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High Flat or Low Flat
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| Adamb |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:25
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weren't sure what to choose |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:28
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Adamb: please be a little more detailed about what you're asking here. What is the purpose of this poll/thread? |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:31
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He's probably asking whether he should use high FL stats in his DB, just as Focus does or normal/low ones as PCMdaily DB uses.
Normal for me.
Edited by admirschleck on 20-07-2014 17:31
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| Lachi |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:31
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Where is option 3: Normal FLA
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| Adamb |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:36
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admirschleck wrote:
He's probably asking whether he should use high FL stats in his DB, just as Focus does or normal/low ones as PCMdaily DB uses.
Normal for me.
This is what i meant, sorry for not being clear. But some people like it were they have all the riders around 75+. Where as others 70+. And was wondering which was the more liked to use in my DB.
Lachi - Normal Flat is the low Flat.
Example:
High Flat:
Cancellara 82
Wiggins 82
Froome 78
Nibali 78
Contador 78
Quintana 77
Low Flat:
Cancellara 82
Wiggins 81
Froome 75
Nibali 73
Contador 73
Quintana 72
NOTE: These won't be the stats. |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:39
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I fail to see how Cancellara's (f.e.) flat stat is low. I, however, understand your point, but it still isn't low flat stat matrix. It's normal and it's what should be. Making it extremely high or low is not a way to go.
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| The Hobbit |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:42
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Maybe a better way of phrasing it is the difference. Focus has bery little contrast, whereas Daily has much more of a contrast. |
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 20-07-2014 23:47
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The idea of the Focus matrix is to have high flat stats to stop riders being dropped so much on flat stages, personally I think it's a matter of taste and would prefer a db of contrast.
As I fail to see how a Colombian climber should only have a few points lower on a flat stat than powerhouses like Cancellara or Martin for example. |
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| undertaker |
Posted on 20-07-2014 23:57
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im use focus db, and not have problem with results. seems realistic. make one mountain tour stage, and top 4 is : Contador (me) froome, Quintana and Nibali |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 21-07-2014 00:00
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The problem is that you now basically can't have a rider dropping on a flat stage in Focus DB with those really high flat stats, which is not so realistic in my honest opinion. Also, a GC conteder (like Quintana f.e.) can't now drop from peloton on extremely windy stages and echelon stages, which is yet another thing that's not so realistic.
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| undertaker |
Posted on 21-07-2014 00:04
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Yeah but at the moment, not have a "full db" with other stats. french db, go use matrix stats. So only have Cycling italia DB or Spanish's db's avalible with no high flat stats.. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 21-07-2014 00:10
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undertaker wrote:
im use focus db, and not have problem with results. seems realistic. make one mountain tour stage, and top 4 is : Contador (me) froome, Quintana and Nibali This thread is about the flat stat (FLA) so mountain stage results are totally irrelevant.
My opinion: I don't care if the stats are high or low as long as the riders act realisticly. It would be bad if there wouldn't be any echolons or if Tony Martin couldn't drop the peloton. |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 21-07-2014 11:36
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Something just came to my mind. Certain databases had low flat stats for young sprinters and less good sprinters, so they could neither be used as sprinter nor in the sprint train.
I recommend that you rather concentrate on these sort of problems than bumping all flat stats. But maybe the XML files from Kentaurus fix the young sprinter problem already. |
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| Adamb |
Posted on 21-07-2014 18:09
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I think it's decided that the DB will have lower Flat stats. |
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