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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 23-08-2007 20:58
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I have nothing against the current system, except for the fact that people bid "over their budget" in the sense that some people tend to bid on a lot of different riders without being able to pay for them all if the transfers went through. |
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Posted on 23-08-2007 20:59
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The main problem is managing ones finaces in the current system. I find it to be too chaotic.
The system encourages bidding on many riders to make sure you dont loose out ´,It encourages bidding up others prices and worstly it takes forever!
Remember this is just for the free transfers. We can still bid, steal, make offers and be greedy with the signed riders.So if you save some money and perhaps score some cheap free riders, you can then wield you big budget against the ones with the big name free riders afterwards....
Edited by zutcorp on 23-08-2007 21:01
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| stemple |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:03
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zutcorp fears buying to many guys in an auction, but that is the point. It makes you concentrate on certain targets. It makes you think about the guys you want and have a real transfer strategy. That way you can't just bid willy nilly on guys. It makes you take into account your budget, and if you don't think you can get a guy without spending over the moon then you will have to go after guys you know you can afford, and that you would be the accepted bid. But that is my opinion.
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| zutcorp |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:06
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and its more or less only a problem this first season. Since next year the vast majority of riders will be under contract and its only this year that the free transfers are so rich!
The more I think about it, perhaps we should just let this run for a a week more (after monday= and then see what the state of the market is. It may have evened out, and everything will be fine...Well see!
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| zutcorp |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:07
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stemple wrote:
zutcorp fears buying to many guys in an auction, but that is the point. It makes you concentrate on certain targets. It makes you think about the guys you want and have a real transfer strategy. That way you can't just bid willy nilly on guys. It makes you take into account your budget, and if you don't think you can get a guy without spending over the moon then you will have to go after guys you know you can afford, and that you would be the accepted bid. But that is my opinion.
See my problem isnt really buying too many, its finding the balance. Its going to be very difficult to achieve. But i guess we are going to have to try.
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| dave92 |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:09
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well CrueTrue, people simply must fill in the buget sheet each time they bid,and if they don't they should get a penalty for going over their budget, and release riders. Perhaps having to release their best riders if they go over, not release a few cheaper players. This would be a big deterrant for teams going over budget.
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| stemple |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:09
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i mean you are afraid of buying to many then going over budget
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| zutcorp |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:09
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Hehe, Methinks I think too much! But hey, disvussing the rules is almost as much fun as playing the game :-D
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| dave92 |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:10
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stemple wrote:
zutcorp fears buying to many guys in an auction, but that is the point. It makes you concentrate on certain targets. It makes you think about the guys you want and have a real transfer strategy. That way you can't just bid willy nilly on guys. It makes you take into account your budget, and if you don't think you can get a guy without spending over the moon then you will have to go after guys you know you can afford, and that you would be the accepted bid. But that is my opinion.
Great point, i totally agree
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| zutcorp |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:14
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Just one more point...argghhhh...
the problem with buying too many/few is ONLY a problem if all auctions finish around the same time. If they dont (and they shouldnt) it should be managable.
the the only downside is going to be: Will we ride another race before x-mas :-D
Now, let me sleep, goddammit ;-)
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:42
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I must say this break has been good for me. It's been possible to gain a kind of overview, and I've listed the riders (and my bids) that I want. So, I'm ready on Monday when we reopen.
Just to be sure .. the 48 hour rule doesn't apply now, right?  |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:48
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It will be as if we had started on the Monday. The 48 hour rules was paused yesterday at 21:30 brit time, and will resume with the transfers at 21:30 on monday
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:49
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And the game starts again precisely at ...? |
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| punka |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:55
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Just to add something (sorry I'm late) about silent auctions.
We could always stagger the silent auctions and order them least-to-most contested. You could space each auction one half hour apart and run it for a few hours each day. It would solve the problem of winning 30 riders at 250000 each, as you would know where you stand with each new rider.
It wouldn't solve the problem of time differences, though... |
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| Setzel |
Posted on 23-08-2007 21:58
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for Crue True to know  i will be watching the hours the last bid was and if 48 will be then the rider is taken
So dont make any problems with the 48 hours i am keepin a very close eye on them
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| Crommy |
Posted on 23-08-2007 22:22
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Ok, taking into account your comments again (which i like by the way)
The whole point of this game is to make it fun, as well as realistic, and a draft wouldn't work.
Which is why I've decided to press on with the current system, but a big warning that you really need to manage your finances - if you go over, the consequences will be very, very bad indeed.
The next session will probably only last another 24 hours, so we can see what's going on again
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| dave92 |
Posted on 23-08-2007 22:26
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i think the next session should only be stopped if absolutely neccessary, but that's your call
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 23-08-2007 22:28
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Id like the next session to gon on long enough for some free agents to be sealed by the 48 hour rule. Then again I dont want it to go on too long as both JustinWk and Smoothie will be unavailable from Monday to Thursday.
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| Balaverde |
Posted on 24-08-2007 08:35
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But very short transfer sessions could hype it up a bit instead of calming the whole thing down - as it could make people bid more actively because they would only be able to do so for a limited amount of time.
I agree that we should wait for Justin and Smoothie, but if we want to get the game rolling before December - I see the start/stop use of the transfer sessions as a problem. |
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 24-08-2007 09:20
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I think we should make a rule that only allows you to bid a certain number of times for a rider. For example 2 bids per person per rider (could be more). This would make everyone really think what they need and can afford.
Just a thought.
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