PCM.daily banner
11-12-2025 09:25
PCM.daily
Users Online
· Guests Online: 98

· Members Online: 4
redordead, AbhishekLFC, Croatia14, Heine

· Total Members: 54,920
· Newest Member: RodrigueGauthier
View Thread
PCM.daily » Pro Cycling Manager 2006-2020 » Pro Cycling Manager 2014
 Print Thread
Prize Money in races ??
clamel
Could someone with better knowledge of career playing tell me this.

In each DB you got a table with prize-money for each category of race.
STA_bonus_superprestige
The UCI-class dictates what prizes you get from a race.
Now looking at added XMLs for Giro,Vuelta and the Tour even the Dauphiné one can see prize money based on not precise the same amount and rules.

I have heard that prize money was out for PCM2013, but back again. Will perhaps prize-money in XML classification files supersede the one in the DB OR what happens....

Are the added prize-money in the XMLs for the GT leftovers from PCM2013 ???
 
clamel
No one seams to know OR really care anyway.

I´m working hard on creating CORRECT XML classification files and the money might pay a important rule in this.

Since the standard XML class files are VERY wrong, it´s strange that so little has been talked about in this forum.

Some (and I believe only the Grand Tours, TDF,Giro and Vuelta) is correct and others are in some cases horrible wrong.
Getting those points for Dot and Green Jerseys is in my book very important. It develops the race very much from the GC and adds extras.

As I see that it´s probably more important to get shoes, gloves, bottle and the color of the bikes more important for most gamers I see no idea on putting my hard worked XML files out on display.
Please inform me otherwise, if so....

Folks with new DBs should have some smaller interrest I believe, but then Wink
 
matt17br
clamel wrote:
No one seams to know OR really care anyway.

I´m working hard on creating CORRECT XML classification files and the money might pay a important rule in this.

Since the standard XML class files are VERY wrong, it´s strange that so little has been talked about in this forum.

Some (and I believe only the Grand Tours, TDF,Giro and Vuelta) is correct and others are in some cases horrible wrong.
Getting those points for Dot and Green Jerseys is in my book very important. It develops the race very much from the GC and adds extras.

As I see that it´s probably more important to get shoes, gloves, bottle and the color of the bikes more important for most gamers I see no idea on putting my hard worked XML files out on display.
Please inform me otherwise, if so....

Folks with new DBs should have some smaller interrest I believe, but then Wink

You should really share your files as every file that improves career's gameplay is really welcome. The prize money isn't a topic part of the career, but it could be a great improvement for careers with small conti-teams. So keep it up and don't worry, your work on classifications etc. is surely great. If you share it, even if it is a small part of the game it really improves gameplay.
 
http://v.ht/Matt17
clamel
I will put these files as soon as the have been tested enough. I must even stress that looking at the ongoing Vuelta even that is WRONG with bonus seconds.
Intermeditae sprints in the XML says -10,-6,,4. It´s actually 3,2,1 seconds what I can see, and we all see that this race is a battle for seconds for the moment.

I have worked my way up from minor races and covers most of all HC races, will take a closer look at the Three Great too since this Vuelta mistake is trouble.

The biggest thing is however to have all the cont_21, cont_22 and cont2_HC the same systems. All have 25 points to stage winners that will completly crash any Green Jersey fight for any intermediate sprinters. The 20 second bonus for stage wins is something that I haven´t seen in ANY smaller race. Those 4-7 day races should be close second races and that will not happen with that huge bonus.


You see soon enough all the mistakes. Just hold on
 
matt17br
clamel wrote:
I will put these files as soon as the have been tested enough. I must even stress that looking at the ongoing Vuelta even that is WRONG with bonus seconds.
Intermeditae sprints in the XML says -10,-6,,4. It´s actually 3,2,1 seconds what I can see, and we all see that this race is a battle for seconds for the moment.

I have worked my way up from minor races and covers most of all HC races, will take a closer look at the Three Great too since this Vuelta mistake is trouble.

The biggest thing is however to have all the cont_21, cont_22 and cont2_HC the same systems. All have 25 points to stage winners that will completly crash any Green Jersey fight for any intermediate sprinters. The 20 second bonus for stage wins is something that I haven´t seen in ANY smaller race. Those 4-7 day races should be close second races and that will not happen with that huge bonus.


You see soon enough all the mistakes. Just hold on

What I would like to suggest you is to concentrate on bigger race first Wink
People will be interested more.
 
http://v.ht/Matt17
Ad Bot
Posted on 11-12-2025 09:25
Bot Agent

Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09

IP: None  
clamel
I am spanning all over the circuit, so don´t be worried.
All the 2HC races are covered and the level below is rapidly getting fixed.
It´s best, and has bigest effect, to test out races that is max a week long, mostly 3-4 day races. One can really see the fight for seconds in GC, and the much fewer points that some races has.

The tough thing is that Cyanide have missed out on that in many races it´s a split betwenn a direct Sprint Jersey and another Point classification (Green Jersey).
I have "forced" to combine them in those cases.

I started out with races in US since I believed that´s was were the biggest differences could be, but that was wrong.

I am trying to get them in different packages so that DB creators can start include them if they think it will make any difference.
 
matt17br
clamel wrote:
I am spanning all over the circuit, so don´t be worried.
All the 2HC races are covered and the level below is rapidly getting fixed.
It´s best, and has bigest effect, to test out races that is max a week long, mostly 3-4 day races. One can really see the fight for seconds in GC, and the much fewer points that some races has.

The tough thing is that Cyanide have missed out on that in many races it´s a split betwenn a direct Sprint Jersey and another Point classification (Green Jersey).
I have "forced" to combine them in those cases.

I started out with races in US since I believed that´s was were the biggest differences could be, but that was wrong.

I am trying to get them in different packages so that DB creators can start include them if they think it will make any difference.

Great effort man Smile
They will absolutely make more realism:
In career mode, for example, when you are 3-4 seconds behind the leader and you can't recover them it's easy finding an intermediate sprint that often gives 6". This is very unrealstic, an underrated part of the gameplay. Keep it up Wink
 
http://v.ht/Matt17
sgdanny
Sounds promising, keep up the good work Smile
i.imgur.com/pyvc2uc.png
 
clamel
One thing for sure, but that´s Cyanide problem, is that in many races the (what we call) interim sprints are separate competitions from the Point classifications.
I have to bundle them together.

Another "problem" is like the Eneco Tour having NO actual KoM jersey and competition. They have a "Black Jersey" Primus Comb race with different sprints mixed in with the Sprint competition.

Stage creators have in this case the only option to put in Mountain sprints, perhaps as cat 4, which then can be used as this different Primus Black Jersey battle.

This calls for some serious thinking in creating stages for Eneco Tour.
I believe I have seen a package from Ricardo123 on Eneco with some stages having cat 4 climbs, but it is needed to put in those cat 4 in ALL stages to have this idea to work proper.

The Black Jersey is not in DBs packages as far as I can see but it would be great if someone made it.
Edited by clamel on 05-09-2014 12:05
 
Jump to Forum:
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Latest content
Screenshots
Passalo
Passalo
PCM11: Official Screenshots
Fantasy Betting
Current bets:
No bets available.
Best gamblers:
bullet fighti... 23,876 PCM$
bullet Marcovdw 20,945 PCM$
bullet df_Trek 19,674 PCM$
bullet jseadog1 17,752 PCM$
bullet baseba... 13,739 PCM$

bullet Main Fantasy Betting page
bullet Rankings: Top 100
ManGame Betting
Current bets:
No bets available.
Best gamblers:
bullet Ollfardh 24,090 PCM$
bullet Marcovdw 20,400 PCM$
bullet df_Trek 17,820 PCM$
bullet jseadog1 17,700 PCM$
bullet Caspi 10,830 PCM$

bullet Main MG Betting page
bullet Get weekly MG PCM$
bullet Rankings: Top 100
Render time: 0.15 seconds