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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-04-2013 11:36
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alex344 wrote:
I wouldn't use Training Camps myself since the AI never uses them. Nevertheless a great win (first of many we hope) for José Joaquim Rojas. Renshaw and Hushovd are your biggest competition but they didn't show up for the sprint. Weird.
Also Nelson Oliveira KOM holder awesome 
Thats only shown in images. I didnt use any training camp. Its just for realism of story. Thanks! Yup,great win for Rojas!
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| Selwink |
Posted on 26-04-2013 11:49
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Good job by Rojas! Hope he can hold on and maybe even win the overall
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| The Rider |
Posted on 26-04-2013 12:03
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admirschleck wrote:
alex344 wrote:
I wouldn't use Training Camps myself since the AI never uses them. Nevertheless a great win (first of many we hope) for José Joaquim Rojas. Renshaw and Hushovd are your biggest competition but they didn't show up for the sprint. Weird.
Also Nelson Oliveira KOM holder awesome 
Thats only shown in images. I didnt use any training camp. Its just for realism of story. Thanks! Yup,great win for Rojas! 
Yep, never really understood the argument for people not using training camps, especially in pre season, irl they are used all the time and add great diversity to the game. BTW it is not (you and AI) it is (you against the AI) who control every other team in the race.
Great win though!
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 26-04-2013 13:42
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If the game didn't want you to use Training Camps then why is it included in the game.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 26-04-2013 14:09
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Me, too. No stat-boosting-camps, but a pre-season camp to get the form going without wasting race days is handy  |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-04-2013 18:35
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Ian Butler wrote:
Me, too. No stat-boosting-camps, but a pre-season camp to get the form going
Same. I agree also with sutty but its okay,everyone has different tactis and stuff. Thanks everyone for following,tonight reports (i'm a bit tired right now)
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-04-2013 18:41
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Selwink wrote:
Good job by Rojas! Hope he can hold on and maybe even win the overall
We have Visconti/Capecchi for that,in this race.
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Posted on 26-04-2013 18:45
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good luck
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-04-2013 18:47
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krisa wrote:
good luck
Thanks,hope you'll follow!
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| krisa |
Posted on 26-04-2013 18:50
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I must follow already much stories but I will track this tread. Then I can follow. and please don't go so fast as Ian
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-04-2013 18:57
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krisa wrote:
I must follow already much stories but I will track this tread. Then I can follow. and please don't go so fast as Ian 
Well,i planned this to be a slow, but story with much interesting news/screenshots/stuffs. I hope everyone will enjoy it. Paying attention to every detail is cool,imo.
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-04-2013 19:35
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I've just won 2nd stage of TdU with 1-2 . I did report but i quited fastly,seems like too easy on hard,transfering to "Expert" from now. New stage 2 tonight. Thanks for following , Admir.
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Posted on 26-04-2013 19:50
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woow, Very nice start for the team and rojas ! |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-04-2013 22:04
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Csabi13 wrote:
woow, Very nice start for the team and rojas !
Thanks man,well,he is,with Renshaw,the best sprinter on TdU,so we expected that. Thanks for following! Report soon!
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 26-04-2013 22:44
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Stage no.2
Great stage for a breakaway. Also,attack on last hill can bring us win/new leader jersey,we'll see!
At the start of the stage,there was few attacks. Only one of them was succesful. The one which riders was : Sinkeldam (Argos) , Erviti (Movistar) and Lightart (Vacansoleil)>
Few minutes after 1st group created,they was at intermediate sprint. This time,Sinkeldam got it.
Everything was fine. After few kilometers, Grivko attacked and wanted to join to 1st group.
And yes,he got them,now there is one compact group.
At 2nd intermediate sprint,Lightart and Sinkeldam was fighting again for position,this time , Lightart got it.
At the same time,in main group,Saxo Tinkoff and Blacno ProCycling was chasing,trying to make gap smaller.
34 kms to go,everything is fine,1'40" gap,Erviti saw that none has power enough to follow his rhytm and he attacked.
20 kms to go,Erviti is holding on 20", but they can't get him!
10kms of trying to get them , and finally reaching that at last climb. E2 got E1 , but P is closing to both of them. Its going to be funny!
After peloton getting attack,Visconti,with "+5" fitness,decided to attack!
He had huge advantage! Something about 40"
And group started sprinting:
As Visconti did.
Aaaand Giovanni got it! But how big will gap be?
Mass sprint in group finished by win of Gavazzi. This smells of 30+ seconds of gap,we'll see.
Stage results
| Rank | Name | Team | Time | | 1 | Giovanni Visconti | Movistar Team | 2h41'38 | | 2 | Francesco Gavazzi | Astana Pro Team | + 32 | | 3 | José Joaquín Rojas | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 4 | Steele Von Hoff | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 5 | Gianni Meersman | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. |
Spoiler 6 Andrea Palini Lampre - Merida s.t.
7 Jonathan Cantwell Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
8 Tony Gallopin RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
9 Rory Sutherland Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
10 Matthew Lloyd Lampre - Merida s.t.
11 Davide Appollonio AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
12 Christopher Sutton Sky Procycling s.t.
13 Mikaël Chérel AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
14 Steve Chainel AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
15 Michael Matthews Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
16 Thor Hushovd BMC Racing Team s.t.
17 Miguel Ubeto Lampre - Merida s.t.
18 Dimitriy Muravyev Astana Pro Team s.t.
19 Ángel Vicioso Katusha Team s.t.
20 Michel Kreder Garmin - Sharp s.t.
21 Matti Breschel Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
22 Boy Van Poppel Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
23 Cameron Wurf Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
24 Gorka Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
25 Mark Renshaw Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
26 Matthew Hayman Sky Procycling s.t.
27 Stuart O'Grady Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
28 Alexandr Kolobnev Katusha Team s.t.
29 Alessandro De Marchi Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
30 Daniele Ratto Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
31 Pablo Urtasun Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
32 Yaroslav Popovych RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
33 David Millar Garmin - Sharp s.t.
34 Tom Leezer Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
35 Cameron Meyer Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
36 Arthur Adams Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
37 Massimo Graziato Lampre - Merida s.t.
38 Simon Geschke Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
39 Marco Marcato Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
40 Maarten Tjallingii Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
41 Peter Stetina Garmin - Sharp s.t.
42 Marco Pinotti BMC Racing Team s.t.
43 Vasil Kiryienka Sky Procycling s.t.
44 Adam Hansen Lotto Belisol s.t.
45 Fabio Sabatini Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
46 Ian Stannard Sky Procycling s.t.
47 Tomas Vaitkus Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
48 Valentin Iglinskiy AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
49 Andrew Fenn Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
50 Alexey Tsatevitch Katusha Team s.t.
51 Xavier Florencio Katusha Team s.t.
52 David Tanner Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
53 Jay McCarthy Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
54 Assan Bazayev Astana Pro Team s.t.
55 Luka Mezgec Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
56 Michael Mørkøv Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
57 Graeme Brown Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
58 Jack Bobridge Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
59 Elia Favilli Lampre - Merida s.t.
60 Wesley Sulzberger Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
61 Maarten Wynants Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
62 Rüdiger Selig Katusha Team s.t.
63 Serge Pauwels Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
64 Joseph Dombrowski Sky Procycling s.t.
65 Matteo Montaguti AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
66 Eros Capecchi Movistar Team s.t.
67 Marcus Burghardt BMC Racing Team s.t.
68 Jonathan Castroviejo Movistar Team s.t.
69 Alexey Lutsenko Astana Pro Team s.t.
70 Chris Anker Sørensen Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
71 Adam Blythe BMC Racing Team s.t.
72 Simon Spilak Katusha Team s.t.
73 Enrique Sanz Movistar Team s.t.
74 Iván Gutiérrez Movistar Team s.t.
75 Jan Bakelants RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
76 Nelson Oliveira RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
77 Pim Ligthart Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
78 Ramon Sinkeldam Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
79 Salvatore Puccio Sky Procycling s.t.
80 Imanol Erviti Movistar Team s.t.
81 Rinaldo Nocentini AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
82 Andriy Grivko Astana Pro Team s.t.
83 Bob Jungels RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
84 Danilo Hondo RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
85 Jonas Aaen Jørgensen Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
86 Kris Boeckmans Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
87 Ioannis Tamouridis Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
88 Julien Vermote Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
89 Kenny Dehaes Lotto Belisol s.t.
90 Maarten Neyens Lotto Belisol s.t.
91 Vicente Reynès Lotto Belisol s.t.
92 Frederik Veuchelen Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
93 Guillaume Boivin Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
94 Anthony Roux FDJ s.t.
95 Tarik Chaoufi Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
96 Mitchell Docker Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
97 Dominique Rollin FDJ s.t.
98 Nikolas Maes Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
99 Mikhail Ignatiev Katusha Team s.t.
100 Luca Wackermann Lampre - Merida s.t.
101 Arnold Jeannesson FDJ s.t.
102 Iljo Keisse Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
103 William Clarke Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
104 Mathieu Sprick Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
105 Danilo Wyss BMC Racing Team s.t.
106 Gert Dockx Lotto Belisol s.t.
107 Klaas Lodewyck BMC Racing Team s.t.
108 Andreas Klier Garmin - Sharp s.t.
109 Johan Vansummeren Garmin - Sharp s.t.
110 Francis Mourey FDJ s.t.
111 Gabriel Rasch Sky Procycling s.t.
112 Dmitriy Gruzdev Astana Pro Team s.t.
113 Tobias Ludvigsson Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
114 Frantisek Rabon Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
115 Markel Irizar RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
116 Michael Schär BMC Racing Team s.t.
117 Rubén Pérez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
118 Jakob Rathe Garmin - Sharp s.t.
119 Kevin Seeldraeyers Astana Pro Team s.t.
120 Lloyd Mondory AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
121 Stefano Agostini Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
122 Mikel Astarloza Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
123 Ion Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
124 Brian Bulgac Lotto Belisol s.t.
125 Willem Wauters Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
126 Murilo Fischer FDJ s.t.
127 Laurent Pichon FDJ s.t.
128 Jens Debusschere Lotto Belisol s.t.
129 David Boucher FDJ s.t.
130 Edward King Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
131 Mirko Selvaggi Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
132 Adriano Malori Lampre - Merida s.t.
133 Cheng Ji Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
General Classification
| Rank | Name | Team | Time | | 1 | Giovanni Visconti | Movistar Team | 6h08'38 | | 2 | José Joaquín Rojas | Movistar Team | + 28 | | 3 | Jakob Rathe | Garmin - Sharp | + 33 | | 4 | Francesco Gavazzi | Astana Pro Team | + 36 | | 5 | Jonathan Cantwell | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. |
Spoiler | 6 | Pim Ligthart | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | + 37 | | 7 | Ramon Sinkeldam | Team Argos - Shimano | s.t. | | 8 | Steele Von Hoff | Garmin - Sharp | + 38 | | 9 | Imanol Erviti | Movistar Team | + 40 | | 10 | Gert Dockx | Lotto Belisol | + 41 | | 11 | Gianni Meersman | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 42 | | 12 | Christopher Sutton | Sky Procycling | s.t. | | 13 | Davide Appollonio | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 14 | Miguel Ubeto | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 15 | Tony Gallopin | RadioShack - Leopard | s.t. | | 16 | Michael Matthews | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 17 | Boy Van Poppel | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 18 | Mark Renshaw | Blanco Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 19 | Matti Breschel | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 20 | Thor Hushovd | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 21 | Andrea Palini | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 22 | Alexandr Kolobnev | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 23 | Michel Kreder | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 24 | Matthew Hayman | Sky Procycling | s.t. | | 25 | Ángel Vicioso | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 26 | Gorka Izagirre | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 27 | Marco Marcato | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 28 | Cameron Wurf | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 29 | Stuart O'Grady | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 30 | Massimo Graziato | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 31 | Pablo Urtasun | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 32 | Dimitriy Muravyev | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 33 | Rüdiger Selig | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 34 | Tomas Vaitkus | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 35 | Luka Mezgec | Team Argos - Shimano | s.t. | | 36 | Elia Favilli | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 37 | Fabio Sabatini | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 38 | Alexey Tsatevitch | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 39 | David Millar | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 40 | Daniele Ratto | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 41 | Yaroslav Popovych | RadioShack - Leopard | s.t. | | 42 | Adam Blythe | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 43 | Alessandro De Marchi | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 44 | Matthew Lloyd | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 45 | Wesley Sulzberger | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 46 | Cameron Meyer | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 47 | Peter Stetina | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 48 | Mikaël Chérel | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 49 | Xavier Florencio | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 50 | Rory Sutherland | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 51 | Arthur Adams | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 52 | Ian Stannard | Sky Procycling | s.t. | | 53 | Marco Pinotti | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 54 | Tom Leezer | Blanco Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 55 | Steve Chainel | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 56 | Kenny Dehaes | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 57 | Vasil Kiryienka | Sky Procycling | s.t. | | 58 | Jack Bobridge | Blanco Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 59 | Graeme Brown | Blanco Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 60 | Enrique Sanz | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 61 | Adam Hansen | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 62 | Joseph Dombrowski | Sky Procycling | s.t. | | 63 | David Tanner | Blanco Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 64 | Maarten Tjallingii | Blanco Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 65 | Maarten Wynants | Blanco Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 66 | Eros Capecchi | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 67 | Simon Geschke | Team Argos - Shimano | s.t. | | 68 | Valentin Iglinskiy | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 69 | Klaas Lodewyck | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 70 | Salvatore Puccio | Sky Procycling | s.t. | | 71 | Andrew Fenn | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 72 | Lloyd Mondory | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 73 | Iván Gutiérrez | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 74 | Jay McCarthy | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 75 | Serge Pauwels | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 76 | Johan Vansummeren | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 77 | Mitchell Docker | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 78 | Mikhail Ignatiev | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 79 | Matteo Montaguti | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 80 | Guillaume Boivin | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 81 | Michael Mørkøv | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 82 | Gabriel Rasch | Sky Procycling | s.t. | | 83 | Willem Wauters | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 84 | Maarten Neyens | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 85 | Vicente Reynès | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 86 | Kris Boeckmans | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 87 | Rinaldo Nocentini | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 88 | Marcus Burghardt | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 89 | Francis Mourey | FDJ | s.t. | | 90 | Danilo Wyss | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 91 | Luca Wackermann | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 92 | Julien Vermote | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 93 | Andreas Klier | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 94 | Laurent Pichon | FDJ | s.t. | | 95 | Murilo Fischer | FDJ | s.t. | | 96 | Jonas Aaen Jørgensen | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 97 | Stefano Agostini | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 98 | Edward King | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 99 | Nikolas Maes | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 100 | William Clarke | Team Argos - Shimano | s.t. | | 101 | Iljo Keisse | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 102 | Jens Debusschere | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 103 | Tobias Ludvigsson | Team Argos - Shimano | s.t. | | 104 | Frantisek Rabon | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 105 | Adriano Malori | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 106 | Michael Schär | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 107 | Brian Bulgac | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 108 | Mirko Selvaggi | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 109 | Cheng Ji | Team Argos - Shimano | s.t. | | 110 | Dominique Rollin | FDJ | + 2'49 | | 111 | Nelson Oliveira | RadioShack - Leopard | + 2'51 | | 112 | Assan Bazayev | Astana Pro Team | + 2'54 | | 113 | Alexey Lutsenko | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 114 | Jonathan Castroviejo | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 115 | Jan Bakelants | RadioShack - Leopard | s.t. | | 116 | Chris Anker Sørensen | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 117 | Bob Jungels | RadioShack - Leopard | s.t. | | 118 | Andriy Grivko | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 119 | Simon Spilak | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 120 | Danilo Hondo | RadioShack - Leopard | s.t. | | 121 | Frederik Veuchelen | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 122 | Ioannis Tamouridis | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 123 | Mathieu Sprick | Team Argos - Shimano | s.t. | | 124 | Tarik Chaoufi | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 125 | Anthony Roux | FDJ | s.t. | | 126 | Arnold Jeannesson | FDJ | s.t. | | 127 | Rubén Pérez | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 128 | Dmitriy Gruzdev | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 129 | Ion Izagirre | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 130 | Kevin Seeldraeyers | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 131 | Markel Irizar | RadioShack - Leopard | s.t. | | 132 | Mikel Astarloza | Euskaltel - Euskadi | s.t. | | 133 | David Boucher | FDJ | s.t. |
I dont know what to do guys. I am too good or something strange is happening with game. We will see in stages that comes. I hope thats not problem with savegame!
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 26-04-2013 23:36
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 26-04-2013 23:48
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Great results for the team in Australia  |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 27-04-2013 00:15
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Thanks guys,im a bit worried,if this continues like this i will have to do somethimg. Again easy win at 3rd stage. Expert mode/Multiplayer passive AI ticked off. Never happened to me,im even bad at hard and now suddenly 3 wins in a row. I will check it tommorow.
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| alex344 |
Posted on 27-04-2013 04:54
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Nice win with Visconti. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-04-2013 08:17
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Great start. TDU is always an easy race, especially with a little fitness from your riders, don't worry  |
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