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| DuQuaz |
Posted on 14-05-2016 23:59
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A shame Eurovision has become become a place for politics. The parallel to today's Ukraine is too obvious. Should not happen, but there's a reason why we see it more and more in ESC..
Personally I like the song, but if you look at the song and the song only, I highly doubt anyone will see it as winner-potential. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:01
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Cant we all agree that 1) spain was the hottest and 2) the most catchy, the 2 most important things, especially number 1 |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:02
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DuQuaz wrote:
A shame Eurovision has become become a place for politics. The parallel to today's Ukraine is too obvious. Should not happen, but there's a reason why we see it more and more in ESC..
Personally I like the song, but if you look at the song and the song only, I highly doubt anyone will see it as winner-potential.
If we had played on Ukraine, we woulda applauded it, we are too transparent, but yes, agree |
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| weirdskyfan64 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:09
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Voting system definitely worked, despite the UK crashing and burning in spite of what was a good performance, and whatever the f*** happened with Poland.
Australia were praised for their vocals, but no one voted for them because they're Australian, and Europeans have small heads and minds(especially Brits).
Ukraine had a good song- it was the East and the publicity in the West (Stalin! Crimea! It's about her!) however that reality pushed it on.
No clue how they're going to host it.
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"... Because he (me) has a sound tactical mind in general..." jandal7, at 9:30 am GMT on 12th May 2016
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:10
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So many strong songs this year, great show and a song that is driven by politics wins. Very anti-climaxic although Jamala is very talented but this song had no right to win this above the likes of Australia or Bulgaria and more.
Whats next? Serbia entering next year with a song "Bring Back Kosovo"? Please.... |
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:16
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As usual, a musically rather underwhelming evening  I liked the Swedish song a lot, the understatement was a very enjoyable contrast to all the pomp and drama. Georgia was good, too, I thought. I would have hoped for both of them to do a bit better.
Other than that, not too much for me there, but we don't watch the ESC for the brillant songs anyway, do we?  Germany in last place doesn't come as too much of a surprise, we're just not able to chose the right songs and singers. I thought there were worse performances, but as usual it wasn't striking a chord with the audience.
By far the best part was the break between the songs and the voting. Love Love Peace Peace may be the funniest thing I've seen in a while, plus the comedy bits, it's great to see such self-consciousness and self-irony within an established show like the ESC. The video of Swedish music history was great, too, and well, I just love Justin Timberlake.
Also, just as a thought: The ESC itself was in its creation a political statement of uniting a war-torn Europe. "Ein bisschen Frieden" by Nicole, a wish for peace, was the song with the largest winning margin for a long time. I'm explicitly not judging whether the Ukrainian win was a vote of solidarity, a vote against Russia or maybe not politically motivated at all. But the ESC itself has never been just about the songs.
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| fbimax |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:17
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
So many strong songs this year, great show and a song that is driven by politics wins. Very anti-climaxic although Jamala is very talented but this song had no right to win this above the likes of Australia or Bulgaria and more.
Whats next? Serbia entering next year with a song "Bring Back Kosovo"? Please....
No, in next year will win russia with song "We will return crimea".
Sorry if bad english
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:20
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I won some money on Bulgaria 
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:23
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What happened to voting for the most hot women on the stage??? I dont get it............................ |
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| weirdskyfan64 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:23
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Me too.
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"... Because he (me) has a sound tactical mind in general..." jandal7, at 9:30 am GMT on 12th May 2016
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:35
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I hope Poland and Russia can come to agreement before next year to partition Ukraine, we get our lands back in the West and Russia takes the East with Kiev where they can host their Eurovision which they so badly wanted this year.
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:37
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Whats next? Serbia entering next year with a song "Bring Back Kosovo"? Please....
In opposite to Crimea and Ukraine, it's no general consensus that Kosovo and Serbia belong together, so the chances are pretty small. |
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:40
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Ste117 wrote:
lakebeach wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
My early prediction:
1. Russia
2. France
3. Bulgaria
4. Azerbaijan
5. Cyprus
6. Austria
7. Spain
8. Croatia
9. Iceland
10. Armenia
Australia has got to make the top ten.
I don't think they will there are better songs and the Eurovision honeymoon period is over Australia now
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 00:44
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Luxemburger wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
lakebeach wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
My early prediction:
1. Russia
2. France
3. Bulgaria
4. Azerbaijan
5. Cyprus
6. Austria
7. Spain
8. Croatia
9. Iceland
10. Armenia
Australia has got to make the top ten.
I don't think they will there are better songs and the Eurovision honeymoon period is over Australia now
How wrong
Don't remind me, my predictions had been pretty accurate until the final, but anything can happen in a the final
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| fbimax |
Posted on 15-05-2016 01:04
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Alakagom wrote:
I hope Poland and Russia can come to agreement before next year to partition Ukraine, we get our lands back in the West and Russia takes the East with Kiev where they can host their Eurovision which they so badly wanted this year.
I hope americans dont read it, because they will inflict sanctions on you for aggression against ukraine.
Sorry if bad english
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 01:35
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Great Britain again with the worst performance of the day...classical
Poland also surprisingly far up at the votes
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 01:46
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Russia are going to be so annoyed 1. because they threw everything at this to win it and 2. becuase Ukraine won with that kind of song. It may sound stupid that a music contest can casue this but I fear for the future. This was a statement and Russia won't like it. An even bigger statement than that of Conchita in 2014. This could have serious outcomes and consequences. In Western media Jamala pressed the issue of present day Crimea. I expect some words or even hightened tensions over Ukraine now.
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| EwanWilson |
Posted on 15-05-2016 02:06
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EwanWilson wrote:
I'm not going to make a full prediction, only a top 5, but I will expand on the losers of the night:
Results Prediction
1.  Russia
2.  Ukraine
3.  France
4.  Sweden
5.  Bulgaria
Televote Winner - Russia
Jury Winner - Ukraine
4 out of 5 in the end (France were 6th). Ultimately passion and emotion won tonight, not politics. Jamala's song was personal, not political, it is her story, the story of her great grand mother. It isn't my ideal winner, but it is thoroughly deserved tbh.
The winner of the night has to be SVT. They went into uncharted territory and it worked so well, the voting, the show, the scripting (Tack Edward af Sillén). I hope Ukraine will keep the system for 2017.
I made some money tonight thanks to Bulgaria and Germany (top 4 and last place). All in all I made a £2.50 profit over the week which isn't great.
Now with the ESC over, the DSC (AKA post-Eurovision depression surpresser) shall begin!
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 02:22
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EwanWilson wrote:
EwanWilson wrote:
I'm not going to make a full prediction, only a top 5, but I will expand on the losers of the night:
Results Prediction
1. Russia
2. Ukraine
3. France
4. Sweden
5. Bulgaria
Televote Winner - Russia
Jury Winner - Ukraine
4 out of 5 in the end (France were 6th). Ultimately passion and emotion won tonight, not politics. Jamala's song was personal, not political, it is her story, the story of her great grand mother. It isn't my ideal winner, but it is thoroughly deserved tbh.
The winner of the night has to be SVT. They went into uncharted territory and it worked so well, the voting, the show, the scripting (Tack Edward af Sillén). I hope Ukraine will keep the system for 2017.
I made some money tonight thanks to Bulgaria and Germany (top 4 and last place). All in all I made a £2.50 profit over the week which isn't great.
Now with the ESC over, the DSC (AKA post-Eurovision depression surpresser) shall begin!
I won £7.25 about £3 down on my bets, I generally thought about Ukraine on Friday but chose Italy instead because of the odds with my last £1.50 how I wish I chose Ukraine now
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 15-05-2016 02:25
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Oh and I know what you mean about post Eurovision depression I get it every year too coz I look forward to it so much listen to the songs from March onward and its over so quickly on the night. It is like really is it over already.
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