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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 07-06-2012 15:55
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I hope martin's TT will be better in the tour |
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:03
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CountArach wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
CountArach wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
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Wiggins has peaked way too early.
Well that remains to be seen but damned if you do and damned if you don't at the Dauphine 
Dauphine is a warmup race for the Tour. If you come around the top 10 that is a good sign. Beating Tony Martin in a time trial by 34" is not a good sign.
As I say time will tell though Evans finsihing as high as 2nd last year didn't seem to do him any harm at the Tour
Evans has always had freakishly good recovery though.
Ian I wouldn't listen to Arach, all he ever seems to do is moan and knock Wiggins |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:11
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CountArach wrote:
Martin is still on some good form though and seems to have found a rhythm. Regardless, putting a minute into all but one rider indicates he is way ahead of where his form should be. I would put him close to Evans as far as TT abilities are concerned. Evans is on good form, and yet lost almost 2 minutes to Wiggins.
You rate Evans too highly if you think Evans and Wiggins have equal TT talent
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| jph27 |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:15
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Wiggins did nothing special really. Apart from Martin, he beat everyone you would expect him to beat, and put about the amount of time you would expect into them. Impressed by Kelderman. |
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Posted on 07-06-2012 16:20
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Anyone still doubting Wiggins is a favorite for the Tour?
After today I rate his chances lower than I did yesterday.
Like I say every year before the Dauphiné: This week we find out who won't win the Tour. And it's whoever wins the Dauphiné.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:22
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Wiggins has clearly stated he is not focusing on the dauphine, he is not intentionally racing to win it, he just is as he is on the form of his life.
Rogers was quite impressive as well |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:23
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Wiggins has clearly stated he is not focusing on the dauphine, he is not intentionally racing to win it, he just is as he is on the form of his life.
Rogers was quite impressive as well
Yes, they always say that stuff. Andy Schleck also says he's right on track for the Tour. Do you believe him?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:25
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No, but i believe wiggins
especially as he hasnt attacked properly just ridden well
Edited by TheManxMissile on 07-06-2012 16:26
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| Squire |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:27
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Wiggins still hasn't ridden over one single mountain so far this season. I wouldn't proclaim him as the Tour favourite yet.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:31
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Squire wrote:
Wiggins still hasn't ridden over one single mountain so far this season. I wouldn't proclaim him as the Tour favourite yet.
hes actually done over 32000m of climbing during training
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Posted on 07-06-2012 16:33
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Anyone can do that. It's about going up them fast.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:34
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Squire wrote:
Wiggins still hasn't ridden over one single mountain so far this season. I wouldn't proclaim him as the Tour favourite yet.
hes actually done over 32000m of climbing during training
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/extre...or-wiggins
Yeah, that's why he went to Tenerife...  |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:35
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jph27 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Squire wrote:
Wiggins still hasn't ridden over one single mountain so far this season. I wouldn't proclaim him as the Tour favourite yet.
hes actually done over 32000m of climbing during training
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/extre...or-wiggins
Yeah, that's why he went to Tenerife...
Still not the same as racing against other people up mountains...
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:37
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i know, but it helps
The Cannibal once said "If you want to get better at cycling, you go and cycle" |
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-06-2012 16:58
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TheManxMissile wrote:
i know, but it helps
The Cannibal once said "If you want to get better at cycling, you go and cycle"
Yeah but only Wiggins and naive Brits believe he is the only one doing this kind of training.
Guys like Vandenbroeck and Evans have been on continious altitude training since end april as well you know.
Gesink has been doing nothing else but riding up mountains with only California as inbetween as well.
Nibali did altitude training prior to California and after as well. They all do the same as Wiggins.
So that doesn't give him some sort of advantage |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 07-06-2012 17:02
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TheManxMissile wrote:
i know, but it helps
The Cannibal once said "If you want to get better at cycling, you go and cycle"
All I was saying was that the point still stood - until we see Wiggins race and race well against the best uphill this year then we can't nail him on for it. And then we still can't because he may have peaked too early...impossible to tell.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 07-06-2012 17:38
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Of course they favorites all trained for TDF, Wiggins isn't the only one who trained up a mountain.
But in the end, you can have 100 guys training up a mountain, it'll come down to form and talent in TDF. (not only form and talent, but you get what I mean) |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 07-06-2012 17:49
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Interesting to see Jens Voigt speculating on Twitter that Wiggins is probably peaking too early for the 2nd half of the Tour.
Against Contador on the Dauphine podium in 2009 and 2010 and Evans in 2011.
Expect Jens knows more firsthand than most but will be very interesting to see.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 07-06-2012 18:04
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Ridiculous to conclude that Wiggins peaks to fast. The shape that Martin has at the moment emphasizes further more that Wiggins was today's biggest favorite - in other words, it wasn't unexpected at all that Wiggins won. Wiggins has shown that he can ride at a high level without being in TdF-shape, opposite some other GC contenders as Nibali and Menchov, so the margin that he won isn't a sign of already peaking or at least peaking to fast in TdF.
Some one in this thread that after today's race, he believed a little less in Wiggins - it's way to fast. If he drops Evans, Nibali and Menchov with +2 minutes at Joux Plane i'll agree, but such a performance emphasizes that Wiggins really is a rider to count on in the GC. At least to me. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-06-2012 18:44
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Ian Butler wrote:
Of course they favorites all trained for TDF, Wiggins isn't the only one who trained up a mountain.
But in the end, you can have 100 guys training up a mountain, it'll come down to form and talent in TDF. (not only form and talent, but you get what I mean)
I know. According to Vaughters Wiggins is the most incredible athlete from an physiological point of view he had ever seen. Especially his oxygen carrying capacity is amazing. (not to be mistaken by Vo2/Vo2max which according to Vaughters is an old outdated concept) |
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