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| Waghlon |
Posted on 15-03-2009 11:29
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And Alexis sure as hell cant either.
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| SotD |
Posted on 15-03-2009 11:33
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Well I have begun, but it will take quite some time to get through it all... |
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Posted on 15-03-2009 11:43
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Maggot wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
One little thing, I counted 5 riders guaranteed for a top 3 in the giro, and 4 riders guaranteed for a top 3 in the tour.
then you are bad on maths
A ) Your bad at English ( maths not math  )
B ) I was being sarcastic, sorry if i didn't come off as such, but way too many riders are said to be "guarantees" for podium's at big races, even when some (such as Pozzovizio) are really not
STOP WITH YOUR AMERICANISMS!
You know I am right, here is a nice little proof:
Actually, Math is more correct than Maths, given that the "-ics" ending is actually considered as a singular rather than a plural ending for confusing reasons leading back to the original Greek and Latin--the Greek and Latin words for math were singular("mathematica" or something along those lines, as a feminine singular) and the "-ics" ending arose before the "-s" was cemented as a plural ending. If the OED said "mathematics" was originally plural, it's wrong. It was originally singular. Also, I think "math" rolls off the tongue better than "maths" and the "ths", like most combinations of two fricatives put together, sounds really awkward.
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| SotD |
Posted on 15-03-2009 11:44
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Can't we take that discussion somewhere else? It doesn't really have anything to do with our game... |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 15-03-2009 18:02
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Deadpool: You also should have said "You're," or "you are"
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-03-2009 18:47
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As SotD said, end of discussion or go to Cafe Pedro instead. |
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| Setzel |
Posted on 15-03-2009 23:45
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If sotd predictions are good the manager of Domina Vacanze will take Sotd into a big nice vacantion in Ibiza to party 
Eating my daily Breakfast at 9 pm
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-11-2009 16:15
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Having a look here and it doesn't look all that wrong. Of course I can't get them spot on, but most teams are within 3 places or so. The biggest dissapointment is Philips - Hummel, which could easily get 5 spots up after the tour. Accumalux is 7th atm, whilst I had put them on 2nd. That will be hard, but 3rd isn't unrealistic looking at their Tour de France lineup.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-11-2009 16:41
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SotD wrote:
Having a look here and it doesn't look all that wrong. Of course I can't get them spot on, but most teams are within 3 places or so. The biggest dissapointment is Philips - Hummel, which could easily get 5 spots up after the tour. Accumalux is 7th atm, whilst I had put them on 2nd. That will be hard, but 3rd isn't unrealistic looking at their Tour de France lineup.
For Accumalux, I think 2nd was an optimistic prediction, but bearing in mind my slower season start and some fairly strong lineups in the majority of upcoming races, and that 3rd-7th is pretty close, with 2nd place Domina unlikely to stay there imo, then its plausible that Accumalux will be up in the Top 5 come season end.
Looking at other teams, Rabobank and certainly than Wikipedia are doing much better at the moment. You perhaps overestimated both Eurosport and American Suzuki, who seem set on a 16th/17th battle.
At the moment, theres 3 close bunches emerging though which means it can be very different in only a few races time. After Gazetta, it is close for 2nd to 7th, then a gap til it being pretty close for 8-15th and then the bottom 3.
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:07
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Agreed. It will be very interesting. On paper the strongest races is yet to come for me. I have very strong lineups for all races from now till finish.
Looking at the remaining races I have:
Eindhoven TTT -> AVR: 74,25, A good team but hardly any chance of winning, or podium.
International Osterriech Rundfahrt -> Mauricio Ardila + Iban Mayo, should give a top 10 GC easily.
Tour de France -> Alberto Contador and Thor Hushovd, should be my best GT this season, hopefully with top 6 GC and a bunch of stagewins, with 10 flat stages for Thor.
Badaling International -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez, should get a good result as always.
Seine - Marne - Seine -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez, same as above.
Vuelta a Asturias -> Alberto Contador, Mauricio Ardila and Iban Mayo, should provide a very good result here. Perhaps 3 guys in top 20 with some luck.
Deutschland Tour -> Carlos Castaño and Iban Mayo, should also give something like 7th and 15th. Castaño have been performing top 6 in every small tour GC so far.
GP de Fourmies -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez and Thor Hushovd, garding every aspect here.
Northern Europe Tour -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez and Thor Hushovd, it's a difficult race to read, so hoping for a couple of stagewins instead.
Giro dell Emilia -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez, should do well yet again.
Giro di Lombardia -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez, same as above.
Chrono des Herbies -> My worst race of the remaining of the season. I won't get in top 10 here no matter who I bring.
Japan Cup -> Samuel Sánchez, should get me in top 3 of the PT in this last race hopefully :-)
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:18
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SotD wrote:
Agreed. It will be very interesting. On paper the strongest races is yet to come for me. I have very strong lineups for all races from now till finish.
Looking at the remaining races I have:
Eindhoven TTT -> AVR: 74,25, A good team but hardly any chance of winning, or podium.
International Osterriech Rundfahrt -> Mauricio Ardila + Iban Mayo, should give a top 10 GC easily.
Tour de France -> Alberto Contador and Thor Hushovd, should be my best GT this season, hopefully with top 6 GC and a bunch of stagewins, with 10 flat stages for Thor.
Badaling International -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez, should get a good result as always.
Seine - Marne - Seine -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez, same as above.
Vuelta a Asturias -> Alberto Contador, Mauricio Ardila and Iban Mayo, should provide a very good result here. Perhaps 3 guys in top 20 with some luck.
Deutschland Tour -> Carlos Castaño and Iban Mayo, should also give something like 7th and 15th. Castaño have been performing top 6 in every small tour GC so far.
GP de Fourmies -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez and Thor Hushovd, garding every aspect here.
Northern Europe Tour -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez and Thor Hushovd, it's a difficult race to read, so hoping for a couple of stagewins instead.
Giro dell Emilia -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez, should do well yet again.
Giro di Lombardia -> Samuel Sánchez Gonzalez, same as above.
Chrono des Herbies -> My worst race of the remaining of the season. I won't get in top 10 here no matter who I bring.
Japan Cup -> Samuel Sánchez, should get me in top 3 of the PT in this last race hopefully :-)
Theres a lot going on Samuel Sanchez there, he wont always perform great I dont think.
The Tour de France - Boonen should be favourite for sprints imo, Hushovd certainly wont have it as easy as Bennati did in the other GTs. Contador should be Top 10, but i think you missed a trick in not sending him to the Vuelta
Austria/Deutschland/Asturias - a lot does depend on the start lists. Not convinced youll easily get a top 10 in Austria based on Ardila/Mayo's current performances.
And TONE - Who knows? 
I dont think youve got enough to catch La Gazetta, but the battle for 2nd is very open and youll be included in that
Edited by SportingNonsense on 14-11-2009 17:19
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| dave92 |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:20
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My team have surprised me aswell, and I dont think they will falter too much down the stretch. Uran still has Austria. Asturias, and the Suisse tour. Spilak has a chance to take decent points from TDF, Germany, and the Northern Europe Tour.
Each will complement Coppel and Zabriskie in Eindhoven where i see the team being a pretty good favorite. Coppel and Zabriskie could bring another nice haul in Chrono de Herbiers, but I will certainly loose some ground in the hilly classics.
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:24
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1st is already gone indeed. Well I suppose Thor can't lose to Boonen everytime, and even if he can a lot of 2nd places should also give a positive impact on teams like Rabobank, Wikipedia and so on :-)
I hope Sammy can do me proud as he can still end up very high in the individual rankings aswell :-)
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:26
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With Eurosport - I'm happy the team is out of the relegation spots. My worst case scenario is that we are relegated by a few points. Points Cavendish would've probably picked up if the team had raced in Qatar. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:27
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fenian_1234 wrote:
With Eurosport - I'm happy the team is out of the relegation spots. My worst case scenario is that we are relegated by a few points. Points Cavendish would've probably picked up if the team had raced in Qatar.
Youre not out of relegation yet, 2 go down remember
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:31
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Yeah I would put you in a heavy risk zone still...
Team B&O will move up a bit due to the hilly races, and probably also a couple of good results from Pliuschkin.
Warner Brothers will dissapear from the bottom after the Tour de France due to 6 stagewins or so from Boonen.
So it's pretty much down to Suzuki, Eurosport and British Airways. Imo Suzuki has the better team of those 3...
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:32
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I thought I was a few points above American Suzuki. Obviously not - Eurosport are closing in on them though. |
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| mrlol |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:32
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After this good Vuelta having such a big gap to the other teams now, and looking at my calendar for the rest of the season, I'm actually starting to built a little bit of confidence that I migth have a shot at winning the PT this season.
If I've still got a gap after the Tour (which will be a bit of a trouble), it'll be looking rather good:
Bennati hasn't got much left: Austria, and Seine-Marne-Seine + Fourmies hoping for a sprint
Then both Cunego and di Luca will be doing the Badaling, Emilia, Lombardia and Japan cup obviously, and for Cunego you can add Austria to that list.
For the rest... de la fuente migth score a bit in Asturias, Marinangeli hoping for a few points in Germany and TdF, Rogers in the Chrono des herbiers and thats about it.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:35
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In terms of relegation, American Suzuki are going to be hoping for a big TDF for Karpets, British Airways need a big TDF + TONE for Devolder, and Eurosport need pts wherever possible
Id be surprised if Warner Brothers and B&O find themselves in the mix
Edited by SportingNonsense on 14-11-2009 17:36
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-11-2009 17:36
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It's impossible to catch you Mrlol... The TdF will hardly be giving as much points to the winners as the others have I think. The competition is much tougher...
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