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Different stat evaluations
bouyguesfan
So, I missed almost 2 years of PCM and now the databases I look at have RIDICULOUSLY high stats. For basically every rider. I would like to know what effects does it have on the game before downloading huge files.

For example, the FCD one has Cheng Ji with an overall of 67 and totally hapless riders like Le Montagner with 70. The original db had them at 63-64.
What is the point I'm missing, this makes the timegaps smaller? Or makes breaks in the peloton less frequent? Just because I don't see why shoud a rider like Juraj Sagan be able to stay with the peloton in a WT race, something he is obviously unable to do.

Thanks for your help in advance.
Cycling for the Famiglia, a slightly different story:
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=24889
 
matt17br
Well. Cheng Ji was a great domestique in the last TDF,and I'm not kidding, he was one of the ones who helped the most in the flat stages. Le Montagner isn't that hopeless rider that you say and Juraj Sagan is a bit like Cheng Ji, he isn't that shitty and he is completely able to stay with the peloton in a race. As for the stat matrix that you rate ridicolously high, it changes from a db to another one. F.e. FDB has higher stats than the FCD that has higher stats than the PackITA that has lower stats than the A.S.O. So, if you like low stats you can simply try changing the db.
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bouyguesfan
Thanks for the response and I will look into PackITA then, as you mentioned it has the lowest stats of all.

But I have to defend my opinion on J.Sagan. Juraj has not been able to stay with the WT peloton on any other occasion than the 2012 Plouay Classic. Easily one of the worst riders in WT and he is 68.
I give it to you Ji though, as he really did the breakaway killer thingy in the TdF. Yet, the 69 MO is still unwarranted for someone who got 6 hours from Nibali.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the work of DB makers a lot, I was not saying that they got stuff wrong, as the stats are rather realistic compared to eachother inside the DB, but very high compared to original ones.
So my actual question was; What effect does it have on the game?
Edited by bouyguesfan on 13-10-2014 19:27
Cycling for the Famiglia, a slightly different story:
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=24889
 
cio93
Well for Sagan, the last time I checked TDU is a WT race and he was in the peloton on stages 1 and 4 last season, so that much for that statistic.

Plus, you might have realized that since then, he only rode two other WT races which were the constantly hilly Pais Vasco 2013 which has a route only a few riders have to be ashamed of being dropped on, and Vattenfall this season which had a front group of 58 riders.


I'm not saying you are completely wrong, just please pick useful statistics to back your reasoning up.
 
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matt17br
The only effect to the gameplay of higher stats is mainly too much riders that could compete in a race. This isn't realistic at all. Though, the 3 dbs above were examples. You might be considering also the Exapansion Pack or the FDB, but the last one has a completely unique matrix that makes all the riders have more than 70 in fl and most of them with more of 80. I'm biased, but the EP hast the most realistic stats.
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