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| Aquarius |
Posted on 13-05-2011 12:20
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Yeah, but not all of TDF riders can pretend to have had a recent tumour. 
You've still got some EPO at home ? I might know some people who could be interested.   |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 13-05-2011 12:21
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BouBBox wrote:
Haha L'Equipe finally created a cycling ranking dominated by french 
This isn't created by L'Equipe. It was created by the UCI.
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 13-05-2011 12:28
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Aquarius wrote:
You've still got some EPO at home ? I might know some people who could be interested.
Nah, I took everything , but damn it is expensive! Glad we have the social security
CountArach wrote:
BouBBox wrote:
Haha L'Equipe finally created a cycling ranking dominated by french
This isn't created by L'Equipe. It was created by the UCI.
Yeah sorry I meant found a ranking xD
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 13-05-2011 12:39
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ouch for millar, worse than schleck.
Lance as a 4 - how can the uci not suspect him? oh wait...
A lot of this seems a little odd - unless the UCI know more than us - which seems unlikely.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 13-05-2011 12:44
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
ouch for millar, worse than schleck.
Lance as a 4 - how can the uci not suspect him? oh wait...
A lot of this seems a little odd - unless the UCI know more than us - which seems unlikely.
6 is almost certain doping according to CN, so 4 is still a pretty bad score
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| CountArach |
Posted on 13-05-2011 12:48
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The strangest thing for me with Armstrong is who else he is ranked with. Evans, Fedrigo, Vogondy.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 13-05-2011 12:49
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mb2612 wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
ouch for millar, worse than schleck.
Lance as a 4 - how can the uci not suspect him? oh wait...
A lot of this seems a little odd - unless the UCI know more than us - which seems unlikely.
6 is almost certain doping according to CN, so 4 is still a pretty bad score
but there are some people you would expect to be below him.
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| markene2 |
Posted on 13-05-2011 12:55
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No suprise to se Menchov and VDB up there. Quite suprised that Navarro is that low
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 13-05-2011 13:04
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Surprised to see Tony Martin with a 7..
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 13-05-2011 13:21
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I'm absolutely baffled. I have no idea how to understand this stuff. Madness |
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| roturn |
Posted on 13-05-2011 13:24
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Lance as a 4 - how can the uci not suspect him? oh wait...
An important thing most of you are missing.
It`s not the level of suspicion. Then Lance, Vinokourov etc, would be higher for sure.
It`s just the last blood pass test before the Tour. So in this test the result was like this not the suspicion at all. Probably they have other lists or at least priorities that are also important for the number of tests during the next stages.
But still I am quite surprised that riders like Gerdemann or Martin are quite suspicious in the blood pass testing.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 13-05-2011 13:43
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roturn wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Lance as a 4 - how can the uci not suspect him? oh wait...
An important thing most of you are missing.
It`s not the level of suspicion. Then Lance, Vinokourov etc, would be higher for sure.
It`s just the last blood pass test before the Tour. So in this test the result was like this not the suspicion at all. Probably they have other lists or at least priorities that are also important for the number of tests during the next stages.
But still I am quite surprised that riders like Gerdemann or Martin are quite suspicious in the blood pass testing.
No, it's their overall rating of the blood passport as of July 2010
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 13-05-2011 13:46
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Not surprised to see Barredo with 10. After what he did to Rui Costa... |
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| roturn |
Posted on 13-05-2011 13:47
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Yes, that`s what I meant, but probably explained a bit weird.
My main point was that it`s just the blood pass and nothing else. No previous doping cases or other things, that could make them suspicious. So it can`t be the only list for them. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 13-05-2011 14:09
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So, using this scale Barredo wins then. Well, 10 is bigger than 9
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| Wilier |
Posted on 13-05-2011 16:54
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Not surprised to see Barredo with 10. After what he did to Rui Costa...
Lol
I still feel kinda relieved that the dutch score pretty low. Only Kroon got a 5.
Also Cancellara got 0
I'm also surprised that some riders got high rating despite being sucky all year. Popovych, Kroon and Seeldraeyers to name a few.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 13-05-2011 17:19
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Sky and Millar quick to respond.
Sky's Wiggins received a five and Thomas a six.
"When they say G's [Thomas - ed.] ranked six, if they are using the biological passport information, that implies that G's under suspicion. From my side of things, knowing G, I'd say he's certainly not under any suspicion from the team or me. i.e., he doesn't take anything," Sky's sports director, Sean Yates told Cycling Weekly.
"It's tarnishing the reputation of riders like G, teams like us and it brings into question the whole credibility of the UCI. Sometimes there's stuff leaked, and it's crap, but you can only go by what you hear. Hearing this kind of stuff is not good, it makes us look like amateurs."
Yates said he's unsure if team principal, David Brailsford has already been in contact with the UCI about the list.
"Having that stuff leaked to the press is not good. Once again, the UCI's credibility - if this information is correct - is drawn into question."
Brit David Millar of team Garmin-Cervélo received a four.
"What is this list based on?" Millar told Cycling Weekly. "Look at some of the guys there: I can tell you for starters, I'm clean as a f***ing whistle.
"I understand if I'm number four because of all my misdemeanours in the past, done on suspicions from my past actions. The only injections I've ever had are from the UCI, so it's a bit mad that I'm a four."
"This list clearly shows it's a far from perfect model. What's going on? That's two things: the UCI, somebody, people, need to be fired for this, and a major investigation needs to be going on into what exactly they are doing regarding the biological passport, how they actually came up with this list."
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| issoisso |
Posted on 13-05-2011 18:31
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roturn wrote:
But still I am quite surprised that riders like Gerdemann or Martin are quite suspicious in the blood pass testing.
Martin, me too. Gerdemann, the only two riders in the world that would surprise me less would be Hoogerland and Terpstra
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| Kami |
Posted on 13-05-2011 18:36
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issoisso wrote:
roturn wrote:
But still I am quite surprised that riders like Gerdemann or Martin are quite suspicious in the blood pass testing.
Martin, me too. Gerdemann, the only two riders in the world that would surprise me less would be Hoogerland and Terpstra
Just out of curiosity, why Terpstra? I've heard about Hoogerland before, but haven't really heard or read anything about Terpstra.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 13-05-2011 18:40
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Radioshack as the dirtiest surprises me somewhere around zero.
That said, a lot of the values just show that this can't mean all that much. The Schlecks so low for example.
Kami wrote:
issoisso wrote:
roturn wrote:
But still I am quite surprised that riders like Gerdemann or Martin are quite suspicious in the blood pass testing.
Martin, me too. Gerdemann, the only two riders in the world that would surprise me less would be Hoogerland and Terpstra
Just out of curiosity, why Terpstra? I've heard about Hoogerland before, but haven't really heard or read anything about Terpstra.
Check your PMs.
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