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Race Routes 2010
doddy13
meh

Arenburg stage looks quite good, i like cobbles though, so i was always going to say that.

Better than last year though, still looking forward to the 24th.
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Juan
Like Bruynell said : "classic" Tour, so boring Tour, with only three interesting stages for GC : Morzine-Avoriaz, Tourmalet and Bordeaux-Pauillac (51 or 59 km, dont know, of full-flat TT Cool Pfft )

EDIT : ad I like letour.fr, with the comments of Prudhomme on Bordeaux TT: "Un contre-la-montre de 51 kilomètres sur les routes vallonnées du Médoc", which means : "a 51 km long TT on the hilly roads of Médoc"
Too much wine Mr Prudhomme.
Edited by Juan on 14-10-2009 18:08
 
issoisso
Juan wrote:
Like Bruynell said : "classic" Tour, so boring Tour, with only three interesting stages for GC : Morzine-Avoriaz, Tourmalet and Bordeaux-Pauillac (51 or 59 km, dont know, of full-flat TT Cool Pfft )

EDIT : ad I like letour.fr, with the comments of Prudhomme on Bordeaux TT: "Un contre-la-montre de 51 kilomètres sur les routes vallonnées du Médoc", which means : "a 51 km long TT on the hilly roads of Médoc"
Too much wine Mr Prudhomme.


I don't see how this can be considered classic in any way.

Either way, I don't like this route. It's going to be boring and it's going to boil it down to about 3 stages. The rest of it will be a snoozefest.
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Juan
issoisso wrote:
Juan wrote:
Like Bruynell said : "classic" Tour, so boring Tour, with only three interesting stages for GC : Morzine-Avoriaz, Tourmalet and Bordeaux-Pauillac (51 or 59 km, dont know, of full-flat TT Cool Pfft )

EDIT : ad I like letour.fr, with the comments of Prudhomme on Bordeaux TT: "Un contre-la-montre de 51 kilomètres sur les routes vallonnées du Médoc", which means : "a 51 km long TT on the hilly roads of Médoc"
Too much wine Mr Prudhomme.


I don't see how this can be considered classic in any way.

Either way, I don't like this route. It's going to be boring and it's going to boil it down to about 3 stages. The rest of it will be a snoozefest.

The only interesting thing this year is that a stage is located in Bordeaux Pfft
If you mean by "classic" a TTT, windstages on the first week ... then it is not Wink
But as always, the Giro will be the most interesting.
 
chrica04
Wait so they hit the Tourmalet two times? Once over and then a summit finish...?
 
issoisso
chrica04 wrote:
Wait so they hit the Tourmalet two times? Once over and then a summit finish...?


Correct

Juan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Juan wrote:
Like Bruynell said : "classic" Tour, so boring Tour, with only three interesting stages for GC : Morzine-Avoriaz, Tourmalet and Bordeaux-Pauillac (51 or 59 km, dont know, of full-flat TT Cool Pfft )

EDIT : ad I like letour.fr, with the comments of Prudhomme on Bordeaux TT: "Un contre-la-montre de 51 kilomètres sur les routes vallonnées du Médoc", which means : "a 51 km long TT on the hilly roads of Médoc"
Too much wine Mr Prudhomme.


I don't see how this can be considered classic in any way.

Either way, I don't like this route. It's going to be boring and it's going to boil it down to about 3 stages. The rest of it will be a snoozefest.

The only interesting thing this year is that a stage is located in Bordeaux Pfft
If you mean by "classic" a TTT, windstages on the first week ... then it is not Wink
But as always, the Giro will be the most interesting.


I also mean it's far too one-sided towards one of the mountain ranges and it's extremely low in time trial kms Smile
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Shooting Star
In your perfect TdF, how much time trial and how many mountain stages would you like?
 
issoisso
Shooting Star wrote:
In your perfect TdF, how much time trial and how many mountain stages would you like?


Mountain stages, that doesn't matter. The climbs themselves and how they're positioned matter. You can have 15 mountain stages and no time differences.

Time trials, the Tour should be for an all-rounder, not a climber. 120kms seems reasonable to me, although most people who watched the Tour before the 2000s will argue that it's way too few.
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Johan92
Prologue (8 km), TTT (60 km), ITT (50 km) and ITT (50 km), sounds great in my ears.
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kumazan
Yeah, less than 100-120 km of time trial is too few, but 60 km is a joke. The first Tour I ever watched, in 1997, had ~120km of tt. Since then, the km of ITT have been progresively decreasing to a sh*tty 60km. And that's still more than in the last Vuelta. Meh.
 
Il Gladiatore
Johan92 wrote:
Prologue (8 km), TTT (60 km), ITT (50 km) and ITT (50 km), sounds great in my ears.


Yeah, something like that, and also a Mountaint TT would be goodSmile
 
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Il Gladiatore wrote:
Johan92 wrote:
Prologue (8 km), TTT (60 km), ITT (50 km) and ITT (50 km), sounds great in my ears.


Yeah, something like that, and also a Mountaint TT would be goodSmile


This would also probably lead to a closer tour as Cance may actually challenge Contador
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Johan92
Cance won't win a Tour if people like Conta, Andy, Frank, Lance, Wiggins, Lepheimer, Kløden, Sastre, Nibali, Kreuziger, Menchov, Basso, Gesink, Mosquera, Valverde, Evans, Pellizotti, etc still are in the game. Not even challenge them.
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issoisso
mb2612 wrote:
Il Gladiatore wrote:
Johan92 wrote:
Prologue (8 km), TTT (60 km), ITT (50 km) and ITT (50 km), sounds great in my ears.


Yeah, something like that, and also a Mountaint TT would be goodSmile


This would also probably lead to a closer tour as Cance may actually challenge Contador


*brain explodes*
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Ste117
Brillaint route. I am looking forward to it. I love the Peyrousourde and Tourmelet. Still feel the tour should have an extra stage in the alps maybe L'alpe du Heuz, Mount Ventoux or Les deux alps.
 
ursul
Shooting Star wrote:
In your perfect TdF, how much time trial and how many mountain stages would you like?

9 or 10, and at least a mountain timetrial
When Nothing goes rigth, go left...
 
mb2612
Johan92 wrote:
Cance won't win a Tour if people like Conta, Andy, Frank, Lance, Wiggins, Lepheimer, Kløden, Sastre, Nibali, Kreuziger, Menchov, Basso, Gesink, Mosquera, Valverde, Evans, Pellizotti, etc still are in the game. Not even challenge them.


Read my sig Grin
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Ste117
Tbh I prefer no time trails.
 
Ste117
the race doesnt pass through Italy, so maybe Valverde will be racing. Grin
 
issoisso
Ste117 wrote:
Tbh I prefer no time trails.


My head would explode again if it hadn't already
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