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Race Fitness and Fatigue. Help Needed
gezz1984
Im sorry if this has been answered in the past but ive trawled the forums and I havent been able to find an answer to this.

But what is the optimum race fitness that a rider should be racing at to get the best out of his stats?

Its pretty obvious that the higher the race fitness the better they will perform but as I have a custom team and i didnt get a Giro wildcard I have had to spread my Racers throughout the season. But what should I be aiming at when my riders race so that they stats arent to degraded i.e 70's? 80's? or 90's?

I thought I was clever and set my training to level 6 at 9 different peaks...... Then I stumbled accors something called fatigue..... Ill have to reset all my training schedules again.........
 
lluuiiggii
Well, if I understood right, you had 9 weeks of level 6 through the season? Yes that's gonna kill your riders. Level 6 in fact should be only used when you have a really special goal in the year (for example, the cobble classics week for a cobble rider, or the ardennes for a puncheur). Generally, you can have 2 lvl 6 peaks through the season.

However, it seems you have a smaller team. In that case, I'd avoid using lvl 6 training weeks. There's little difference between lvl 6 and 5 (something about 4-5 pts) and lvl 5 causes much less fatigue. So, a decent sprinter from a CT team can do well in much more races at lvl 5 than he would do in 2-3 races at lvl 6. As for a helper, same thing, if you use lvl 5 he can be at good form in a lot more races.

Normally, a rider with fitness 90+ should be able to compete in most races if he has the skills to do so, specially in the smaller races. With lvl 5 + 20 racing day fitness, he will be in about 95 fitness, and can keep that for more than a month without problem.
 
pienet
6 to 9 peaks is definitely too much. I usually have my riders peak twice in a season, for instance at Paris-Nice and the Tour de France. Level 6 is very tiring, and I let them train 2 or 3 weeks at that level. 3 weeks should be an absolute maximum.

You can achieve good results by having 75/80 in training fitness (that is achieved at Level 5), but then your race fitness has to be near perfect. This means two things
- enough preparation races to raise the race fitness (about 10-12 days shortly before your objectives)
- but too not many races overall. If a rider has more than 60 days a year, his race fitness will decrease sharply.

My advice is to use the schedules in the game as a basis, and tweak them to your liking. They should give you an idea of how much workload you can put on a rider. In the schedule's editor, you have a very useful button called "fatigue simulator" or something. It shows the level of fatigue provoked by your training, and should stay at a reasonable level.

I personally find them a bit too hard on the riders, but it's up to you.

I attach an example of a training schedule I've used at the Continental level.
[img-r]https://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2011/06/26//110626121943487648383581.gif[/img-r]


 
gezz1984
Thanks guys that really helps. You have cleared up a lot of niggles i had about training, TBH I was very naive when i done the schedules, im busy re jigging them as we speak!

Lets hope I get wildcard for the Tour and Vuelta, or ill b doing them all again!!
 
cactus-jack
The one listed in the photo above is quite similar to what most people use, I feel. Personally I wouldn't hve the last peak in the end. I try to get two peaks, usually one around March or April and another one around August.
 
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lluuiiggii
Indeed, the last peak won't even be that effective, because the fatigue will make sure that lvl 6 fitness isn't even reached (fatigue won't probably let a higher fitness than 75). However, while not really affecting for a higher fitness value, that lvl 6 training week will affect fatigue, and I think the rider will have less training points than what he would do reaching lvl 5 only on that last week (which would also provide more resting for him before that).
 
pienet
Yes I agree that that last peak is not so necessary. I usually play it by ear at the end of the year and adjust the training level to maximize fitness.
 
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