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Broken features of the game
The Hobbit
It didn't in PCM12, dunno bout 13, guessing they didn't change it though.
Oh man I'm breaking the rules again, sorry... Embarassed
 
KrisDK
[edited out by me, I need to read the first post better]
Edited by KrisDK on 01-10-2013 15:26
 
Lachi
@ KrisDK: I know it is hard to read the whole thread, that is why I summarize everything in the first 4 posts. If you don't even read that, then why even post?
 
ShortsNL
@ Lachi,

I saw you have a Wish List included so I'll give a suggestion on a feature that I think is not broken right now, but definitely underdeveloped and barely working.

One good thing happened this year, and that is that you can negotiate goals for money and that performance in these goals seems to affect next year's budget. This should stay. However, now that you no longer have race winnings, you barely have enough money to hire staff. My suggestion is a complete remodel of the sponsor system.

-There needs to be co-sponsors again, together with minor sponsors. Not just one co sponsor per team, but up to ten minor sponsors as well. IRL, Vacansoleil has 29. Belkin has about 23.

-Searching for sponsors should change. You should be able to hire a Marketing agent full-time just like a Doctor or a Scout.

-Searching with a Marketing agent should work like a Scout, where you can send him to a region and have him stay there, to find minor sponsors, along with main and co-sponsors if you wish.

-Minor sponsors will sponsor your team for a small amount of money, so you can increase your budget by a little bit. This will pay for the marketing agent, and allows to you to hire more staff and so on.

-Negotiations with minor sponsors should include riding in a certain race of interest every year, or to add their logo to your outfit.

-We need an in-game 3d equipment editor where you can litterally paste the logo of your sponsors onto your equipment.

-One could consider a rule where outfit changes are only allowed once a season like real life, so new main/co-sponsors and minor sponsors on your equipment can start sponsoring you throughout the year as well, but only once.

-Each minor sponsor contract should of course be renewable and renegotiable if you please, depending on results etc.

I think this would increase the realism, the depth, and the gameplay of sponsors and managing the budget dramatically, as well as make shirt editing more accessible and easy, just like they did with the Season Planner which they also incorporated in-game.
 
Lachi
There is a wish list thread already, I suggest to post it there. I just collected the previously made wishes so that nobody has to read the whole thread. Your post on the other hand is way too off-topic, and way to long, so I will not collect it. Sorry for your trouble but I am sure you can find the matching thread.
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
I haven't played 13, but some that persist in other versions. I think you said you would filter out if it was resolved:

1. Hilly time trials are too easy to win because the AI doesn't balance effort well. I think this is true of flat time trials as well but much worse on ones with hills.

2. Weird rider signings - e.g. Cavendish to Euskatel and also major riders going unsigned

3. Not sure you would count this, maybe more wish list - but it would be nice if more of the stats displayed on the rider screen, you can see his points history but why not the days raced and the number of wins. Might require some additions to the Palmares table but doesn't seem like that big a deal.
 
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vismitananda
-In Sprint finishes, I get annoyed when my sprinter is behind this other team's sprinter, but couldn't overtake him, although they had almost identical stats in sprinting, put 99% effort and in tip top shape. It seems that he's getting blocked by a stone.

-Better AI animation. Also Some AI's don't want to help inside the breakaway, and you couldn't even complain at them.

-No. 1 Bib should be worn by the rider who won it last season if he's around. Not that who's having the potential to win the race. It will give some realistic setting.
-Pain is temporary, Quitting lasts forever-
 
Lachi
@Ulrich Ulriksen: I don't plan to filter. This thread is in the PCM 13 section of this forum for a reason.

@vismitananda: "It seems that he's getting blocked by a stone." is not really a description for a broken feature or problem of the game but rather your perception of the game or inability to play the game.

I never had a problem with AI riders not working, so it must be a wrong perception or wrong playing from you again. And I have discussed it often before, what would it help you, if you could complain? If the computer does not 'want' work, it will not work, no matter if you complain or not.

But the thing about the wrong jersey number is a huge error of the game. I never noticed because I don't care but still, how could Cyanide have missed such a simple thing? I will put that in my list.
But I think in real life cycling, the numbers will be given by the team. So the team of the lasts years winner will get numbers 1-9 and the riders get the numbers according to the entry list, right?
Edited by Lachi on 04-10-2013 21:49
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
@Lachi -


Lachi wrote:
@dacascos: Some good point you wrote there. I will omit the points which are not present in PCM13 any more



I think you did offer to filter in this case (post 19). But no problem, was only trying to be helpful,
 
The Hobbit
Lachi wrote:
@vismitananda: "It seems that he's getting blocked by a stone." is not really a description for a broken feature or problem of the game but rather your perception of the game or inability to play the game.


It is a pretty bad simile but it is a broken feature, sometimes, but not all the times, despite telling riders to sprint they simply continue to follow until you change their action to something else and then back to sprint. This often happens to me in downhill sprints like the WC and MSR. It can be rather annoying as the only fix is quite slow and ruins your sprint as you need to fall back then sprint again.
 
Lachi
Thank you for clarification. I will add it including your work-around, although it is not perfect.
 
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