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| mb2612 |
Posted on 07-05-2010 01:11
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massive turnout as well
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| Crommy |
Posted on 07-05-2010 01:14
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South appears to be a contest between Lib Dems and Conservatives, north between Labour and Conservatives.
Lib Dems now appear to be biggest obstruction to majority for Tories.
By God this is exciting
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:21
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Markets are opening - bad move given what's happened in the USA, and a nowhere near resolved election
What do you mean "given what's happened in the USA," I think you mean given what's happened in Greece. In fact, the UK's response (even without the election) will probably be worse as they have a greater connection to the EU. |
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:24
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Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Markets are opening - bad move given what's happened in the USA, and a nowhere near resolved election
What do you mean "given what's happened in the USA," I think you mean given what's happened in Greece. In fact, the UK's response (even without the election) will probably be worse as they have a greater connection to the EU.
The US markets have had a dramatic drop. The situation in Greece is not as relevant given the lack of prevalence of the Euro in the Uk markets
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:26
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Crommy wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Markets are opening - bad move given what's happened in the USA, and a nowhere near resolved election
What do you mean "given what's happened in the USA," I think you mean given what's happened in Greece. In fact, the UK's response (even without the election) will probably be worse as they have a greater connection to the EU.
The US markets have had a dramatic drop. The situation in Greece is not as relevant given the lack of prevalence of the Euro in the Uk markets 
I know the US markets went haywire, but they went haywire because of Greece. Besides, it doesn't matter how the currency reacts, it is more that the entire EU is reeling from the problems in Greece, and as the UK has a more direct relationship with the EU in general, they are more likely to react badly to a potential problem on the continent. Don't get me wrong, the chaos at the NYSE and Nasdaq today just exacerbated problems, but they certainly didn't cause it.
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:27
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Conservatives appear to be getting swings, but never enough to gain seats.
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:31
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Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Markets are opening - bad move given what's happened in the USA, and a nowhere near resolved election
What do you mean "given what's happened in the USA," I think you mean given what's happened in Greece. In fact, the UK's response (even without the election) will probably be worse as they have a greater connection to the EU.
The US markets have had a dramatic drop. The situation in Greece is not as relevant given the lack of prevalence of the Euro in the Uk markets 
I know the US markets went haywire, but they went haywire because of Greece. Besides, it doesn't matter how the currency reacts, it is more that the entire EU is reeling from the problems in Greece, and as the UK has a more direct relationship with the EU in general, they are more likely to react badly to a potential problem on the continent. Don't get me wrong, the chaos at the NYSE and Nasdaq today just exacerbated problems, but they certainly didn't cause it.
I didn't mean that Greece wasn't the cause. It's just the UK markets react far more to the dollar and US markets than they do to the Euro and European market, despite our geographical proximity. Greece's problems are on the road to recovery today thanks to the austerity measures done today. US markets have still reacted poorly though, and that's what will cause UK market problems
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:34
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Gordon Brown wins his seat with a ridiculous majority
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:36
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Crommy wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Markets are opening - bad move given what's happened in the USA, and a nowhere near resolved election
What do you mean "given what's happened in the USA," I think you mean given what's happened in Greece. In fact, the UK's response (even without the election) will probably be worse as they have a greater connection to the EU.
The US markets have had a dramatic drop. The situation in Greece is not as relevant given the lack of prevalence of the Euro in the Uk markets 
I know the US markets went haywire, but they went haywire because of Greece. Besides, it doesn't matter how the currency reacts, it is more that the entire EU is reeling from the problems in Greece, and as the UK has a more direct relationship with the EU in general, they are more likely to react badly to a potential problem on the continent. Don't get me wrong, the chaos at the NYSE and Nasdaq today just exacerbated problems, but they certainly didn't cause it.
I didn't mean that Greece wasn't the cause. It's just the UK markets react far more to the dollar and US markets than they do to the Euro and European market, despite our geographical proximity. Greece's problems are on the road to recovery today thanks to the austerity measures done today. US markets have still reacted poorly though, and that's what will cause UK market problems
I disagree. In general, the UK markets are more in tune to the American ones, however, with the severe danger to the EU caused by the whole Greece thing, I think that the UK is in a far more exposed position than the US, and will react accordingly. Overall I'm not disagreeing with you (except for the road to recovery part, debts like these, especially with the heavily intertwined EU, don't just disappear), but I do think the US had a little less to do with it than you are saying, and are more making the problem a little worse than it could be. |
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:36
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everyone votes for the pm
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:37
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conservatives get Battersea!!
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:38
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Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Markets are opening - bad move given what's happened in the USA, and a nowhere near resolved election
What do you mean "given what's happened in the USA," I think you mean given what's happened in Greece. In fact, the UK's response (even without the election) will probably be worse as they have a greater connection to the EU.
The US markets have had a dramatic drop. The situation in Greece is not as relevant given the lack of prevalence of the Euro in the Uk markets 
I know the US markets went haywire, but they went haywire because of Greece. Besides, it doesn't matter how the currency reacts, it is more that the entire EU is reeling from the problems in Greece, and as the UK has a more direct relationship with the EU in general, they are more likely to react badly to a potential problem on the continent. Don't get me wrong, the chaos at the NYSE and Nasdaq today just exacerbated problems, but they certainly didn't cause it.
I didn't mean that Greece wasn't the cause. It's just the UK markets react far more to the dollar and US markets than they do to the Euro and European market, despite our geographical proximity. Greece's problems are on the road to recovery today thanks to the austerity measures done today. US markets have still reacted poorly though, and that's what will cause UK market problems
I disagree. In general, the UK markets are more in tune to the American ones, however, with the severe danger to the EU caused by the whole Greece thing, I think that the UK is in a far more exposed position than the US, and will react accordingly. Overall I'm not disagreeing with you (except for the road to recovery part, debts like these, especially with the heavily intertwined EU, don't just disappear), but I do think the US had a little less to do with it than you are saying, and are more making the problem a little worse than it could be.
I'm not saying it's not our fault. We cause the problem, you react, then we suddenly react to you because you always react more quickly to situations, then blame your markets

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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:40
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conservatives get Battersea!!
Good win for them - Basildon soon - wait for that one, and it's a good indication of what will happen in the whole country
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:45
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Turnouts all good so far - given the worry over disillusion due to the expenses scandal, it's good to see
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:48
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Labour just hold Tooting. Conservatives still struggling to get the swings in each individual constituency required to gain seats. It's wide open folks!
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:54
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I was just watching an episode of Darkplace, and I think Gordon Brown should take this Garth Marenghi gem as his new slogan:
"We're doing all we can, but I'm not Jesus Christ, I've learned to accept that now." |
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Posted on 07-05-2010 01:58
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Ok, now looking again like a certain hung parliament
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Posted on 07-05-2010 02:00
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yeah, conservatives need a massive run now.
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Posted on 07-05-2010 02:01
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mb2612 wrote:
yeah, conservatives need a massive run now.
Poor showing in Wales by them so far
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Posted on 07-05-2010 02:02
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the national con/lab swing is 3.7% average.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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