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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 20-08-2014 21:09
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| Silvio Herklotz |
Posted on 20-08-2014 21:29
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Jonathan Vaughters officially declared that Cannondale and Garmin will merge.
Garmin is going to be the main sponsor of the new team, while Cannondale will be second title sponsor and equipment sponsor.
Unfortunately, he said nothing about which riders from both teams will make the new roster for 2015.
Source: https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sp..._89305.htm
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| depeche92 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 21:37
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Silvio Herklotz wrote:
Jonathan Vaughters officially declared that Cannondale and Garmin will merge.
Garmin is going to be the main sponsor of the new team, while Cannondale will be second title sponsor and equipment sponsor.
Unfortunately, he said nothing about which riders from both teams will make the new roster for 2015.
Source: https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sp..._89305.htm
Actually he did(14 from Garmin + 8 from Cannondale), and the name is Team Cannondale
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| TankNL |
Posted on 20-08-2014 21:42
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depeche92 wrote:
Silvio Herklotz wrote:
Jonathan Vaughters officially declared that Cannondale and Garmin will merge.
Garmin is going to be the main sponsor of the new team, while Cannondale will be second title sponsor and equipment sponsor.
Unfortunately, he said nothing about which riders from both teams will make the new roster for 2015.
Source: https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sp..._89305.htm
Actually he did(14 from Garmin + 8 from Cannondale), and the name is Team Cannondale
https://velonews.c...hip_341719
another link;
https://www.cyclin...s-for-2015 |
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| Silvio Herklotz |
Posted on 20-08-2014 21:48
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sorry, you obviously have better sources 
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 21:50
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Everything about that sounds good except for the green argyle. I really like Cannondale as a bike maker. Their headquarters are 20 minutes from my house. But green Argyle? Why isn't Garmin staying the title sponsor.
It's definitely something to get used to. Also a lot of Garmin riders are without a contract now...
One of them is Farrar 
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| Anderis |
Posted on 20-08-2014 21:52
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LOL, just asked for some news and got them.
I'm unhappy with guys like Marangoni making it to the roster, though. There are many Garmin guys I would rather have than him and they will be gone.
Of course it all sucks, because the new team doesn't appear to be as cool as the old one for me. But cycling teams don't remain the same forever, unfortunately.
One big advantage football has over cycling, that your favourite team will most likely remain it's name and colours forever.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 22:03
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Yeah, after so many years, this is a hard hit to take.
Still 8 roster spots open though, so it will be interesting to see who they resign from Garmin or get on the market.
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| Naskela |
Posted on 20-08-2014 22:04
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Everything about that sounds good except for the green argyle. I really like Cannondale as a bike maker. Their headquarters are 20 minutes from my house. But green Argyle? Why isn't Garmin staying the title sponsor.
It's definitely something to get used to. Also a lot of Garmin riders are without a contract now...
One of them is Farrar
They have no need for Farrar when they have Navardauskas and Viviani for the next season. I didn't like Garmin that much because they had two many outdated riders this season so looking better with Villella and Formolo (two great additions) But i hope they extend with Acevedo.
Edited by Naskela on 20-08-2014 22:08
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 22:08
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Naskela wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Everything about that sounds good except for the green argyle. I really like Cannondale as a bike maker. Their headquarters are 20 minutes from my house. But green Argyle? Why isn't Garmin staying the title sponsor.
It's definitely something to get used to. Also a lot of Garmin riders are without a contract now...
One of them is Farrar
They have no need for Farrar when they have Navardauskas and Viviani for the next season. I didn't like Garmin that much because they had two many outdated riders this season so looking better with Villella and Formolo (two great additions)
I still don't think Navardauskus is a pure sprinter, but of course they can work in sprints.
But don't forget about Farrar's classics season. it was really good this year and he frequently was placing better than Langeveld who is the team leader.
I just am disappointed that America no longer has a sprinter to contest.
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| Naskela |
Posted on 20-08-2014 22:10
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Naskela wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Everything about that sounds good except for the green argyle. I really like Cannondale as a bike maker. Their headquarters are 20 minutes from my house. But green Argyle? Why isn't Garmin staying the title sponsor.
It's definitely something to get used to. Also a lot of Garmin riders are without a contract now...
One of them is Farrar
They have no need for Farrar when they have Navardauskas and Viviani for the next season. I didn't like Garmin that much because they had two many outdated riders this season so looking better with Villella and Formolo (two great additions)
I still don't think Navardauskus is a pure sprinter, but of course they can work in sprints.
But don't forget about Farrar's classics season. it was really good this year and he frequently was placing better than Langeveld who is the team leader.
I just am disappointed that America no longer has a sprinter to contest.
I would consider a sprinter who managed to be third on champs a pure sprinter or at least he is about to become one. He have some great results this year and only option for Farrar would be to be a leadout sprinter if he extend so in my opinion its better if he goes to a team where he could go for his own chances!
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 22:11
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Naskela wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Everything about that sounds good except for the green argyle. I really like Cannondale as a bike maker. Their headquarters are 20 minutes from my house. But green Argyle? Why isn't Garmin staying the title sponsor.
It's definitely something to get used to. Also a lot of Garmin riders are without a contract now...
One of them is Farrar
They have no need for Farrar when they have Navardauskas and Viviani for the next season. I didn't like Garmin that much because they had two many outdated riders this season so looking better with Villella and Formolo (two great additions)
Dont forget Mohoric and Moser if they sign as well. I really do think this improves the team this move, but at the same time, its almost too much change for one of my favourite teams, and one that has probably had the most charisma atleast here in North America. Not to mention I've been a big fan of almost all their sponsors Chipotle especially.
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| Anderis |
Posted on 20-08-2014 22:13
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Naskela wrote:
They have no need for Farrar when they have Navardauskas and Viviani for the next season. I didn't like Garmin that much because they had two many outdated riders this season so looking better with Villella and Formolo (two great additions)
I don't think Viviani and Navardauskas can secure all that Farrar could. Tyler is infinetely more succesfull in securing results at some cobbled-sprint classics. Navardauskas did nothing on cobbles since he had became a pro and Viviani is not really a guy who carse for doing well on cobbles as well.
And mind you, Farrar is still the highest classified Garmin's rider in PCS ranking.
I also don't think there are many outdated riders in this seasons' Garmin roster. Millar is the one and Farrar may be another (but as stated above, he is still one of the most consistent performer of the team). But who else? Danielson is quite old, but not outdated for sure, he is still securing important wins for Garmin in USA. Hesjedal may look a bit outdated but still secures top10 in GTs. And barring the four, Garmin has one of the younger rosters in WT this year. |
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| Naskela |
Posted on 20-08-2014 22:20
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Anderis wrote:
Naskela wrote:
They have no need for Farrar when they have Navardauskas and Viviani for the next season. I didn't like Garmin that much because they had two many outdated riders this season so looking better with Villella and Formolo (two great additions)
I don't think Viviani and Navardauskas can secure all that Farrar could. Tyler is infinetely more succesfull in securing results at some cobbled-sprint classics. Navardauskas did nothing on cobbles since he had became a pro and Viviani is not really a guy who carse for doing well on cobbles as well.
And mind you, Farrar is still the highest classified Garmin's rider in PCS ranking.
I also don't think there are many outdated riders in this seasons' Garmin roster. Millar is the one and Farrar may be another (but as stated above, he is still one of the most consistent performer of the team). But who else? Danielson is quite old, but not outdated for sure, he is still securing important wins for Garmin in USA. Hesjedal may look a bit outdated but still secures top10 in GTs. And barring the four, Garmin has one of the younger rosters in WT this year.
Wegmann, Nuyens, Vansummeren are all past their best too but i was perhaps a bit harsh on Farrar, he is a good rider indeed but in a pure sprint i don't think he can match those two others i mentioned.
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Posted on 20-08-2014 22:53
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I don't think Vansummeren is outdated, he was really strong on this year's TdF, especially on that cobbled stage, but not only.
About Wegmann and Nuyens, I agree. Could also add Dekker, although he is not that old, I can rarely see him doing some useful work for the team, let alone securing results and he is probably not going to ever improve much.
baseballlover312 wrote:
Still 8 roster spots open though, so it will be interesting to see who they resign from Garmin or get on the market.
Only 5 spots open. The team will have 27 riders next year from what I've read. I hope they will keep Howes.
They'll also need some cobble guys, because there are not many among riders with already secured contracts. Only 5 or 6 of them I can imagine doing Roubaix, Flanders etc. on a regular basis.
Likely more Italians than Americans next year in the team. It will also contribute to loss of some of the climate.
I'm really sad because another of my favourite teams- Williams F1, has also changed to something I like much less this year, with Martini title sponsorship and livery. I was really passionate about both of them, but I already lost interest in F1. That Canondale change looks a bit more acceptable to me, but it's definetely not an improvement. I would rather have a Garmin-Canondale team with blue and green colours and Marangoni making a space for an American talent than what we will likely end up with.
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Posted on 20-08-2014 22:54
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CountArach wrote:
Van Asbroeck is in talks with BMC. I wanted him to go to Lotto but a pro contract is top priority.
Wasn't he going to Cannondale? |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 22:59
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Anderis wrote:
I don't think Vansummeren is outdated, he was really strong on this year's TdF, especially on that cobbled stage, but not only.
About Wegmann and Nuyens, I agree. Could also add Dekker, although he is not that old, I can rarely see him doing some useful work for the team, let alone securing results and he is probably not going to ever improve much.
baseballlover312 wrote:
Still 8 roster spots open though, so it will be interesting to see who they resign from Garmin or get on the market.
Only 5 spots open. The team will have 27 riders next year from what I've read. I hope they will keep Howes.
They'll also need some cobble guys, because there are not many among riders with already secured contracts. Only 5 or 6 of them I can imagine doing Roubaix, Flanders etc. on a regular basis.
Likely more Italians than Americans next year in the team. It will also contribute to loss of some of the climate.
I'm really sad because another of my favourite teams- Williams F1, has also changed to something I like much less this year, with Martini title sponsorship and livery. I was really passionate about both of them, but I already lost interest in F1. That Canondale change looks a bit more acceptable to me, but it's definetely not an improvement. I would rather have a Garmin-Canondale team with blue and green colours and Marangoni making a space for an American talent than what we will likely end up with.
Why the hell would they not fill up the 30 spots as a WT team?
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| Anderis |
Posted on 20-08-2014 23:07
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Why the hell would they not fill up the 30 spots as a WT team?
Why didn't they this year?
Additional riders cost. If they feel they don't need to have the 30 riders, better to have less and spend money in other areas. Many of WT teams don't have 30 riders.
Moreover, some changes in the WT rules are scheduled and WT teams are going to have less riders each in the future (22 form 2016 onwards AFAIK). So they need to start preparing themselves for that. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 23:09
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Anderis wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Why the hell would they not fill up the 30 spots as a WT team?
Why didn't they this year?
Additional riders cost. If they feel they don't need to have the 30 riders, better to have less and spend money in other areas. Many of WT teams don't have 30 riders.
Moreover, some changes in the WT rules are scheduled and WT teams are going to have less riders each in the future (22 form 2016 onwards AFAIK). So they need to start preparing themselves for that.
Didn't they have 29 this year though and with stagiares 31. It seems like 27 is a little low.
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| Anderis |
Posted on 20-08-2014 23:39
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They did have 29. But 29 is not 30. So they didn't go for maximum for whatever reason. As well as half of other WT teams. |
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