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Tutorial how to implement teamequipment?
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| timpiej |
Posted on 31-07-2014 21:57
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Hi there
I have a question, with all the brands in the equipment now I don't really know how to implement my team gear.
So I have the teams frames and everything, but where do I put it in so I can use it and not the 'standard' frame ?
I have been looking around in the cdb, and following equipment throughout it, but I just don't get it, for example:
For team belkin in DYN_team there is a collumn fkIDequipment_marques_cadre where it states '13'. Allthough when I open STA_equipment_model and find 13 in the collumn fkIDequipment_marque
all I see are Cervélo stuff. Even though Belkin rides with their Bianchi in game.
Can anyone write like sort of a tutorial so I and others who want to play with their custom team with equipment know what to do?
GrTz
Edited by timpiej on 31-07-2014 22:08
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| florian96 |
Posted on 01-08-2014 17:30
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I can read out of your post that you know how to edit cdb's so I tell you how I did it in a short overview.
In DYN_team you have the 4 equipment slots roue, cadre, helmet, glasses.
Now you want a specific frame for your team.
So you need the equipment_marques_cadre slot.
There you put in the IDbrand of your choice from STA_brand (remember it should be a frame so have a look at IDbrand_type "1" .
Now maybe you think it should work, but wait! When I tried to start a single race I didn't get the frame (IDbrand) I implemented in the equipment_marques_cadre slot.
So what I did next I opend DYN_brand_contract and there I did the following:
IDbrand_contract: next number available
IDteam: the number of the team in DYN_team you want for using the frame
IDbrand: the number we implemented in equipment_marques_cadre
gene_i_year_contract: I wrote "2014". Haven't tested something else yet.
value_i_budget: same as all the others "0"
gene_b_sponsor_lock: this is when your main or second sponsor is a manufacturer of the frame you can set this to "1". examples: Cannondale, BMC
value_i_years_left: years left until the contract is over. Set mine to 5.
After that I got the frame all the time.
The same goes for helmets, glasses and wheels
I hope this short instruction helps. 
Edited by florian96 on 02-08-2014 10:45
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| timpiej |
Posted on 02-08-2014 10:11
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Thanks for the reply, I do get it how your worked, only thing I find strange is that you are talking about the equipment_marques_roue slot while that is for wheels and not for frames, so I'm a bit confused about that now.
Since opening this thread I've been looking into it myself and it seems that the collumns equipment_marques_roue, equipment_marques_cadre, equipment_marques_helmet and equipment_marques_glasses have no use anymore...
Because like I said: if you take for example Belkin, in DYN_team it appears they would be riding with Cervélo, but they are listed in STA_brand_contract with Bianchi, so they ride Bianchi.
I still haven't found out how the glasses work though, because there are no contracts for that and the numbers in DYN_team go for frames, so I guess they are random.
Again thanks for bringing clarity into this!
Another short question though: say I want to replace Movistar's Canyon frame. In what table can I find the name of the file I am looking for? Can't seem to find it as in equipment_model there are only the basic frames and not the team ones :/
Edited by timpiej on 02-08-2014 10:37
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| florian96 |
Posted on 02-08-2014 10:44
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Sorry, you are right roue is for wheels and cadre is for frames my foult.
I will correct it.
I also think that the equipment collumns in DYN_team are useless. When I implemented the equuipment there it just showed once and after that never again.
For the glasses just add a new line in DYN_brand_contract as I wrote on post #2 and use the IDbrand from STA_brand of the lunettes you want. It worked for me.
Edited by florian96 on 02-08-2014 10:49
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| timpiej |
Posted on 02-08-2014 10:49
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Yep, for the glasses I will, thanks
Any idea about the filename of the teamframes? |
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| florian96 |
Posted on 02-08-2014 10:58
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Can you go more into detail?
Do I understand right that you want to know how to get your personal nif and dds files into the cdb and not use the standard Cyanide frames?
Edited by florian96 on 02-08-2014 11:01
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| timpiej |
Posted on 02-08-2014 11:01
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You understand right that I have a personal nif and dds files, and I want to get them into the cdb, but I don't know where I have to put in the name of it.
It's a Specialized frame but they are for my custom team. |
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| florian96 |
Posted on 02-08-2014 11:18
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put the nif and dds files into the same folder as in the last PCM versions.
then copy the name of the files into "STA_equipment_model" in "gene_sz_asset" where you created your frame.
In "gene_sz_name" you can set the name of the frame, which you can see then on the equipment section in game.
Edited by florian96 on 02-08-2014 11:19
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| timpiej |
Posted on 02-08-2014 12:00
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florian96 wrote:
put the nif and dds files into the same folder as in the last PCM versions.
then copy the name of the files into "STA_equipment_model" in "gene_sz_asset" where you created your frame.
In "gene_sz_name" you can set the name of the frame, which you can see then on the equipment section in game.
Ok, thanks, and if I find a better version of a Movistar Canyon frame, where do I find what name I have to give it? Because I can't find those names in the gene_sz_asset collumn in STA_equipment_model |
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| florian96 |
Posted on 02-08-2014 14:17
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You have to put the name of your frame in the slot "gene_sz_asset" so the game can find it in the frames folder of PCM.
for example:
movistar_canyon_frame.nif, ... .dds
put "movistar_canyon_frame" in the "gene_sz_asset" slot.
If you just want to overwrite an existing frame that is already in the game e.g. Frm_Damonb_XXXXXX_00 rename movistar_canyon_frame to it.
But I would recommend you to create a new frame.
the main pages we are working on are:
STA_brand
STA_equipment_model
DYN_brand_contract
* STA_brand is the first thing you need to do if you want to create a own category for your equipment.
IDbrand: next number available
gene_sz_name: name of your brand e.g. Specialized, Trek, Colnago, Wilier, ...
IDbrand_type: 1 is for frame poly if you want something else have a look at STA_brand_type
IDbrand_link: haven't tested it but it looks there you can link frames with wheels or helmets
value_f_pts: no idea what that means "0"
IDcountry_main: first i thought this is the nation it comes from, but it looks like it is for the nations they prefer for contracts.
IDcountry_secondary: same as above
IDtype_rider: it looks like when you put in a certain number it gives the frame a bonus on a specific type (STA_type_rider). If you want a normal allround frame just set in "0"
the 3 last slots are also filled with "0"
STA_equipment_model
First you need to create a new line:
IDequipment_model: next number available or higher number
fkIDequipment_marque: the number of the frame brand (IDbrand) placed in STA_brand*
fkIDequipment_template: there you put in 1 if you have a normal frame. Other numbers are in STA_equipment_template
gene_sz_name: name of your frame you can see in the equipment section, in the game itself
gene_sz_asset: here you place the name of your frame you want to see in the 3d game, e.g. movistar_canyon_frame instruction above
gene_IDphoto: haven't tested it so go with the others "0"
value_i_version: I think this is for the career mode which version you are using
value_i_default: I don't know what this is for I just set "20" as some of the other frames are too
value_i_lastyear_up: This might be the last time the frame was developed it is for the career mode again if you set this up to date you are not able to do a upgrade for the first year
value_i_state: "0"
This is all I can tell you. Maybe I will create a tutorial with pictures to make it "more visible" what I mean and it is easier to understand. |
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| timpiej |
Posted on 02-08-2014 15:13
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Oh I see, so in DB's that have come out, the frames are autocolored and there are no specific team frames used?
Because in their STA_equipment_model all I see are the XXX_ frames
For me it is clear what you are saying, but I've been editing DB's since pcm 10 and I just couldn't figure out the new system, thanks to you I do now. So thanks!
Edited by timpiej on 02-08-2014 15:14
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| florian96 |
Posted on 03-08-2014 09:14
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My pleasure!
Yes the cyanide frames are autocolored. Maybe you put in a neutral frame or take an autocolored too.
I got the problem with my specific specialized helmet in blue. In a stage race 4 other teams wear the same helmet in the same color. So this was not funny to look at.
So I used a autocolored helmet after that. It works but the autocolor ain't looking really good, no shapes, no dark and light parts.
So maybe the upcoming expansion pack of pcmdaily has got a solution for this. Let's hope the best.
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| timpiej |
Posted on 03-08-2014 09:42
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Maybe ye! do you have an idea about how to dermine the 'code' you have to put in in 'gene_sz_color' ? (I know it's off topic but I thought you might know it) |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 03-08-2014 09:47
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timpiej wrote:
Maybe ye! do you have an idea about how to dermine the 'code' you have to put in in 'gene_sz_color' ? (I know it's off topic but I thought you might know it)
https://pcmdaily.c...ost_940641
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| icewarrior |
Posted on 03-08-2014 09:58
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i did some modifications to my db and added a few new equipments everything works fine except in the 3D mode. i did some recoloring in some of the xxx_d files and now they dont show up in game, maybe i saved the file in the wrong format.
could someone tell me exaxtly what format the files need to be so they show up in the 3D mode? |
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| florian96 |
Posted on 03-08-2014 14:33
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you need to save the file in the DDS-format. You can use Gimp or paint.net for it.
In Gimp you need a tool for this so you better take paint.net be sure to save the DDS with DXT3 parameters.
That's how I do it. |
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| timpiej |
Posted on 03-08-2014 18:47
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Ok, can you tell me this a little more into detail? I'm ok with DB editing but I know nothing from those proggy's. Or if you want to do this quickly if you want? I would really appreaciate that!!!
Thanks again for all the help dude! |
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| icewarrior |
Posted on 04-08-2014 18:44
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florian96 wrote:
you need to save the file in the DDS-format. You can use Gimp or paint.net for it.
In Gimp you need a tool for this so you better take paint.net be sure to save the DDS with DXT3 parameters.
That's how I do it.
ty very much for your help its perfect now.
the only thing missing is the equipments photos, but i wanted to have the 3D photos like cyanide has, i just dont know how to do that.
still the paths in the db and local file are done, if i figure out how to do it i will just add them to the game |
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