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Stricter Activity Disbands
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| Heine |
Posted on 05-12-2025 05:46
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I think the game had a small downhill trajectory even the last time I played, and it seems to just have continued. As someone have stated forums and forum games are dying, it's a too slow for the coming generations. Just look at the average age of us players... When I started my first time pretty much none of us had kids or wifes or anything...
At the same time the game is made for forums, made for spreadsheet nerds and made for a pretty niche community so we will both need to find ways to recruit poeple and find a format where poeple are more likely to engage. Without me having any mayor suggestions for how. I like jt's suggestion about trying to do some race discussions on discord. There was a discussion the other day on discord about spoilers, could there be a way to make both a discord chat and a discussion thread with a link to the spesific chat?
We also need to find ways to recruit new, active, managers. Let's be brutally honest, PCMDaily is dead, the only reason this forum even has any activity are us. How can we find new, active managers and reporters then? We should be on the search for a new home, but it should be somewhere where we can join an already thriving community where we can join them, and they can join us in my opinion. Consilidate where we can move the game, maybe develop it further, and at the same time find new players.
Then down to activity. I started reporting this year and the number of replies etc dosen't really bother me. Might be because I am fairly new to it. What I find sad however is as KB posted the number of managers who are just not present, we are a small game and community and we need everyone and we need activity to make it fun for everyone. To be honest I would rather have 2 active divisions, that would also mean less work for the admins and reporters. That is something I believe should be strongly considered going into next offseason
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| SotD |
Posted on 05-12-2025 13:10
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As I have Said in the past - and to further Heines remark about 2 divisions - I think it’s more important to enhance the activity among the active, rather than trying to revive something dead.
Those managers who regularly dissapear Only to commit 1-2-3 times during a season, spamming old race threads to the top, is a lost cause. A few might be reasonable, but most will continue like this for a period of time (1-2-3-4 seasons) and then stop anyway.
What kills my motivation is the period of time between races in which I am involved. I have now actively tried to Pick bands so I don’t have too Long downtime, but it shouldn’t be a choice. It should come automatically, that no one goes a week without being in a race.
To cut the CT would be one Way of narrowing things, if we are already having trouble finding enough active members.
Another suggestion could be amateur/development/U23 teams, to enhance manager involvement. We have had that before and tbh I found those to be quite enjoyable, as you could scrap your RP focus and try something completely different.
A final suggestion could be to plan for the first half of the season first, and then plan for the second half 1 month or so before the first race in the final half. This would help active managers gain an advantage over dissapearing managers, so we get those relegated instead of the active ones.
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 05-12-2025 14:09
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I agree that we need a new home.
- Discord for communication
- A custom built open source web app for administration
The transfer portal was a first step in the right direction.
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 08-12-2025 10:15
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When I was still able to report I was definitely also not happy with the (big) number of manager simply not replying. Breaking up the calendar deadlines (like 4 in a season) is a way to keep people a bit more engaged, but definitely makes reporting and the stuff around it more challenging as well.
The constant whining about everything also is very discouraging both as a reporter and participant, at least for me. Would be nice if people could realize they can't win every race and not every detail of the game can be exactly how they'd like it to be.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 11-12-2025 20:30
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Catching up on the above discussion and I agree with a lot of what has been said.
We used to be able to rely on an influx of new managers each year, and now that unfortunately isn't realistic for a variety of reasons. When you account for returnees (Heine, jt, Booker etc), over half of the current managers have been around for at least 10 seasons, and around 75% for at least 5. While we should of course be glad people are sticking around, it just shows how hard recruiting and retaining new managers has been.
That in turn means that we've been more accepting of inactivity than we used to be, as we want to keep roughly the same number of teams. While there were good reasons for stopping managers having two teams when we did, do we need to consider whether that would offer a solution? If we want to have (for example) 60 teams, is it preferable to have 60 managers with 20 inactive, or 40 active managers with some having 2 teams?
The other knock on effect from a lack of activity is on reporting. We've generally not wanted managers reporting races their own team is in except in a special circumstances. However, if we cut the number of managers that becomes more challenging, and we're finding currently that it is becoming unavoidable in order to stay on schedule. Potentially that is something to reconsider going forward? |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 13-12-2025 14:18
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Big thanks to kb for starting the analysis for the season. I have not been able to work on stuff like this despite wanting to have an update at the end of March racing.
I think most of the points on my mind have been covered here. With respect to this, and the possible game modifications from next season, putting up some thoughts in the suggestions thread.
Will try do a deeper dive into manager activity soon as well.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 17-12-2025 12:12
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A deeper dive into manager activity, keeping in mind that the season started on 3rd October:
The following manager has been inactive for >3 months:
SportingNonsense (no update)
The following managers have been inactive for >1 month (in reverse order of last activity, first manager on the list being inactive for the longest):
Nisky147 (health issues)
liefwarrior (no update)
cio93 (no update)
MacC (no update)
2kignacio2020 (personal issues)
Fabianski (possible disband)
The following managers have been inactive for almost a month:
TheUlamog (no update)
tastasol (family commitments)
The following managers are active on daily but have very limited comments:
djorzen (has mentioned that he will try to improve)
Jajajasper (no update)
Radio00 (has mentioned that he will try to improve)
Ezeefreak (no update)
Managers with genuine concerns that have been reported are not going to be in disband trouble, but for the rest, this is an early warning to please improve your activity on MG, starting with race discussion threads and whatever else interests you. This holds doubly for repeat offenders from the past seasons.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 05-03-2026 06:49
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An update on the situation with activity disbands, with more than 6 months of racing done in the MG 2026 season.
Possible Disband
MacC (as informed)
Multi-season inactivity disband
SportingNonsense
cio93
2kignacio2020
Needs improvement
Radio00
djorzen
Nisky147
tinxias
liefwarrior
Almost out of trouble
Jajajasper
Another update will follow before the end of the season, so there's till time for those on the list to improve their activity.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 13-04-2026 10:04
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August racing is done and just a couple of changes from the last update:
Possible Disband
MacC (as informed)
Multi-season inactivity disband
SportingNonsense
cio93
2kignacio2020
Needs improvement
Radio00
djorzen
Nisky147
liefwarrior
No improvement from any of the three managers in the second group. Not looking good for them now.
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| seancoll |
Posted on 13-04-2026 23:56
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Thankful for the updates - am always a bit more understanding of new managers, but hopeful to see them continue and show a bit more interest. Can't remember if any nominated their riders for Avenir, which is a big deal to me for keeping continued participation.
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| TinxiaS |
Posted on 14-04-2026 08:45
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Hi,
I can see that I’m mention in no activity in the manager game.
About the game I can thank all the team that is working behind from doing previews, reports to and all even more things that some of us can’t see it.
I know you only want to encourage people to be more involved in the game and sometimes I write some comment on some race report or preview.
Have in mind that some of use are really battling behind a screen with real problems.
Majority of players here doesn’t know that I’m party in depression even that doctors said I’m not.
This is not one day thing you could see it in one of my comment in discord between FA in June to August when I had enough of bad and sad comments on my mountain leader.
I’m battling this for number of years but with all the worries that I have I’m not sure how will go on and I hope much positively.
Have in mind that my depression come form many things and one is to listen all the transphobia on social media,news and all around. It’s not easy to list on Trump, Musk, J.K.Rowlling. Orban,... and many other who are just targeting us because they think they can own a world and they don’t care on our feelings. Yes we are humans too as everyone else and yes we have feelings too.
Probably you don’t know what is partly even deeper my ‘’depression’’ but my youngest sister almost took her life and I basically shot myself down for a few days and went to the sick leave as I couldn’t cope with it.
And listen to customers on a phone call everyday who are annoying an then they go with transphobic comments on you and you can defence your self otherwise you would here from boss.
Yeah it’s not easy.
I’m trying I’m comment on a few races per year and if I don’t get interaction of course I lose interest in comments and I’m commenting less.
All of us are having problems some are coping with them easyer some of use harder but with exposing us like this it won’t help MG game and even not mee as it will maybe even deppen the struggle that I have it.
Please have this in mind but still I want to thank you for everyone who is working behind the game and usually I’mm every day or at least a few times per week online as this is one of the things cycling and sports LGBTIQ+ events and friend with family that are lower my struggle.
Thanks,
Tinxia
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 14-04-2026 09:21
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@Tinxias: You are already off the latest list posted on yesterday.
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| Heine |
Posted on 14-04-2026 09:36
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I will never dare to say I understand depression or other struggles that poeple got as I have not experienced it myself, but I support you TinxiaS. And I sincerely believe we all do, this game is supposed to be a free zone! It is for me, thought that is mostly a free zone from work, wife and kids and nothing really serious 
I do believe however that we need to have an overview, both as a reminder but also for the admin team to be transparent. There has been questions earlier about why some managers has gotten a longer leash and I like that we now can see and they get a clear warning. I am also pretty sure that a message to Abhi with a quick explantation would help a lot, and most likely get removed from consideration
Other than that on the climber/Padun question, can't remember if I was one of the poeple having fun with his wage I will just explain that if I was it was pure banter from my side based on a former relationship with Fjhokie (see also how I have made fun of Zepuntke for his results under me and naming him a perennial underachiever). One of my highlights of the season has been how he did in TDF and in general how he has scored good points for you! I really, really hope that I have not made comments that in any way has hurt, thought I know from real life my humour might at times be seen as worse than I believe myself.
I am glad you are off the list, and really hope to talk with you in the future in the game! I can't remember that we did last transfers, but maybe this transfer?
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