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Milano - Torino & Emilia Discussion
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| Kami |
Posted on 01-03-2011 22:10
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It's time for the 2 final hilly Italian CT classics; Milano - Torino and Giro dell'Emilia. M - T is a C1 race, while Emilia is the penultimate HC race of the season. Both are loaded with top riders.
Milano - Torino
The race with only one hill and a flat run-in. We've had a few similar races, and in their cases, they weren't decided on the hills, but in the sprint or the flat run-in. Last year, the race was won by Ignatiev, who attacked away on the flat part. He's here again, looking for a last win this season.
Again, a very loaded field. Ricco, Gilbert, Ponzi, Pozzato, Ginanni, Efimkin, ... So, the usual. From last years result, we can see that a huge group sprinted for second place behind Ignatiev. If everything sticks together this year, then Pozzato has a good shot of taking this in the sprint. Although, a rouleur like Gilbert might just ride away on the flat like he did back in Philadelphia. If the race gets decided on the hills, then Ricco and Ginanni have the best shot, probably with Gilbert and Ponzi tagging along.
So, possible top 5:
| 1. | Philippe Gilbert | | 2. | Riccardo Ricco | | 3. | Simone Ponzi | | 4. | Francesco Ginanni | | 5. | Filippo Pozzato |
Gilbert has a very good shot at the win, with the downhill and flat run-in. Ricco is riding on home soil, so if he comes over the top with Gilbert he might be able to stay with him. Ponzi is a good choice with his sprinting ability. Although Wiggle have the strongest squad, i only put one of their riders in the top 5. I foresee leaderships issues. Ginanni will finally get a top 5, and Pozzato in a sprint from a second group?
Startlist Spoiler Bacardi
1. R.Ricco
2. T.Danculovic
3. J.El Fares
4. C.Hervé
5. M.Perget
6. F.Reda
7. E.Sokolov
Pendleton's
11. P.Gilbert
12. S.Duret
13. T.Kennaugh
14. A.Moinard
15. J.Rovira
16. E.Vorganov
17. F.Willems
Vespa
21. F.Ginanni
22. G.Bosisio
23. A.Pagoto
24. A.Passalacqua
25. A.Proni
26. M.Quinziato
27. E.Verbist
Mercedes
31. F.Pozzato
32. J.Bol
33. B.Jacques-Maynes
34. S.Nydam
35. L.Pasamontes
36. P.Stetina
37. E.Weiss
Milka
41. A.Efimkin
42. R.Grychenko
43. O.Hirschlein
44. L.Howard
45. B.Leukemans
46. Y.Nepomnyachsniy
47. R.Porte
Wiggle
51. M.Ignatiev
52. L.Bertagnolli
53. D.Caruso
54. T.Diggle
55. B.Hermans
56. R.Nocentini
57. S.Ponzi
LEGO
61. M.Monfort
62. J.Allain
63. D.Claeys
64. J.Libert
65. F.Rabon
66. P.Rooijakkers
67. T.Zaini
UBS
71. A.Roux
72. M.Albasini
73. S.Barrio
74. J.Le Bon
75. J.Mora
76. G.Signorini
77. D.Vorontsov
Cillit Bang
81. H.Ben Nasser
82. J.Coenen
83. M.De Maar
84. M.Eichler
85. D.Kopp
86. H.Ma
87. M.Zenagui
Tinkoff
91. A.Kolobnev
92. A.Arekejev
93. P.Brutt
94. I.Rovny
95. B.Shpilevski
96. Y.Sobal
97. V.Valinin
Intesa
101. J.Vansummeren
102. E.Girardi
103. D.Grabovski
104. T.Pinot
105. C.Salerno
106. R.Sentjens
107. A.Zordan
Pirelli
111. L.Bernucci
112. I.Basso
113. G.Cheula
114. N.D'Andrea
115. M.Iannetti
116. L.Paolini
117. D.Pietropolli
Benfica
121. R.Costa
122. D.Belda
123. J.Benitez
124. M.Krasnoperov
125. B.Lima
126. M.Lloyd
127. A.Saldarriaga
HighRoad
131. R.Ruijgh
132. D.Devenyns
133. J.Ghyselinck
134. J.Stuyven
135. M.Van Aelbroeck
136. C.Vermeltfoort
137. R.Zingle
Control
141. T.Boonratanathanakorn
142. S.Batchelor
143. K.Michely
144. A.Niyonshuti
Giro dell'Emilia
The most prestigious hilly classic in the Continental Tour. Last year this race was still Pro Tour and was won by Damiano Cunego. Only a few riders present now, were there last year aswell. Most notable; Monfort, Claeys, Bertagnolli, Nocentini.
The absolute favorite for this race, has to be Riccardo Ricco. Skill-wise he's almost an identical copy of Cunego, add to that a home-soil bonus, and you got a recipe for succes. However, there is more then one rider taking the challenge of stopping Ricco. The calvary is being led by Stefan Schumacher. Other big names include Gilbert, Ginanni, Pozzato. Another factor might be the many outside favorites. If one of them attacks earlier on, will anyone be willing to chase it down?
Prediction:
| 1. | Riccardo Ricco | | 2. | Stefan Schumacher | | 3. | Simone Ponzi | | 4. | Philippe Gilbert | | 5. | Francesco Ginanni |
Speaks for itself, the strongest riders are most likely to end on the top 5 spots. Can Schumacher and Gilbert withstand the force of the Italians or will the Italians dominate the race?
Startlist Spoiler UBS
1. S.Schumacher
2. M.Albasini
3. S.Barrio
4. J.Le Bon
5. J.Mora
6. A.Roux
7. G.Signorini
8. S.Zahner
Bacardi
11. R.Ricco
12. J.El Fares
13. C.Hervé
14. K.Kirchen
15. A.Passeron
16. M.Perget
17. F.Reda
18. E.Sokolov
Pendleton's
21. P.Gilbert
22. M.Chérel
23. S.Duret
24. A.Moinard
25. A.Moletta
26. J.Rovira
27. E.Vorganov
28. F.Willems
Vespa
31. F.Ginanni
32. L.Ascani
33. G.Bosisio
34. D.Garbelli
35. E.Luzi
36. A.Pagoto
37. A.Passalacqua
38. A.Proni
Mercedes
41. F.Pozzato
42. J.Bol
43. S.Cozza
44. W.Frischkorn
45. B.Jacques-Maynes
46. L.Pasamontes
47. P.Stetina
48. E.Weiss
Milka
51. A.Efimkin
52. R.Grychenko
53. O.Hirschlein
54. B.Leukemans
55. A.Malori
56. Y.Nepomnyachsniy
57. A.Nepomnyachsniy
58. R.Porte
Wiggle
61. S.Ponzi
62. L.Bertagnolli
63. D.Caruso
64. T.Diggle
65. C.Grippo
66. B.Hermans
67. R.Nocentini
68. M.Pavarin
LEGO
71. M.Monfort
72. J.Allain
73. D.Claeys
74. J.Libert
75. A.Moschella
76. F.Rabon
77. K.Vantornout
78. T.Zaini
Cillit Bang
81. H.Ben Nasser
82. J.Coenen
83. M.De Maar
84. M.Eichler
85. V.Hacecký
86. P.Pancake
87. D.Shatskikh
88. M.Ulanowski
Tinkoff
91. A.Kolobnev
92. M.Belkov
93. P.Brutt
94. S.Klimov
95. A.Kunshin
96. I.Rovny
97. B.Shpilevski
98. Y.Sobal
IKEA
101. A.Flügel
102. L.Andersson
103. N.Brolin
104. D.Kupfernagel
105. J.Ljungblad
106. L.Lundberg
107. P.Sagan
108. A.Stillfors
Santander
111. F.Ventoso
112. J.Del Nero
113. J.Gallego Martin
114. D.Galparsoro
115. E.Gonzalo
116. J.Gárate
117. A.Perez Arrieta
118. R.Serrano
Intesa
121. J.Vansummeren
122. M.Delage
123. D.Grabovski
124. D.Kozontchuk
125. A.Kunitski
126. R.Mandri
127. T.Pinot
128. C.Salerno
100Me
131. C.Froome
132. D.Appleby
133. S.Bennett
134. D.Martin
135. N.Roche
136. J.Sergent
137. B.Stockdale
138. W.Sulzberger
Falcon
141. M.Wyss
142. F.Chicchi
143. J.Decouttere
144. T.Eltink
145. J.Hoogerland
146. T.Larsson
147. J.Sørensen
148. G.Tzortzakis
Pirelli
151. L.Bernucci
152. I.Basso
153. G.Cheula
154. H.Dupont
155. M.Iannetti
156. Z.Ndbri
157. L.Paolini
158. D.Pietropolli
UniCredit
161. E.Gasparotto
162. M.Brändle
163. J.Grau
164. D.Kreutzfeldt
165. S.Lander
166. J.Mazet
167. D.Rizio
168. D.Teklehaimanot
Benfica
171. M.Lloyd
172. D.Belda
173. J.Benitez
174. V.Gomes Colinas
175. M.Krasnoperov
176. R.Laverde Velez
177. M.Nazaret
178. A.Saldarriaga
HighRoad
181. R.Ruijgh
182. K.De Weert
183. D.Devenyns
184. J.Ghyselinck
185. J.Stuyven
186. M.Van Aelbroeck
187. C.Vermeltfoort
188. R.Zingle
Yamaha
191. K.Seeldraeyers
192. A.Bajadali
193. G.Báez
194. A.Cardoso Española
195. I.Landaluze
196. H.Martino
197. I.Parra Pinto
198. F.Piamonte
Control
201. T.Boonratanathanakorn
202. S.Batchelor
203. K.Michely
204. A.Niyonshuti
My schedule will depend on Tours and Piemonte  .
Edited by Kami on 01-03-2011 22:11
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 01-03-2011 22:15
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Has any continental team fielded such a vastly awesomely in depth squad before? Especially for a non-favourite?
Wiggle
51. M.Ignatiev
52. L.Bertagnolli
53. D.Caruso
54. T.Diggle
55. B.Hermans
56. R.Nocentini
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| Smowz |
Posted on 02-03-2011 10:06
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rjc: Should be interesting to see how that makes the team race. Three or four of em in the top ten would be a good result of course. More likely two in top ten and then three between positions 10 and 20.
Gotta add this - possible revenge mission for Riccardo Ricco for non selection for worlds?
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 02-03-2011 16:13
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Good courses for Gilbert and a strong support team for Emilia so another HC win would be great. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-03-2011 16:46
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Smowz wrote:
Gotta add this - possible revenge mission for Riccardo Ricco for non selection for worlds?
Italian National Champs would be a better one for the revenge mission of Ricco, imo.
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| Kami |
Posted on 02-03-2011 16:52
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Smowz wrote:
Gotta add this - possible revenge mission for Riccardo Ricco for non selection for worlds?
Italian National Champs would be a better one for the revenge mission of Ricco, imo.
I was looking forward to that one. He was second there last year, so it's possible.
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 02-03-2011 18:06
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Emilia was a good race last year - Torino less so.
Expect Ricco to do very well in both races. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-03-2011 18:09
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fenian_1234 wrote:
Emilia was a good race last year - Torino less so.
Id argue the opposite
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 02-03-2011 18:42
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Might be mixing up Torino with another race, but the way I remember it was that it was one of those silly hilly races were the 'pack' stopped chasing on the downhill. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-03-2011 18:45
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Here's a reminder to it's awesomeness 
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 02-03-2011 18:48
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There's Ignatiev winning again? |
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| Kami |
Posted on 04-03-2011 15:37
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And specially for rjc, i added 2 screenshots for the final k .
Happy with this victory and looking good for Emilia, as this should have been a less ideal race.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 04-03-2011 15:37
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Eugh, and only one point-scorer. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-03-2011 15:47
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I won't make any comments. I might get kicked outta the man game.
EDIT:
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| Kami |
Posted on 04-03-2011 15:53
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rjc_43 wrote:
I won't make any comments. I might get kicked outta the man game.
EDIT:
Although, i write my previews before i go play the races, i was actually foreseeing something like this. I don't get though, why Ignatiev didn't do anything at all. It would have made much more sense if Ponzi went with the first wave, and then Ignatiev went alone on the moment Ponzi went.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-03-2011 15:57
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I was more referring to a certain managers rider winning Although in this circumstance, it is certainly expected. Plus I am actually happy with 3rd considering the depth of talent in the race. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 04-03-2011 16:09
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In this case, i'll quote you:
rjc_43 wrote:
I had thought of bringing out the old style reporting, I won't be taking the British or Italian champs though, far too likely to click "replay stage" over and over again until I won them both
(That IS a joke btw, I never have, or will, replay stages to get results)
And like you said, Ricco is favorite in every hilly classic around. Even more if it's an Italian classic.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-03-2011 16:12
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So you did succumb to the pressure of ensuring Ricco won? |
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| Kami |
Posted on 04-03-2011 16:17
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rjc_43 wrote:
So you did succumb to the pressure of ensuring Ricco won?
Let me quote you again
rjc_43 wrote:
(That IS a joke btw, I never have, or will, replay stages to get results)
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 04-03-2011 16:18
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Last time you raced one, didn't Goss win? |
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