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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:39
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he didn't win because somebody crashed
No matter on whether he was strongest or not, of the final selection of 6, 4 crashed, Pozzato got slightly held up, and Boonen won |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:40
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Yep Boonen crashed, but in the fast part of the race. Then he got a puncture later when the 6 riders group was already made, but the other waited him.
Flecha crashed: Hoste hit him, Vansummeren had problems because of that, Pozzato was almost hit by Vansummeren.
Hushovd crashed, a women/girl/b*tch crosses the road right in front of Pozzato. He had luck because the win come easier when the others had problems. Still I think that he would won eve without those things, but Flecha, Hushovd and Pozzato would also had a bigger chance 
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:47
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Especially Hushovd, he looked really strong today.
Edited by ponka00 on 12-04-2009 20:47
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| soda |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:48
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mhmm, still Boonen always was in the front of the group. Thats how he evaded the fall that ook out Vansummeren, Hoste en Flecha and held up Pozzato.
After that Boonen and Hushovdt would have made it to the velodrome only Hushovdt took himself out.
So Boonen did have some luck (althought he was the strongest cycler out there imo) making things easier for him.µ
Besides that i was actually cheering for Hoste (being Belgian and having my PCM points on him lol). Its a shame he got taken out by the fall caused by Flecha. Cuz imo with the help of Vansummeren he stood a descent chance of taking home the flowers today. |
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| Brucht |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:48
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issoisso wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
Boonen ain't riding unfair, he had a puncture on a non-decisive stage off the race, the others crash on a decisive stage off the race. very diffrent situation
Tell me another situation where a favorite has a problem and someone else attacks.
Only Stephen Roche did that. And the fact that Roche is universally hated outside of Ireland/UK for winning both the Giro and the Tour that way, says a lot about how this kind of thing is viewed.
Boonen didn't even notice Hushovd fell.
He didn't see it, or couldn't hear it...
Also, he did not attack. He was already going flat out when Hushovd fell.
Stupid way to win though, but it's certainly not undeserved. |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:53
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I think my point wasn't clear. Many of you are not saying that he was helped by luck, but that he won because of that. And I don't think so. I mean, you can't say that all the other favorites lost 1 minute because of one crash or something like that. And Alexkr00, I think you're pretty much exagerating about the girl crossing the road. Did Pozzatto lose because of that? And by 47 seconds? At this rate we will end saying that the other guys weren't lucky because the spectators didn't cheer them enough.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:53
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SportingNonsense wrote:
he didn't win because somebody crashed
No matter on whether he was strongest or not, of the final selection of 6, 4 crashed, Pozzato got slightly held up, and Boonen won
In the end, that's never what people remember. He'll be remembered as a guy who dropped the others to win solo.
Cancellara only won because of a crash 3 years ago. I'll bet you 19 out of 20 people don't remember that. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:54
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Ildabaoth wrote:you can't say that all the other favorites lost 1 minute because of one crash
Hushovd was on Boonen's wheel....when he got up he was at 1:12. He ended up at less than one minute. Says a lot, doesn't it? |
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| soda |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:55
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issoisso wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:you can't say that all the other favorites lost 1 minute because of one crash
Hushovd was on Boonen's wheel....when he got up he was at 1:12. He ended up at less than one minute. Says a lot, doesn't it? Keep in mind Boonen was alone and Hushovdt was in a group with Hosta and Vansummeren. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:57
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soda wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:you can't say that all the other favorites lost 1 minute because of one crash
Hushovd was on Boonen's wheel....when he got up he was at 1:12. He ended up at less than one minute. Says a lot, doesn't it? Keep in mind Boonen was alone and Hushovdt was in a group with Hosta and Vansummeren.
I'm going to ask doddy to upload the race so you can see that Hoste and Van Summeren didn't relay and were in fact dropped by Hushovd. Only later Hoste made it back  |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:58
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read and will upload. Would help if people could tell me which bit to upload. It was a long race.
Edit: But isso is right, i didn't see them relaying
Edited by doddy13 on 12-04-2009 21:02
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:59
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 12-04-2009 20:59
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yikes! It doesn't even all fit onto one dvd. 
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| soda |
Posted on 12-04-2009 21:00
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issoisso wrote:
soda wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:you can't say that all the other favorites lost 1 minute because of one crash
Hushovd was on Boonen's wheel....when he got up he was at 1:12. He ended up at less than one minute. Says a lot, doesn't it? Keep in mind Boonen was alone and Hushovdt was in a group with Hosta and Vansummeren.
I'm going to ask doddy to upload the race so you can see that Hoste and Van Summeren didn't relay and were in fact dropped by Hushovd. Only later Hoste made it back Hmm can't agree Hoste and Vansummeren did relay from my point of vieuw and yes Hushovdt was slightly upfront them 2 at some point. But imo they were never dropped, Vansummeren gave all he had to help Hoste. Thats why he was dropped a few times. But when he wasn't around neither Hushovdt or Hoste were flying. Cuz he was able to return everytime, making it to the velodrome with them. |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 12-04-2009 21:00
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issoisso wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:you can't say that all the other favorites lost 1 minute because of one crash
Hushovd was on Boonen's wheel....when he got up he was at 1:12. He ended up at less than one minute. Says a lot, doesn't it?
I thought he ended at 1:17. And even if I'm wrong, he wasn't riding by himself, but with Hoste and Van Summeren.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 12-04-2009 21:01
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out of interest does anyone know if haussler relayed with chavanel because if not then he is pretty impolite as well
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-04-2009 21:03
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Ildabaoth wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:you can't say that all the other favorites lost 1 minute because of one crash
Hushovd was on Boonen's wheel....when he got up he was at 1:12. He ended up at less than one minute. Says a lot, doesn't it?
I thought he ended at 1:17. And even if I'm wrong, he wasn't riding by himself, but with Hoste and Van Summeren.
Now that you mention it, I'm seeing both gaps listed in different places. And the more trustworthy sites list 1:17.
But why the heck would riding with 2 guys who won't relay make him faster?
Fact is, there was nowhere left for Boonen to drop Hushovd. It would've been a sprint. There's no way to tell who would've won.
And with no crashes at all...well, who knows what the heck would've happened.
mb2612 wrote:
out of interest does anyone know if haussler relayed with chavanel because if not then he is pretty impolite as well
I thought it was pretty damn unsporting. I only saw them do the last 500m before the vélodrome, then the lap and a half on the track...and that whole time was Haussler glued to Chavanel's ass. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 12-04-2009 21:04
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yeah i saw that. Chavanel was wheelsucked by Haussler and then went and took the damn place.
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| Rin |
Posted on 12-04-2009 21:05
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I like german non-Eurosport sport television from the german state program ZDF
Did you know that Flecha is from Argentina?
I´d never noticed that
It´s good to learn every day something "special"
Very "stupid" that the cutter showed also the results after the race where he had to see that Flecha is from Spain
Also Eurosport Germany told after 40 Minutes (after the motocycle crash) that 11 persons were injured and none so injured that you have to be worried about
ZDF asked and recieved no answer (they won´t show the TDF live...  )
They showed Klier and Wynants??? (Quickstep rider) attacking (motocycle was infront of them)
They said it was Haussler
After that they showed them both from the side (1 second after that) and said that Klier was riding in the pack during the race
Also everytime where is Haussler , there he is and he is perfect and doing well propably world champion , why would he like to be australian etc.
Very bad that Flecha and Hushovd had so much bad luck...
But Boonen deserved it
Can´t wait for Amstel Gold Race
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 12-04-2009 21:07
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issoisso wrote:
I thought it was pretty damn unsporting. I only saw them do the last 500m before the vélodrome, then the lap and a half on the track...and that whole time was Haussler glued to Chavanel's ass.
I didn't see that either, but I guess Haussler was sucking wheel for a longtime, because everytime the video showed their group, it was Chavanel doing all the job.
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