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General Career Discussion 2013
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 29-09-2013 22:07
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Hi All - I am a noob planning a career to start when the expansion pack is out. I bought PCM 13 this July and have run a career for 2.5 years on Normal difficulty to get to know the game. A BIG thankyou to PCM Daily for all the great info, I would have given up but for this forum.
Here is the lowdown. Any feedback welcome.
| Database | PCM Daily Expansion Pack | | Difficulty | Hard | | Development of attributes | 0.4 | | Random potential | No |
I was trying to think of a unique 'angle' for a career and realised I am unique, so my team will be based on my family 'diaspora'. My sister's research has found the Florin family name is from Wollonia and they migrated to Sweden in the 17th century. From Sweden they went to the UK and USA, marrying Poles along the way.
So my team will only have riders from Belgium, Sweden, UK, USA & Poland.
The team will be sponsored by Chimay who by an amazing coincidence have decided to expand into those countries ;-) (and I really like their beer). The team will be called Chimay Golden Lions, after the 'Golden Lion' coin minted for the United States of Belgium in 1790 which was worth 14 Florins (and so the team will start off with 14 riders).
Chimay Golden Lions will be a development team of young riders starting in the Continental division. The ambition is to make the Pro Tour within 4 seasons and then assess what we can go for based on what talent the riders have developed.
The rules for forming the Chimay Golden Lions to make the team realistic and challenging (hopefully not too challlenging!)
• Each nation has 1 leader max average 72
• Each nation has 1 rider with an average under 70
• Max rider budget 50k
• Sponsor rider percentages - Belgium 25%, UK & USA 15%, Sweden & Poland 10%
Provisional squad pending the expansion pack.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-09-2013 06:34
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Well, that's certainly a different idea 
If you enjoy it, then it's great 
Though for a CT team, it might be a bit strong and focussed on a bit too many nationalities, I'd drop the Polish nationality for instance.
Also, for a CT team, 73/74 MO, 73COB and so many puncheurs is just too strong.
So I'd recommend letting guys like Edmondson, Craddock, De Bie, Stuyven etc. lead(they're big talents, but notthat good yet) and build a team of talents, but not toptalents, around them.
But allright, that's just my opinion
It's just that you have some riders who could already handle PCT or some even WT, so too strong.
Butthe idea is creative, have fun
I bet this thread will get a lot more active again when the Daily DB is out, btw
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
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| duckman |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:11
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Just started a game using FCD database using Orica Greenedge..
won the Aus title with Stuart O'Grady.....
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| vismitananda |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:26
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duckman wrote:
Just started a game using FCD database using Orica Greenedge..
won the Aus title with Stuart O'Grady.....
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I feel dirty!
I feel you mate.
-Pain is temporary, Quitting lasts forever-
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:56
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Jesleyh wrote:
Well, that's certainly a different idea
If you enjoy it, then it's great
Though for a CT team, it might be a bit strong and focussed on a bit too many nationalities, I'd drop the Polish nationality for instance.
Also, for a CT team, 73/74 MO, 73COB and so many puncheurs is just too strong.
So I'd recommend letting guys like Edmondson, Craddock, De Bie, Stuyven etc. lead(they're big talents, but notthat good yet) and build a team of talents, but not toptalents, around them.
But allright, that's just my opinion
It's just that you have some riders who could already handle PCT or some even WT, so too strong.
Butthe idea is creative, have fun
I bet this thread will get a lot more active again when the Daily DB is out, btw
Hi Jesleyh,
Thanks very much for your feedback - I will take it on board and drop the stongest riders and reduce down to 4 nations. I am a bit nervous about being able to cut it at hard difficulty level but I do want a genuine challenge.
I thought the thread might get busy soon so got in early 
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-09-2013 10:12
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Well, it might be harder, but if you for example would drop your 4 best riders (and replace them for helpers), you would still be able to get a lot of wins(considering 72/73 in a stat is the strongest from CT teams most of the time), especially in .2 races. In my opinion, a weaker team is fun, since you get a lot of satisfaction from small results. Also, if you have some big talents, they'll probably have developed next season, bringing you even more wins, so that's allright
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 30-09-2013 22:08
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Here are my revised rules for forming the Chimay Golden Lions at a realistic level for a Continental team following Jesleyh's advice, and a provisional team list.
• 4 nations Belgium, UK, USA & Sweden (sorry no Poland)
• Each nation has 1 leader max average 71
Stuyven, Edmonson, Craddock, Ahlstrand
• Each nation has 1 rider with an average 69/68
De Bie,Holmes,Mannion, F Ludvigsson
• Each nation has 1 rider with an average 66/65
De Buyst, T Kennaugh, Jones, Lindau
• 2 riders from any of the 4 nations max average 68
Lampaert, Stenuit
• Max rider budget 50k
• Sponsor rider percentages - Belgium 30%, UK, USA, Sweden 15%
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| nacho63 |
Posted on 30-09-2013 22:20
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How big should a strong CT team be? looking too have 2 maybe 3 young stars and older teammates |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 01-10-2013 05:57
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Looks nice Dave
@Nacho
2/3 good talents is allright indeed, you can of course add some smaller talents as well
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| Elch |
Posted on 01-10-2013 12:12
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Created a german speaking (Germany, Austria, Swiss, Luxembourg) Team of free agents and talents. It's a bit too strong with the likes of Gerdemann, Dillier and some awesome young guns, but this might lead to some intresting struggles in the ProTour after consecutive promotions.
First minor flaw: My future sprinting sensation won't extend his contract. (Won't use the editor, but will try to get him back later ) |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 02-10-2013 11:38
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Got around to installing the game on my work laptop, works 5 times faster. (stage takes only 1 minute to load, not 5 minutes, wow), and installed Daily database, incredible stuff.
Add the fact that I started a career but no story (which I usually almost never do), I advance faster than ever before.
Got quite a talent at Lotto-Belisol, Rodriguez type. In his first year he won a stage in Oman (hilly), the Belgian NC (hilly) and an Italian 1.1 race. Came in 10th in the WC.
Have a feeling I should keep him and he'll give Lotto a WC jersey next year or the year after. Evolved from 73 MO to 78 in one season, his first! |
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 03-10-2013 21:19
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I'm trying to decide what to play when the PCM DB comes out. I've not played past one season yet due to lack of routes (as i'm too lazy to individually add the races one by one XD).
I'm thinking I might make a Colombian WT team, probably with some other South American and US riders (since that would make logical sense sponsor wise I think). Picking the top end is hard though. Betancur, Quintana, Uran and Henao is probably overkill XD. Especially as the first two will probably get stat boosts compared to where they are now (well, on the original DBs, might have got modded in the new official DB but i'm still running on old saves atm. |
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| nacho63 |
Posted on 03-10-2013 21:31
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You maybe fine to include Henao though, getting 76/78 MO/HI in new DB |
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| BritPCMFan |
Posted on 03-10-2013 22:04
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Stagiare
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That seems fair. The other three are probably all going to be GT winner tier though and 3 is overkill XD. Prolly take Bet and Quin so as not to steal both Sky's riders (although I think they could probably cope with the loss XD).
America's based squad is gonna suck balls on cobbles though lol. Paris-Nice will be fun! Maybe I'll nab Phinney for that. Handy for TTT's in GTs too XD |
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 03-10-2013 22:43
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BritPCMFan wrote:
That seems fair. The other three are probably all going to be GT winner tier though and 3 is overkill XD. Prolly take Bet and Quin so as not to steal both Sky's riders (although I think they could probably cope with the loss XD).
America's based squad is gonna suck balls on cobbles though lol. Paris-Nice will be fun! Maybe I'll nab Phinney for that. Handy for TTT's in GTs too XD
unless you go for Colombian and Spanish riders (they were founded by spain so makes sense in that regard), could have a declining Flecha as your cobbles captain then look to find someone to replace him from the youth ranks.
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 04-10-2013 04:02
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Arrrrgghhhhhhhh.
Giro, 20th stage, over 3 min GC lead with Inigo Vinaspre our young Spanish climbing star
Mountainous stage but the team is well in control with 20k to ride, one short, flat stage left.
So basically we have it won, right.
Nope, suddenly Vinaspre just stops. A short while later I get the dreaded "Vinaspre can not keep up and has abandoned"
This is PCM 11 where it does that, no crash is shown they just abandon when they are injured. Not sure if they have changed that. After the race it turns out he has a broken wrist.
Guess I have to move on but a new game innovation is on my wish list, a "have rider continue with broken wrist option" Only had to ride about 120 KM, he could have done it right? |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 04-10-2013 04:30
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I could never live with that shit. Restart it'd be for me.
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 04-10-2013 05:09
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cio93 wrote:
I could never live with that shit. Restart it'd be for me.
Tempting but don't think I could enjoy the victory if I did that. This is possible, if it was something impossible like you lost 5 minutes because of the narrow road bug I would restart. |
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| Conardo |
Posted on 05-10-2013 18:03
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How can i make an own team e.g. 100% flandrian?
... or semi flandrian and luxombourgian... etc....
Edited by Conardo on 05-10-2013 18:30
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| nacho63 |
Posted on 05-10-2013 18:14
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Ahh man that sucks, i'm on the verge of winning the Vuelta myself, my first ever grand tour win on PCM  |
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