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PCM 2008 First impressions
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| Hasselinhoo |
Posted on 20-06-2008 21:19
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| marble |
Posted on 20-06-2008 21:42
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Does how many days they have raced still affect the riders? |
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| Aeclipse |
Posted on 21-06-2008 19:48
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i really really really like the new game. its better then 07. was it worth to download n buy it.  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-06-2008 20:07
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I hope one of the things they're working on for the patch is the breakaways.
There are two problems with them:
1. The pack keeps them on too short a leash. not as short as last year, but still too short.
2. the idiots in the break keep attacking each other over and over and over and over and (you get the idea)
That completely ruins the gameplay for me.
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| Monkfish |
Posted on 28-06-2008 14:44
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1. I agree with last message gameplay for breakaways is rubbish constant attacking all the way through the stage
2. Water bottle system although nice idea doesn't work well i just played two dead flat stages, impossible to control peloton which fragmented into three or four large groups. Then when i sent my domestique back for water he kept getting stuck in the back group leaving my leader on his own and without water.
3. sprints are and look terrible(riders actually look like their going slower)
4. Fitness training of rides is better but specialisation training is worse especially the fact their is no stage race training(can't believe they missed that in testing)
5. i would keep playing pcm 07 till some decent patches come out, there is another thread on here which asks whether your computer is good enough for pcm 08, i would go the other way and say pcm 08 is not good enough for your computer?
p.s also track cycling is quite fun but barely more than a mini game |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-06-2008 14:51
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Monkfish wrote:
1. I agree with last message gameplay for breakaways is rubbish constant attacking all the way through the stage
Hopefully it'll be fixed. it's just stupid.
About my previous comments of breaks never making it, suddenly in my new career, a lot more are making it. if this pace keeps up, I'll retract my previous statemente and chalk it down to a huge coincidence
Monkfish wrote:
2. Water bottle system although nice idea doesn't work well i just played two dead flat stages, impossible to control peloton which fragmented into three or four large groups. Then when i sent my domestique back for water he kept getting stuck in the back group leaving my leader on his own and without water.
that's the idea with water: don't send them back at bad times, like when the wind is causing bordoures 
Monkfish wrote:
3. sprints are and look terrible(riders actually look like their going slower).
sprints in flat stages are shown in slow motion, as in previous PCMs. the problem I see with them is that the sprinters' trains are too far back so a lot of times someone from the train that's pulling the pack wins the sprint. which is extremely stupid.
Monkfish wrote:
4. Fitness training of rides is better but specialisation training is worse especially the fact their is no stage race training(can't believe they missed that in testing)
they didn't miss it, it's on purpouse, but I agree it's not perfect. I'd prefer to know how I can specifically increase stamina.
just my views
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 28-06-2008 14:52
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Track cycling barely more then a mini game - have you played it online yet?
I've played track online more than I've played career offline. It's so much fun
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| JustinWK |
Posted on 28-06-2008 15:07
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issoisso wrote:
I hope one of the things they're working on for the patch is the breakaways.
There are two problems with them:
1. The pack keeps them on too short a leash. not as short as last year, but still too short.
2. the idiots in the break keep attacking each other over and over and over and over and (you get the idea)
That completely ruins the gameplay for me.
Im 50/50 on this, in the TDU I did have the feeling that going in a break was useless, and also there I had the attacking. But I just did the GP Marseille and there the break made it and also everyone cooperated and it wasnt until the last climb that the strongest riders attacked, causing the weaker ones to be left behind which is realistic imo
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| issoisso |
Posted on 28-06-2008 15:10
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JustinWK wrote:
issoisso wrote:
I hope one of the things they're working on for the patch is the breakaways.
There are two problems with them:
1. The pack keeps them on too short a leash. not as short as last year, but still too short.
2. the idiots in the break keep attacking each other over and over and over and over and (you get the idea)
That completely ruins the gameplay for me.
Im 50/50 on this, in the TDU I did have the feeling that going in a break was useless, and also there I had the attacking. But I just did the GP Marseille and there the break made it and also everyone cooperated and it wasnt until the last climb that the strongest riders attacked, causing the weaker ones to be left behind which is realistic imo
Let's compare this to real life. In the TDU, every break was doomed. even the stage with the 8% climb finished in a sprint. In the GP La Marseillaise, a break made it
so far, so good
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| JustinWK |
Posted on 28-06-2008 15:16
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hahah well ok didnt that it was like that in the TDU this year aswell ops:
No but in pcm06 I remember groups going to the finishline even when there was a good sprinter in it but now the strongest climbers really try to lose eachother on a tough part of the race
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 29-06-2008 11:22
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It seems that Ill only be able to play PCM08 as a Track Cycling game. 3D gameplay is impossible. Even on 'minimum' setting and a windowed screen, the memory usage is muich higher than previous editions and the graphics look better than they did on minimum in previous versions. Which basically means laggy and choppy gameplay that is just not bareable.
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| Jape |
Posted on 29-06-2008 19:09
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Hmm i was actually a bit suprised i could run it on 'decent' settings. However i had to downgrade to a older forceware driver since with the newest driver it keeps rebooting my system after x minutes in 3d mode. Have only played a couple of stages the last coupple of days but overall i think the gameplay improved a lot. I like the fact that there are more attacks and not one single attack of all favourites which has a 99% chance of making it. Also the new bar system is something i like more then the previous system. Im not convinced yet of the new training system though, in previous versions i liked the fact that i had total control over the training, maybe i need some time getting used to it. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-06-2008 22:31
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A few more thoughts on breaks:
first mountain stage of the Giro. Vansummeren has the rosa which he won in a break. none of the favorites wants to assume the chase and Lotto doesn't want to make it too hard for Van Summeren. So the break gets a 15 minute lead.
eventually the pace picks up and the favorites start duelling, but the break is too far up
Valjavec (the same guy who wins every single mountain break in my games ) wins from the break and jumps from 11 minutes behind on GC to the overall lead
I love this game.
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 30-06-2008 22:50
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Thats what Sella did Am i right  |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 30-06-2008 22:53
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i find it way to shiny 
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| issoisso |
Posted on 30-06-2008 22:54
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sort of. what sella did is what I myself did the next stage: a guy in a break the whole stage. the entire stage in a break.
caught on the finish line :cry:
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 30-06-2008 22:57
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issoisso wrote:
sort of. what sella did is what I myself did the next stage: a guy in a break the whole stage. the entire stage in a break.
caught on the finish line :cry:
ooooow i know the feeling. that sucks
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| Mads_0 |
Posted on 30-06-2008 23:51
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issoisso wrote:
A few more thoughts on breaks:
first mountain stage of the Giro. Vansummeren has the rosa which he won in a break. none of the favorites wants to assume the chase and Lotto doesn't want to make it too hard for Van Summeren. So the break gets a 15 minute lead.
eventually the pace picks up and the favorites start duelling, but the break is too far up
Valjavec (the same guy who wins every single mountain break in my games ) wins from the break and jumps from 11 minutes behind on GC to the overall lead
I love this game.
I've been thinking about breakaways a little. Could it be that they've improved the AI to a degree where the overall situation has a huge impact on whether the break succeeds or not?
What i mean is, smaller stageraces and oneday races. Breakaways wont make it that often because in a small stagerace a lead, if only a slender one, can often be defended. So it's more dangerous to let a break ride home. In oneday races it's the only thing there is to ride for, the stagewin, therefore they wont let them go too far.
In the GTs, later in them that is, the break seem to make it a lot more. Which is fairly realistic i think. I'm not saying it's perfect, but i don't think it's as bad as we first assumed either. |
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| trueblue3044 |
Posted on 01-07-2008 02:57
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How is the db editor? |
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| alex153 |
Posted on 01-07-2008 09:29
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I've just played my first Grand Tour, Giro d'Italia with CSC in a career, and I have to say the new gameplay is awesome. Close mountain stages with a lot of action, breakaways going away on the stage after a a mountain stage, nice sprint finishes and realistic results
Oh, and it went quite well I think considering who my leader was
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