACC: 81 > 79
STA: 85
REC: 85 > 82
RES: 83
COB: 82
FGHT: 85
DOWN: 85
Well, that does not make much sense, because he was total overkill, so you either reflect it in stats like Ian did, or you are making stats for anybody else.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 16-04-2015 07:03
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-04-2015 07:43
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Well, that does not make much sense, because he was total overkill, so you either reflect it in stats like Ian did, or you are making stats for anybody else.
Well the sensible thing would be to give him all 85's
But if you are trying to stat someones whole career without a reference point it's tricky. It's not like Merckx was the best ever climber, he wasn't even the best climber of his time. He was just such an all-rounder in a time of relative all-rounders. Certainly in a PCM world his backups are his best quality and would put him in the mix for any race.
Put him into a world of specialization like we have now and it's hard to say how good he'd be on different terrains. Would he be all conquering or more like a Sagan who's good pretty much anywhere but not the best on any terrain?
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 16-04-2015 07:50
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Well, that does not make much sense, because he was total overkill, so you either reflect it in stats like Ian did, or you are making stats for anybody else.
Well the sensible thing would be to give him all 85's
But if you are trying to stat someones whole career without a reference point it's tricky. It's not like Merckx was the best ever climber, he wasn't even the best climber of his time. He was just such an all-rounder in a time of relative all-rounders. Certainly in a PCM world his backups are his best quality and would put him in the mix for any race.
Put him into a world of specialization like we have now and it's hard to say how good he'd be on different terrains. Would he be all conquering or more like a Sagan who's good pretty much anywhere but not the best on any terrain?
Ocana was a better climber at the same time, he wasn't the very best at anything at the time, except maybe on cobbles, he was just one of the best at everything and he was a very good tactician and just in general on the bike he was very efficient. |
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| udoi |
Posted on 31-05-2015 17:00
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...and 525 races won...
Edited by udoi on 31-05-2015 17:01
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