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The importance of attributes for specific type of riders
Ian Butler
Yes, I realized later, 50 to 85!
 
TheManxMissile
From my experience with the game:

ACC i believe has a small impact during the sprint sections of the game (IS and finish) if any.
In these parts of the game its the only time you can sprint. I have never seen red bar decrease differently to an appreciable level between different riders at this time.
I have not done full testing, just a couple of runs with same stat riders varying the SP rather than the ACC stat.
In each run the higher SP stat achieves both a higher speed, and sprints and a higher speed for longer. They had the same ACC.

I believe ACC only relates to 'open' play i.e. the rest of the stage. And more specifically to attacking.
A rider with a high ACC stat, to me, seems to be able to attack for longer (red bar decreases slower). They can also 'burn' high pace for longer as part of a lead-out or relay (above 85 effort of course, otherwise its RES).

And this effect cannot be attributed to any other stat, but in a sprint section it can be.

I hope that makes sense.
ACC - no (or decreased) effect in sprint sections. Effect as part of attacking and very high efforts in general sections.

and as an addition
SP - also dictates how long a rider can sprint at higher speeds, and how quickly they can get up to speed.

Ofcourse i could be wrong as i hvnt done major testing. But it would explain my observations and simple test results
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Ian Butler
There was some testing, if I recall correctly, that indeed the ACC stat makes the red bar decrease slower. So in a sprint, it won't determine the maximum sprint speed, but you will be able to sprint longer.
 
TheManxMissile
Ian Butler wrote:
There was some testing, if I recall correctly, that indeed the ACC stat makes the red bar decrease slower. So in a sprint, it won't determine the maximum sprint speed, but you will be able to sprint longer.


Yes i know, but what i'm saying is that the sprint sections of a stage i believe work differently.
Only here does the SP stat have any effect and meaning, and i think (from what i have seen) is that it also replaces the ACC stat (to some degree) when the Sprint button has been pressed.
Something like:
Rate of Red Bar Decrease = (SP+ACC)/x
with x being some balancing ratio in the same way MO and HL work.
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issoisso
Alakagom wrote:
Yep, flat stat has zero effect in the TT's. Quite amusingly, but well nothing that can be done.


That's a very good thing

A rider's TT is very heavily reliant on their aerodynamic position on the TT bike, which relies on having very flexible back and stomach muscles. So you can have a lot of power and be very fast on the flat in a road bike but not on a TT bike (think Vansummeren) or the opposite, be very fast on a TT bike on account of being extremely aerodynamic but not very fast at all on the flat in a road bike (think Leipheimer)

If flat counted in a TT you'd have no way to make the separation
Edited by issoisso on 02-04-2013 20:40
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