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| Smowz |
Posted on 01-03-2011 22:04
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Two last unpredictable flat classics occur in October. The weather in Europe can be a bit variable so we can expect the unexpected - but odds do usually favour a bunch sprint.
Paris Tours
First we have the lengthy Paris Tours.
Should really suit the sprinters, but it is a bit twist and tricky at the end of the stage so barouders have a chance also. The startlist:
Spoiler UniCredit
1. D.Napolitano
2. A.Borrajo
3. M.Brändle
4. E.Gasparotto
5. F.Gavazzi
6. B.Van Poppel
7. B.Vandborg
100Me
11. P.Kennaugh
12. D.Appleby
13. S.Bennett
14. M.Cavendish
15. D.Lloyd
16. N.Roche
17. J.Sampson
Pendleton's
21. J.Van Heerden
22. C.Abdallah
23. B.Bozic
24. M.Ladagnous
25. J.Rovira
26. N.Sijmens
27. F.Willems
Bacardi
31. M.Goss
32. A.Gajek
33. J.Kocjan
34. A.Kruopis
35. A.Kuchinski
36. J.Nazon
37. A.Passeron
Quiksilver
41. A.Davis
42. F.Cruz
43. C.D'Amore
44. T.Kuphaldt
45. R.Sambris
46. S.Scheirlinckx
47. B.Selander
LEGO
51. G.Ciolek
52. J.Hochmann
53. G.Lequatre
54. S.Radochla
55. P.Rooijakkers
56. A.Stauff
57. R.Weissinger
Bimbo
61. G.Van Avermaet
62. S.Chavanel
63. D.Craven
64. G.Dockx
65. B.Eisel
66. E.Popov
67. H.Sabido
Petronas
71. L.Croket
72. I.Abakoumov
73. G.Bole
74. R.Feillu
75. W.Jallays
76. K.Lalouette
77. R.Scholz
Tinkoff
81. A.Markov
82. A.Khatuntsev
83. S.Klimov
84. J.Marycz
85. N.Novikov
86. Y.Sobal
87. V.Valinin
Milka
91. J.Casper
92. J.Forero
93. L.Howard
94. I.Keisse
95. A.Malori
96. R.Porte
97. M.Vanderaerden
Mercedes
101. J.Haedo
102. A.Brea
103. S.Cozza
104. L.Pasamontes
105. B.Sinner
106. T.Tolleson
107. E.Weiss
Intesa
111. Y.Hutarovich
112. M.Bandiera
113. C.Cucinotta
114. M.Delage
115. E.Girardi
116. P.Mertens
117. C.Salerno
Pokerstars
121. R.Kluge
122. J.Degenkolb
123. S.Dumoulin
124. A.Geslin
125. D.Holloway
126. M.Maaskant
127. N.Terpstra
Benfica
131. V.Gomes Colinas
132. D.Belda
133. M.Krasnoperov
134. R.Laverde Velez
135. M.Lloyd
136. M.Nazaret
137. A.Saldarriaga
HighRoad
141. K.Boeckmans
142. D.Atapuma
143. B.Day
144. M.Elijzen
145. S.Finning
146. J.Ghyselinck
147. Y.Kusters
Control
151. T.Boonratanathanakorn
152. S.Batchelor
153. K.Michely
154. A.Niyonshuti
Bbox
161. R.Sutherland
162. J.Mayo
163. F.Stalder
164. B.Tankink
165. G.Trampusch
166. D.Veilleux
167. Y.Wei
Plenty of top sprinters on show here Goss will be bouyed by recent success in Franco Belge, Ciolek and Van Heerden have been a recent winners also. 100% Me have got Kennaugh for this one, whilst the Milka team have one of the best French chances in Casper. Davis, Van Avermart, Crocket and reigning champ Markov cannot be ruled out.
Meanwhile watch for some strongmen to attack in the finale.
A couple of days later in Italy
Giro del Piemonte
Shorter in distance, but a fairly draining drag.
See's plenty of teams doubling up in the startlist:
Spoiler Vespa
1. G.Steegmans
2. L.Ascani
3. A.Balloni
4. V.Bastaens
5. A.Cappelle
6. M.Gavazzi
7. E.Verbist
UniCredit
11. D.Napolitano
12. A.Borrajo
13. M.Brändle
14. E.Gasparotto
15. F.Gavazzi
16. B.Van Poppel
17. B.Vandborg
100Me
21. B.Swift
22. M.Cavendish
23. S.Gaywood
24. D.Lloyd
25. D.Martin
26. U.Monks
27. B.Stockdale
Pendleton's
31. J.Van Heerden
32. C.Abdallah
33. B.Bozic
34. T.Kennaugh
35. M.Ladagnous
36. E.Mardones
37. M.McNally
Bacardi
41. M.Goss
42. A.Gajek
43. J.Kocjan
44. A.Kruopis
45. A.Kuchinski
46. F.Pacheco
47. T.Thill
Quiksilver
51. A.Davis
52. C.D'Amore
53. J.Gutiérrez Palacios
54. T.Kuphaldt
55. R.Sambris
56. S.Scheirlinckx
57. B.Selander
LEGO
61. G.Ciolek
62. J.Hochmann
63. G.Lequatre
64. S.Radochla
65. P.Rooijakkers
66. A.Stauff
67. R.Weissinger
Petronas
71. L.Croket
72. I.Abakoumov
73. A.Awang
74. G.Bole
75. R.Feillu
76. W.Jallays
77. K.Lalouette
Tinkoff
81. A.Markov
82. A.Khatuntsev
83. S.Klimov
84. J.Marycz
85. N.Novikov
86. Y.Sobal
87. V.Valinin
Falcon
91. F.Chicchi
92. G.Briggs
93. S.Clarke
94. J.Guarnieri
95. T.Gudsell
96. K.Nielsen
97. M.Wyss
Milka
101. J.Casper
102. L.Howard
103. A.Malori
104. Y.Nepomnyachsniy
105. A.Nepomnyachsniy
106. R.Porte
107. Z.Stybar
Pirelli
111. A.Loddo
112. L.Bernucci
113. G.Cheula
114. M.Iannetti
115. S.Masciarelli
116. L.Paolini
117. D.Pietropolli
Mercedes
121. J.Haedo
122. A.Brea
123. S.Cozza
124. W.Frischkorn
125. S.Nydam
126. B.Sinner
127. T.Tolleson
Intesa
131. M.Lorenzetto
132. M.Bandiera
133. E.Capecchi
134. D.Grabovski
135. P.Mertens
136. A.Nechita
137. T.Pinot
Bbox
141. S.Damrow
142. K.Arvesen
143. M.Astarloza
144. L.Didier
145. A.Diniz
146. A.Gottfried
147. D.Veilleux
Goss, Van Avermart, Davis, Van Heerden, Casper, Markov, Haedo, Napolitano and Ciolek are here once again and all should be reckoned with. 100% Me have perhaps there best sprint man Swift here with Cavendish. Meanwhile Italian teams Vespa, Intesa and Pirelli have good chances also with Steegmans, Lorenzatto and Loddo.
Possibly less chance for a late attack to win this one unless a windy race stops a potential chase down for a sprint.
Schedule:
This races likely to be posted towards the end of the week!
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 01-03-2011 22:06
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Would like a win but will still be quite content with a continued string of podiums. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 01-03-2011 22:08
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I'm sure of it Goss will fail  . Last races for him!
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| beagle |
Posted on 01-03-2011 22:38
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P-T has quite tricky finish, I´m an optimist and smelling surprisingly good result from my team here
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| Christer |
Posted on 01-03-2011 22:44
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Weak teams here... Attack, guys!
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| rycadinho |
Posted on 02-03-2011 15:01
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Come on Loddo, I'm sure you can make it to the finish, with the peloton this time!
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| viking90 |
Posted on 02-03-2011 16:07
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Maybe Guarnieri or Chicchi can do it good in their homeland. Would be nice with at good finish of the season. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 02-03-2011 18:07
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Steegmans last real chance to bring a smile to my face. No doubt he'll do something equallly as stupid as he did at Vattenfalls. |
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| beagle |
Posted on 03-03-2011 21:44
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beagle wrote:
P-T has quite tricky finish, I´m an optimist and smelling surprisingly good result from my team here
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 03-03-2011 22:53
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not great. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 03-03-2011 23:35
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| Roman |
Posted on 04-03-2011 00:17
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Good race! This looks good for now!
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 04-03-2011 00:41
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Top 30, a solid result for my team
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 04-03-2011 01:20
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Kluge victory for Pokerstars highlights an upcoming dilemna for the team. Loaning him out to the ProTour would make him a much more useful rider for 2013 - but he is already such an asset that losing him could impact on any 2012 promotion hopes. Pokerstars are significantly the best scorers here, climbing to 11th - and right back in the battle.
Ahead of them, Milka will be happiest. Bacardi may have hoped for more but remain ahead of Pendletons - and Lego were unable to close the gap at all, while Petronas failed to score. Theres good points for Bimbo in 14th, while Quiksilver, UniCredit and Intesa all scored to no positional gain.
| 1 | Team IKEA - Bianchi | 4614 | | 2 | Wiggle - San Pellegrino | 4420 | | 3 | 100% Me | 3541 | | 4 | Milka | 3513 | | 5 | Bacardi - Colt | 3340 | | 6 | Pendleton's Twicer | 3325 | | 7 | Team LEGO | 3145 | | 8 | UBS - Annie Chun's | 3097 | | 9 | Petronas - Olympus | 3048 | | 10 | Sport Lisboa e Benfica | 3005 | | 11 | Team Pokerstars.com | 2964 | | 12 | Santander | 2933 | | 13 | Tinkoff Credit Systems - Rosneft | 2899 | | 14 | Bimbo Nutella | 2843 | | 15 | Mercedes-Benz | 2508 | | 16 | Red Bull | 2495 | | 17 | Team Telenor-SAS | 2283 | | 18 | Cillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by the Moon X | 2102 | | 19 | YouTube - Twitter | 2051 | | 20 | Vespa-Caffrey's | 1898 | | 21 | Pirelli - Internazionale | 1888 | | 22 | EL AL - IDF | 1836 | | 23 | Quiksilver-Kraft | 1834 | | 24 | UniCredit | 1597 | | 25 | Intesa | 1505 | | 26 | Yamaha - Greenpeace | 1281 | | 27 | Team Falcon-Husqvarna | 1266 | | 28 | HighRoad-TomTom | 1066 | | 29 | Bbox Bouygoues Telecom | 1050 |
And here is the individual standings, Kluge up to 58th:
| 1 | Rein | Taaramäe | EST | Team IKEA - Bianchi | 1283 | | 2 | Simone | Ponzi | ITA | Wiggle - San Pellegrino | 943 | | 3 | Jose | Alarcon | VEN | Team IKEA - Bianchi | 931 | | 4 | Mikhail | Ignatiev | RUS | Wiggle - San Pellegrino | 930 | | 5 | Franco | Pellizotti | ITA | YouTube - Twitter | 898 | | 6 | Kim | Kirchen | LUX | Bacardi - Colt | 852 | | 7 | José | Serpa | COL | Pirelli - Internazionale | 831 | | 8 | Juan José | Cobo | ESP | Santander | 822 | | 9 | Maxime | Monfort | BEL | Team LEGO | 794 | | 10 | Riccardo | Ricco | ITA | Bacardi - Colt | 792 | | 14 | Juan | Van Heerden | SAF | Pendleton's Twicer | 736 | | 15 | Matthew | Goss | AUS | Bacardi - Colt | 705 | | 25 | Mark | Cavendish | GBR | 100% Me | 553 | | 31 | Jimmy | Casper | FRA | Milka | 502 | | 43 | Danilo | Napolitano | ITA | UniCredit | 430 | | 49 | Gerald | Ciolek | GER | Team LEGO | 405 | | 58 | Roger | Kluge | GER | Team Pokerstars.com | 367 | | 77 | Allan | Davis | AUS | Quiksilver-Kraft | 305 | | 82 | Peter | Kennaugh | GBR | 100% Me | 291 | | 83 | Staf | Scheirlinckx | BEL | Quiksilver-Kraft | 290 | | 90 | Samuel | Dumoulin | FRA | Team Pokerstars.com | 275 | | 91 | Juan Pablo | Forero | COL | Milka | 271 | | 126 | Niki | Terpstra | NED | Team Pokerstars.com | 192 | | 159 | Anthony | Geslin | FRA | Team Pokerstars.com | 143 | | 184 | Hugo | Sabido | POR | Bimbo Nutella | 122 | | 210 | Mickaël | Delage | FRA | Intesa | 93 | | 236 | Geoffroy | Lequatre | FRA | Team LEGO | 74 | | 241 | Evgeni | Popov | RUS | Bimbo Nutella | 69 | | 249 | Iljo | Keisse | BEL | Milka | 64 | | 331 | Jaume | Rovira | ESP | Pendleton's Twicer | 35 |
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| Rin |
Posted on 04-03-2011 11:05
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LEGO sprinters fail a lot..
Lequatre isn't a that really bad sprinter or is he? I think he has flat/sprint/accleration at 73, except Kluge were the others infront a lot better? I bought him to hope he will get some breakaway wins as he has decent breakaway/sprinting stats
Ciolek 9th is just disappointing..
I hope, when we change to PCM10, that there could be more breakaway wins/surprising wins as I like to have 1-3 riders good breakaway riders and I can't remember a breakaway win of one of my riders
Edited by Rin on 04-03-2011 11:24
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| Kami |
Posted on 04-03-2011 18:32
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Bah, not good. That was Goss his last race. He did have a good season overall as one of the most consistent of the sprinter (if you can call sprinters consistent ).
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 04-03-2011 18:51
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that's better |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 04-03-2011 19:28
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I really don't like seeing my team work to bring the break back and then Steegmans not bothering to get in position for the sprint.
Good win for Napolitano - this race really suits him. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 04-03-2011 19:30
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Last time we see Steegmans riding in Vespa colours in a CT race, I would assume?
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 04-03-2011 19:39
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He could still be useful next season. I don't think he'll accept the 50k I plan to offer him in renewals though. |
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