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| SotD |
Posted on 30-01-2011 20:45
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lol 2 stagewins. Never saw that coming! So I get 9th GC, 2 stagewins a 2nd place and some good Mountain and pointsplacings... I'm very pleased with that result!!!
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| SotD |
Posted on 30-01-2011 20:51
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Festina, Pearl and Vesuvio all had 200+ scores behind though - Festina as usual scoring well despite SotD's usual mid-race moaning of how pathetic they are
Have you noticed that every time I bitch about my team they turn it around to make it a good or a great race, whereas everytime I expect something publically they suck?
It's part of my supersticious ways :-) - I'm still not believing that the 3rd place is anyway near secure yet though... Pearl should overtake me after the Deutschland Tour.
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| SotD |
Posted on 30-01-2011 20:54
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dave92 wrote:
terrible race, but to be expected. As i feared i only have an outside shot at a top 3, and would require a great deal of fortune.
Nah... You'll win TONE and Chrono and that will take you to top 3 
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 30-01-2011 20:54
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Pearl would need Fothen to win Deutschland to have a chance of passing you after the race - and Fothen is hardly a model of consistency this season
And Im surprised youre so sure Dave will win TONE, that race is impossible to predict!
Edited by SportingNonsense on 30-01-2011 20:55
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 30-01-2011 20:55
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SotD wrote:
dave92 wrote:
terrible race, but to be expected. As i feared i only have an outside shot at a top 3, and would require a great deal of fortune.
Nah... You'll win TONE and Chrono and that will take you to top 3
I'm winning TONE
... and Deutschland.
Edited by CrueTrue on 30-01-2011 20:55
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| SotD |
Posted on 30-01-2011 20:57
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Pearl would need Fothen to win Deutschland to have a chance of passing you after the race - and Fothen is hardly a model of consistency this season
And Im surprised youre so sure Dave will win TONE, that race is impossible to predict!
I can't be sure of anything but Fothen must be the favorite in Germany and Burghardt in TONE... But obviously I know nothing about it. If Sammy Sánchez gets lucky he could even do top 10 in TONE, but it's likely to be a rider like Devolder, Ballan, Cancellara or Burghardt winning I think, and I think Burghardt is the best.
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| SotD |
Posted on 30-01-2011 20:58
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CrueTrue wrote:
SotD wrote:
dave92 wrote:
terrible race, but to be expected. As i feared i only have an outside shot at a top 3, and would require a great deal of fortune.
Nah... You'll win TONE and Chrono and that will take you to top 3
I'm winning TONE
... and Deutschland.
Would be fine by me. You can take all the stages also. As many points the lower placed teams can take the better are my chances for podium 
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 30-01-2011 21:20
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This month was horrible. I was hoping to at least close in on Nespresso and Carmeuse and get a safe advantage to Starbucks. Instead I'm losing ground to the teams above the red line and maintaining terribly close to the penultimate team. Now I'm facing relegation as a very likely fact...
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 30-01-2011 21:33
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SotD wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Pearl would need Fothen to win Deutschland to have a chance of passing you after the race - and Fothen is hardly a model of consistency this season
And Im surprised youre so sure Dave will win TONE, that race is impossible to predict!
I can't be sure of anything but Fothen must be the favorite in Germany and Burghardt in TONE... But obviously I know nothing about it. If Sammy Sánchez gets lucky he could even do top 10 in TONE, but it's likely to be a rider like Devolder, Ballan, Cancellara or Burghardt winning I think, and I think Burghardt is the best.
It is too much TT i TONE for Burghardt. Cancellara is much better suited.
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| SotD |
Posted on 30-01-2011 21:53
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mattiasgt wrote:
SotD wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Pearl would need Fothen to win Deutschland to have a chance of passing you after the race - and Fothen is hardly a model of consistency this season
And Im surprised youre so sure Dave will win TONE, that race is impossible to predict!
I can't be sure of anything but Fothen must be the favorite in Germany and Burghardt in TONE... But obviously I know nothing about it. If Sammy Sánchez gets lucky he could even do top 10 in TONE, but it's likely to be a rider like Devolder, Ballan, Cancellara or Burghardt winning I think, and I think Burghardt is the best.
It is too much TT i TONE for Burghardt. Cancellara is much better suited.
But Cancellara always fucks up the cobbles. I would be very surprised if Cancellara ends higher than Burghardt...
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 30-01-2011 22:13
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SotD wrote:
mattiasgt wrote:
SotD wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Pearl would need Fothen to win Deutschland to have a chance of passing you after the race - and Fothen is hardly a model of consistency this season
And Im surprised youre so sure Dave will win TONE, that race is impossible to predict!
I can't be sure of anything but Fothen must be the favorite in Germany and Burghardt in TONE... But obviously I know nothing about it. If Sammy Sánchez gets lucky he could even do top 10 in TONE, but it's likely to be a rider like Devolder, Ballan, Cancellara or Burghardt winning I think, and I think Burghardt is the best.
It is too much TT i TONE for Burghardt. Cancellara is much better suited.
But Cancellara always fucks up the cobbles. I would be very surprised if Cancellara ends higher than Burghardt...
There are 49 kilometers of TT in ToNE. Even if Cancellara fails on cobbles he still should win plenty of time in the time - trials, while on hills they are at the same level.
Cancellara is the big favorite in ToNE and I don't see Burghardt being even a threat for him. Devolder, Ballan or even Boonen are be bigger challengers in my opinion.
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| p3druh |
Posted on 30-01-2011 22:18
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Well, there's no way Pearl Adidas can get to the podium so a Top-5 is the goal. Even more so as our direct rivals are teams that will likely perform well until the end of the season.
Just hope Fothen manages to deliver in the Deutschland Tour and grab our first GC win and Bakelants manages to be in contention at the classics (I'm having a hard time deciding if I'm going to make him a 75MO/84HI or 76MO/83HI).
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 30-01-2011 22:22
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p3druh wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding if I'm going to make him a 75MO/84HI or 76MO/83HI.
I'd go with 75MO/84HI
75 or 76 mo won't make much of a difference with a lot of riders being able to climb a lot better than that, but the hill stat could really make the difference in the classics or a hilly stage.
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| p3druh |
Posted on 30-01-2011 22:27
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alexkr00 wrote:
p3druh wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding if I'm going to make him a 75MO/84HI or 76MO/83HI.
I'd go with 75MO/84HI
75 or 76 mo won't make much of a difference with a lot of riders being able to climb a lot better than that, but the hill stat could really make the difference in the classics or a hilly stage.
If it was only a matter of hill vs mountain, 84 hill would be the choice. The question is that 76Mountain also makes him a better TTer, basically a better stage racer.
But I guess I will go with the hilly classics beast mode and make him challenge Schleck
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 30-01-2011 22:28
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p3druh wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
p3druh wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding if I'm going to make him a 75MO/84HI or 76MO/83HI.
I'd go with 75MO/84HI
75 or 76 mo won't make much of a difference with a lot of riders being able to climb a lot better than that, but the hill stat could really make the difference in the classics or a hilly stage.
If it was only a matter of hill vs mountain, 84 hill would be the choice. The question is that 76Mountain also makes him a better TTer, basically a better stage racer.
But I guess I will go with the hilly classics beast mode and make him challenge Schleck
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 30-01-2011 22:32
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p3druh wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
p3druh wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding if I'm going to make him a 75MO/84HI or 76MO/83HI.
I'd go with 75MO/84HI
75 or 76 mo won't make much of a difference with a lot of riders being able to climb a lot better than that, but the hill stat could really make the difference in the classics or a hilly stage.
If it was only a matter of hill vs mountain, 84 hill would be the choice. The question is that 76Mountain also makes him a better TTer, basically a better stage racer.
But I guess I will go with the hilly classics beast mode and make him challenge Schleck
You're right even though I'm not sure how much better he will do in the TTs anyway. But training him as a stage - racer would also give him better RES and REC than training him as a puncheur.
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 30-01-2011 22:36
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TONE should be a very cool race. I can't see any of the cobbled 'leaders' waiting for the 'hilly' leaders on stage 5. That's where the real big gaps will be imo. |
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| p3druh |
Posted on 30-01-2011 22:38
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alexkr00 wrote:
p3druh wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
p3druh wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding if I'm going to make him a 75MO/84HI or 76MO/83HI.
I'd go with 75MO/84HI
75 or 76 mo won't make much of a difference with a lot of riders being able to climb a lot better than that, but the hill stat could really make the difference in the classics or a hilly stage.
If it was only a matter of hill vs mountain, 84 hill would be the choice. The question is that 76Mountain also makes him a better TTer, basically a better stage racer.
But I guess I will go with the hilly classics beast mode and make him challenge Schleck
You're right even though I'm not sure how much better he will do in the TTs anyway. But training him as a stage - racer would also give him better RES and REC than training him as a puncheur.
Exactly. I've been through all possibilities
@rjc:
Who?
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 30-01-2011 23:00
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p3druh wrote:
@rjc:
Who?
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| SotD |
Posted on 31-01-2011 09:15
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I would make him 76mountain... Schleck doesn't seem very eager to attack with that extremely high hilly stat, so perhaps the way to go is having a bit less, and then having him attack instead?
I would definately make that decision, and then i'd probably train him to 78 mountain, so he could also deliver a superb result in the small stageraces.
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