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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-01-2011 21:41
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E_Hagen wrote:
Nice, le Tour this year will be the dullest and most boring ever...
The winner
Doubtful. I've known the Indurain years, they were dull (most of them). I've known the Armstrong years, they were dull (most of them). And now we'll get the dullest and most boring TDF ever just because Contador is likely to be absent ?
I doubt it very much... |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 28-01-2011 22:02
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It´s funny how he tries to prevent a ban. Wasn´t he informed far before it was offical and told us in an interview how clean cycling became although he knew about his test?
And now he claims it was made public too early and all the comments have a huge impact on the ban. Surprisingly, he will not quit cycling when he´s banned...
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| kumazan |
Posted on 28-01-2011 22:13
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Aquarius wrote:
E_Hagen wrote:
Nice, le Tour this year will be the dullest and most boring ever...
The winner
Doubtful. I've known the Indurain years, they were dull (most of them). I've known the Armstrong years, they were dull (most of them). And now we'll get the dullest and most boring TDF ever just because Contador is likely to be absent ?
I doubt it very much...
It's worth to remember that the dullest Tour of the post-uniballer era was won by...Contador. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 28-01-2011 23:05
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kumazan wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
E_Hagen wrote:
Nice, le Tour this year will be the dullest and most boring ever...
The winner
Doubtful. I've known the Indurain years, they were dull (most of them). I've known the Armstrong years, they were dull (most of them). And now we'll get the dullest and most boring TDF ever just because Contador is likely to be absent ?
I doubt it very much...
It's worth to remember that the dullest Tour of the post-uniballer era was won by...Contador.
2007 or 2009? although I think I know which one. 2007 I liked a lot despite all the doping controversy and in 2009 Arashiro finished top 5 in a stage 
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-01-2011 23:32
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kumazan wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
E_Hagen wrote:
Nice, le Tour this year will be the dullest and most boring ever...
The winner
Doubtful. I've known the Indurain years, they were dull (most of them). I've known the Armstrong years, they were dull (most of them). And now we'll get the dullest and most boring TDF ever just because Contador is likely to be absent ?
I doubt it very much...
It's worth to remember that the dullest Tour of the post-uniballer era was won by...Contador. How can you say that ? Contador is just so fast up the mountains. The speed of the riders up the mountains is THE enjoyable aspect of cycling (which is also why I like MotoGP a lot, btw).
Riders having a bad day ? Unexpected leaders change ? Unpredictable scenario for stages ? No way. Everything is just about the best rider being there, nevermind that or these best riders would be better than the others thanks to dope. 
Spoiler (Yes I'm being ironic, if that's not obvious enough - just going straight at the core of siwi, E_Hagen, and so many others' viewpoints) |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 28-01-2011 23:36
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valverde321 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
E_Hagen wrote:
Nice, le Tour this year will be the dullest and most boring ever...
The winner
Doubtful. I've known the Indurain years, they were dull (most of them). I've known the Armstrong years, they were dull (most of them). And now we'll get the dullest and most boring TDF ever just because Contador is likely to be absent ?
I doubt it very much...
It's worth to remember that the dullest Tour of the post-uniballer era was won by...Contador.
2007 or 2009? although I think I know which one. 2007 I liked a lot despite all the doping controversy and in 2009 Arashiro finished top 5 in a stage
2009 was awful. 2007 was a good route as far as I can remember and had a fasciniating GC battle, the only problem being Rasmussen ended up as Contador's pacemaker on the climbs and then conveniently disappeared. |
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| DJP19 |
Posted on 29-01-2011 03:15
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2006 was by far the worst, no way Pererionshould have won. This might be interesting. Sanchez, Basso, Anton, Shlecks. However i think Andy would have to crash before it got interesting |
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| jack888 |
Posted on 29-01-2011 03:49
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Seeing as Shleck can't TT (that well), i think the GTs will still be pretty close. He is the strongest in the mountains, but if the Liquigas and Rabobank guys can hold on we should see some good racing. |
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 09-02-2011 16:03
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jack888 wrote:
Seeing as Shleck can't TT (that well), i think the GTs will still be pretty close. He is the strongest in the mountains, but if the Liquigas and Rabobank guys can hold on we should see some good racing.
Seeing as there is very little time trialing it would an accident or a really bad day for Schleck to loose the Tour. Either that or someone has to step up from last season  |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-02-2011 18:16
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sento wrote:
contador had 0,0000000005 gr in his body,
Which is about as much as what's left if you take some blood out 3 or 4 days after a cure of it and reinject 150 ml one day before a control. But that's a coincidence.
but you hate all the winners, Damn, I had never realised that. Wait. That is wrong.
you dont like cycling, Once again, that is wrong.
you like dopping,
Dopping will always be better than doping in my opinion, but FYI I don't like doping or doped sportsmen (nor sportswomen) either.
and for you all who win is a dopper, Erm, no. But how could you possibly know that much about me ? We've never met, have we ? 
and if he is spanish far better. I care that much about Spain. 
Certainly, he had four positives, but UCI has recognised that all of them were because only one intake.
I recommend you find out about before you speak My point wasn't exactly why four and not only one, my point was how come he returned a positive test at all ?
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| chrica04 |
Posted on 11-02-2011 15:29
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It is coming from cyclingnews, so who knows if accurate, but they are saying that his ban may be revoked.... |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 11-02-2011 16:11
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chrica04 wrote:
It is coming from cyclingnews, so who knows if accurate, but they are saying that his ban may be revoked....
It's pretty accurate I'd say. The propaganda machine is working at full load. Even the Prime Minister has spoken in favor of Bertie. |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 11-02-2011 17:10
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kumazan wrote:
chrica04 wrote:
It is coming from cyclingnews, so who knows if accurate, but they are saying that his ban may be revoked....
It's pretty accurate I'd say. The propaganda machine is working at full load. Even the Prime Minister has spoken in favor of Bertie.
If the Spanish Prime Minister's saying he's innocent, it simply must be true. We finally have an expert speaking on the matter |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 11-02-2011 17:12
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lagetcher wrote:
kumazan wrote:
chrica04 wrote:
It is coming from cyclingnews, so who knows if accurate, but they are saying that his ban may be revoked....
It's pretty accurate I'd say. The propaganda machine is working at full load. Even the Prime Minister has spoken in favor of Bertie.
If the Spanish Prime Minister's saying he's innocent, it simply must be true. We finally have an expert speaking on the matter
I used to think Contador was guilty as hell, but this expert's opinion changed my mind completely https://pcmdaily.c...ost_359066
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| chrica04 |
Posted on 11-02-2011 17:31
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Crommy wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
kumazan wrote:
chrica04 wrote:
It is coming from cyclingnews, so who knows if accurate, but they are saying that his ban may be revoked....
It's pretty accurate I'd say. The propaganda machine is working at full load. Even the Prime Minister has spoken in favor of Bertie.
If the Spanish Prime Minister's saying he's innocent, it simply must be true. We finally have an expert speaking on the matter
I used to think Contador was guilty as hell, but this expert's opinion changed my mind completely https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_359066
I never wanna believe an athlete is clean if they claim, but it is starting to seem as though he could be innocent. Who knows....just want it to be resolved. If he gets of and is innocent, great! If he is guilty, and gets off....then shoot.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 12-02-2011 19:36
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You have a positive test. Why shouldn't be he banned?
The rules are clear on this: Whatever is inside an athlete's body is his/her responsibility. |
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| siwi |
Posted on 12-02-2011 19:42
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He should not be banned if its because of some meat. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 12-02-2011 19:50
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According to the rules, he should.
And even if it was in the meat, it's up to Contador to prove that it was there he got it from. That hasn't happened yet. |
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| Anonymer |
Posted on 12-02-2011 20:02
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if you argue this way, tell me: how is contador supposed to prove his innocence ? |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 12-02-2011 20:04
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CrueTrue wrote:
According to the rules, he should.
And even if it was in the meat, it's up to Contador to prove that it was there he got it from. That hasn't happened yet.
No. According to the rules, if AC proves it was the meat which caused the positive, he'll walk free. But he hasn't proven shit so far. And to trace meat's origin is very easy in the EU.
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if you argue this way, tell me: how is contador supposed to prove his innocence ?
A good start would be to test the butcher's meat and look for clenbuterol on it. Or trace its origin and test the cattle. Or a hair test for him and the team mates who supposedly ate the meat with him. But the only thing he's done so far is blaming the meat and showing zero proofs.
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