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eple
Just finished Giro d'Italia. My results in the UCI tour so far:

Tour down under
2nd: Goss +3"
3rd: Nerz +10"

Jerseys:
Sprinter: Goss 36pts | Nerz 24pts
KOM: Harry Rodgers
Young rider: Peeters

Podium finishes:
1st: Goss x4
2nd: Nerx x3

Paris-Nice
7th: De Gendt

(De Gendt was 2nd behind Henao. His team was closing the break away down on the last hilly stage when all of a sudden they stopped. I was too late to notice and fell down the GC ranking and was unable to rectify in the last stage which was flat)

Jerseys:
Sprinter: De Gendt 2nd (-2 pts)
Youmg Rider: Hue

Podium finishes:
1st: De Gendt x2 | Goss
Podium: Vermote, De Gendt x2

Tirr-Adriactico
2nd: Sagan "28

Jerseys:
Sprinter: Sagan
Young Rider: Alvarado

Podium finishes:
1st: Sagan x4
Podium: Phinney, Sagan

Milan-San Remo
2nd: Goss 29"
3rd: Sagan 55"
4th: Keirsbulck
10th: De Gendt

E3:
1st: Peter Sagan
4th: Keirsbulck
6th: Phinney
9th: De Bie

Gent-Wevelgem
1st: Peter Sagan
3rd: Taylor Phinney

Volta Catalunya
1st: De Gendt
4th: Nerz +39"

Jerseys:
Sprinter: De Gendt
Young rider: Hue

Stage Wins: Goss x2 | De Gendt
Podium: De Gendt x4 | Demare

Ronde-Vlaanderen
2nd: Sagan
3rd: Keirsbulck

Pais Vasco
1st: Nerz

Jerseys
Sprinter: Nerz
Young Rider: Hue

Stage Win: Nerz x2 | Goss
Podium: Nerz x2 | Demare

Paris-Roubaix
1st: Peter Sagan
2nd: Keirsbulck

Amstel Gold Race
1st: Sagan

La Fleche Wallonne
4th: Sagan

Liege - Bastogne - Liege
1st: Sagan

Tour de Romandie
7th: Aru +2'17"
9Th: Talansky +2'38"

Young rider: Seth Jones
Podium: G. Thomas x2

Giro de Italia
1st: Aru

Jerseys
Sprinter: Aru
KOM: Jones
Young rider: Jones

Stage Win: Aru x2 | Swift x2 | Jones x2 | Thomas
Podium: Aru x5 | Swift x5 | Talansky x3 | Jones | Poppel

Aside from the odd mistakes and poor results it's been a great season so far. Most AI riders seemed out of form in the Giro, so I expect a very difficult Tour once again. The double in Paris-Roubaix means whatever happen I'm more than satisfied.
Edited by eple on 25-08-2013 17:25
 
Stijn96
I'm in 1st season with team La Pomme-Marseille and I want to sign Jerome Coppel.
Does anybody know his potential as a climber? What mountain rating will he reach in 2-3 years time? He's now at 75
Edited by Stijn96 on 28-08-2013 16:34
 
cunego59
If you really want to know, you can always look in the editor (DYN_cyclist -> limits). Although I personally think that it's also a fun part of the game not to know those kinds of things and be surprised or disappointed at times as well. But that's of course up to you Wink
 
Stijn96
cunego59 wrote:
If you really want to know, you can always look in the editor (DYN_cyclist -> limits). Although I personally think that it's also a fun part of the game not to know those kinds of things and be surprised or disappointed at times as well. But that's of course up to you Wink


Yes but I just don't know whether to sign Fuglsang or Coppel. I would sign Fuglsang because he has a better mountain rating (76 vs 75) and he's cheaper (15000 vs 18000). On the other hand, I'd take Coppel just because he's younger (26 vs 27).
 
Lachi
The price somewhat indicates the potential of a young rider. If both riders have similar age and stats, then the expensive rider should have more potential.

But anyway, the only way to find the potential is looking into the save of your career.
 
sammyt93
Stijn96 wrote:
cunego59 wrote:
If you really want to know, you can always look in the editor (DYN_cyclist -> limits). Although I personally think that it's also a fun part of the game not to know those kinds of things and be surprised or disappointed at times as well. But that's of course up to you Wink


Yes but I just don't know whether to sign Fuglsang or Coppel. I would sign Fuglsang because he has a better mountain rating (76 vs 75) and he's cheaper (15000 vs 18000). On the other hand, I'd take Coppel just because he's younger (26 vs 27).


personally I'd go for Coppel because he's another frenchman so fits your team better and I'd expect them both to have similar potentials in terms of maountain stats. The price difference leads me to believe that Coppel might be a little more rounded when he's reached his potential then Fuglsang but it's more likely that it's an indication of their roles on their current teams.
 
Blueprint
Doesn't fame play a role too in the salary that they want? Anyway, for a French team, Coppel would be the one to go for.

I dropped my Flaminia career for a full-blown Italian experience with Bardiani. Talented young squad, many cool races to ride (we're doing the full Italian calendar with only a handful of other races) and Francesco Bongiorno is one of my personal favourites.
 
Stijn96
I played a bit Yesterday evening. I had decided to take Coppel, then I offered him 16000 euros instead of 18000 (per month) for 2 years. Unfortunately, Omega Pharma-Quickstep signed him. Sky had just re-signed Porte, so I had to try to get Fuglsang.
I finally made it: 2-years contract @14000 euros. It's very cheap, so I'm quite satisfied, even though I would have preffered Coppel! Wink
Edited by Stijn96 on 29-08-2013 11:09
 
Stijn96
Just started season 2, I have some interesting, Young and cheap riders on my team.
Fuglsang is now at 77 mountain and he has one more point of potential
I won Tour of Malaysia and finished 3rd in Vuelta Ciclistica a Cataluna with him behind A.Schleck and Wiggins
Edited by Stijn96 on 01-09-2013 10:29
 
Shonak
I'm still in season 6 (I think) and right now racing the TdF. It seems to be like I have the... issue, Blueprint mentioned earlier. Riders stay in a pack the whole way up to the Mountain Stage. Many try to attack but Froome/Sky constantly pull them back in, and the only time differences amongst the top 6-7 only occur on the last 1 km when they start to sprint. This is the first time this is "happening", although the Giro this season was already a bit like that. However, now that everbody is in top shape there doesn't seem to be much difference. I truly hope that this is just a one-time occurence during the Tour (maybe it's the stages, who knows) and MTO stages get a bit more exciting in the last week.
Edited by Shonak on 08-09-2013 10:52
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Blueprint
Shonak wrote:
I'm still in season 6 (I think) and right now racing the TdF. It seems to be like I have the... issue, Blueprint mentioned earlier. Riders stay in a pack the whole way up to the Mountain Stage. Many try to attack but Froome/Sky constantly pull them back in, and the only time differences amongst the top 6-7 only occur on the last 1 km when they start to sprint. This is the first time this is "happening", although the Giro this season was already a bit like that. However, now that everbody is in top shape there doesn't seem to be much difference. I truly hope that this is just a one-time occurence during the Tour (maybe it's the stages, who knows) and MTO stages get a bit more exciting in the last week.


Maybe the Resistance stat got up too high, can you check that one for the main GC riders in your savegame? They should be somewhere between 70 and 76, definitely not higher.

I restarted with Astana myself, this time with Nibali aiming for the Tour de France, instead of Giro and Vuelta. It will be tough, but the parcours should suit him well. Also, next year, the sponsor contract runs out, so it will be better to have a more or less guaranteed Giro victory in 2014.

Season highlights so far include winning Tour Down Under (as usual a 1-2 with Iglinskiy & Gasparotto), Tirreno-Adriatico (Nibali), Gent-Wevelgem (Bozic with a mighty sprint), Pais Vasco (Iglinskiy) and the Amstel Gold Race (Gasparotto). I was less happy about Paris-Nice (8th with Fuglsang), Milano-Sanremo (attacks on Poggio failed this time, so had to settle for 6th with Bozic) and Romandie (Brajkovic not even in the top-10). Mixed feelings about Liege-Bastogne-Liege, where Gasparotto and Iglinskiy ended on the podium behind winner Gilbert.

Currently riding the Giro, where Astana turned the first hilly stage into a true apocalypse by taking advantage of the wind. Things were looking really good for Brajkovic in a group of 30, but unfortunately a second group with guys like Scarponi, Hesjedal and Van Garderen managed to come back in the uphill part. Still got Basso down for 6 minutes though and some outsiders lost time too, so Brajkovic did a good job for his top-10 GC target.
 
Shonak
Actually the problem resolved itself. The following stages were all back to "normal", whilst Froome still dominated in the same way, it was much earlier now.

Does resistance determine how good other riders can keep up with an attack? If that's the case I check it in Lachis editor. There is definitely a lack of "impact" on many MTO stages. Riders lose way too much energy compared to the time/meter gap they gain.
I actually edited some stats for the first time a few days before, although I didn't change any of my own rider stats. Mostly I just increased the Age of Decline for some famous, "enemy" riders in my career (Froome, Nibali, Pinot, Terpstra and so forth) to have enough and stiff competition the coming seasons.

Seasonwise: Things are looking good. As usual. Breschel won later Vattenfall Cyclassics and San Sebastian. He should be in tremendous form for the WC. Sagan injured. I hired a talent, whose potential is completely through the roof (at least for once the scouts did their job good) and managed to sign Degenkolb. So I have now two sprinter-captains. I see the slight transition from a once pure GC-squad to a specialization on One-Day Classics, One Week-Races & GT stages. I'd have loved to sign Tony Martin but he always signs a few days before transfer window opens with his old team...

Actually, another question, as usual: What excatly do I have to change to make ExxonMobil (once Omega Pharma) a belgian team? Do I have to change sponsor nationality, something in the team sheets? Now that Lotto Belisol (Team Dexia-Telenet) look to fall out of UCI World Tour, I think it's important to have a belgian team still in the race. There are way too many american sponsors anyway.
Edited by Shonak on 09-09-2013 11:59
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Blueprint
Resistance is related to the yellow bar. The higher it is, the slower the yellow drops and the longer a rider can deliver a high power output. It's not about attacking (therefore you need acceleration, red bar), but about keeping up and closing gaps at a high pace. Simply put: good climbers with high resistance are damn hard to drop. So better check your savegame with Lachis Editor.

If you want ExxonMobil to be Belgian, the best way to go is changing the sponsor's nationality in the off-season, so before the new season kicks in. Another reason why I tweaked so many things in my own variation of PCM.Daily database: creating more balance in nationalities of top sponsors, instead of just letting the big American companies dominate the cycling world. What you could also do, is changing the sponsor contract from ExxonMobil to a Belgian sponsor without a team. This requires some tweaking of DYN_Team and DYN_Sponsor if I remember correctly.
 
Shonak
I see, thanks mate. I looked up the Resistance stats. Nibali, Kelderman, Pinot and Froome and some others have have over 76. Schleck has 76, thus I will decrease it accordingly too. I will make a back-up though. However, I noticed that Resistance must be important for Time Trial as Velits, Boom and others are over 76? Can I edit the whole bunch of rider without messing up Time Trials as they are? If I edit Kelderman it's obvious that I have to edit all other riders too to keep the time trials at least interesting.

Most importantly: By how much shall I decrease? A quick sample: Boom 84, Velits 82, Kelderman 80, Nibali 78, Froome 77, Pinot 77, Schleck 76 (my team), Breschel 76 (team), Cavendish 76, Terpsta 75, Sagan 75 (team)
Everyone over 76 gets 76 or shall I decrease accordingly or in more variant steps (more stat deduction for GT/MTO riders, less for pure Time Trialists and Sprinters?)

I suppose for Nibali and Kelderman I could rise their MTO stats as a way of compensating.
Is there also any way of limiting Resistance in the future for generated riders?
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Blueprint
For generated riders, you can use my XML files, see this post: https://pcmdaily.c...ost_692880

Not sure if it works with ongoing careers though, although I assume it will be used from the start of your next season.

I don't know exactly how to proceed with lowering the resistance stats, but you could just drop the top ones to 76 and lower the rest a little bit too. Might be quite some work though, especially as you will also need to adjust their resistance limits to prevent them from bouncing back up.
 
Shonak
Thanks mate. Yes, it might end up as a bit of a "devl in the details" but I hopei it's worth it if Grand Tours and MTO stages get more interesting that way.
Also thank you for the XML files. Smile

Another issue, though: Since the end of this season's Tour de France (season 6) the game crashes a lot. Sometimes every 5 minutes, sometimes it takes 2 hours, depends. It actually started around the start of Vuelta Burgos and it keeps happening up until now (Lombardia). This is weird as it hasn't happen before in such a repeated, constant order. Any ideas guys how to fix this?
It usually happens while stages, in which I am not included, simulate or sometimes just when I'm in the team menu, like when I look at UCI rankings of past years or so. Races and normal quick simulation seem to work though. I could imagine there's somewhere a data or so that causes this crashes, but I am no expert in such things so I really don't have much of an idea. I play on a Laptop, Windows 7 and usually let my iTunes run together with the game because I like to listen to music. However, I have done this all the time and I find it weird that this issue comes forward now and I doubt that this has particularly something to do with iTunes or my Laptop but rather the game itself (but I could be wrong too).
Edited by Shonak on 10-09-2013 13:48
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Blueprint
How large is the .cdb file of your savegame?
 
Shonak
3.503 kb. You think that's the reason, too much loading?
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Blueprint
Could be, I'm not sure. I should really stop tweaking my DB all the time and start playing a long career someday Wink
 
Shonak
For me it's more fun but seeing as the game more or less falls apart, it becomes all very frustrating.

Just searched a bit through the technical issue forum and this guy had the same problem as I do. https://pcmdaily.c...d_id=24034
(Basically) the same issues. Really wonder if this is more a problem of my laptop, of the DB, the game itself or whatever. And how to fix it. By the way, the crashes don't occur during off-season although the season transition on Dec 31 crashed 3 times while the third time it did load fully. I think it might has something to do with simulated stages and the loading screen itself but the crashes occur quite irregular I'd say so I can't say for sure.
Edited by Shonak on 11-09-2013 01:23
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