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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 18-06-2011 15:03
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Aren't we all helpful 
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| Heine |
Posted on 18-06-2011 15:05
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Haha, noone can say that we are slow to help :-p
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-06-2011 15:07
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| untal |
Posted on 18-06-2011 15:08
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| Kami |
Posted on 18-06-2011 15:20
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SotD weote:
I don't see the problem in mentioning talents either. The DB is there for anyone. No need to list up the domestique riders, who could be good value for 50-70.000 but the talents who could be leading riders of tomorrow are already printed on the mind of 80% of the managers I would say... No need to hide those. They will reach the required wages no matter what.
Well, there you have it.
1. They will already reach their required wage.
2. 80% of the managers.
They will be expensive enough like they are now. The remaining 20% of managers who didn't find them are mostly new managers probably. Those new managers 2.500.000 and adding a note like 'Future Giro winner' will make his price go up even more.
Point being, SN could easily add a collumn to the DB so you can sort the new riders out. But he doesn't. There are always going to be riders overlooked. Last year, a future 77 AVG was a free agent.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 18:01
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SN does add a column called New riders, but he deletes it pre-release so that people get excited about finding new talents themselves without others shouting out about them.
If only two guys had found someone with say, 77 potential in hill, and one shouted out about it, but had no desire to buy him himself, then it ruins the transfers a bit for the other guy who was going to buy him, cheaply.
I frown down upon pointing out potential stats of riders, new and old, in public, as it has been said, it increases their value, whilst making people lazy in searching. The stat file has been added, which lets everyone put in the work to find good riders, so no one has any excuse.
SN doesn't appear to have yet said this, so this is important to anyone looking to buy future talents:
There has been a change to stat increases.
It has been said. Let no man say otherwise.
Instead of another Madrazo situation (which I, personally, had no problem with), where a rider goes from level 3 to maximum in a season, there has been a limit placed on amount of increases in experience that can be undergone in one season.
There is NO limit going from 1.00 to 3.99.
You cannot go from 2.00 to 4.00+ in one season.
You can go from 2.00 to 3.99 in a season.
You cannot go from 3.00 to 4.100 in one season.
You can go from 3.00 to 4.99 in a season.
In other words, you can get a talent from 1.00 up two levels, but you can't get a level 2.00 up two levels. Or a 3.00 to maximum in a season. This is to prevent an unrealistic mad increase in stats of a rider.
If you don't understand, please ask, and I'd be happy to explain in my mumbled jumbled words. Or give examples.
Also another announcement, that is particularly in reference to one of my teams: Focused Cycling. As I quite like developing riders that are overlooked, I have agreed with SN that I will be given the updated DB at the end of the transfers, and will be allowed to take on a number of young/old riders whom I want to, that have been overlooked. That means that Focused Cycling, come the end of public transfers, will end with less than 20 riders (8 planned riders), and will then take on the rest in guys no one appears to want. No one should have an issue with this, as you'll have had the two weeks of transfers to find guys you want, and the few days now. I just want to announce it, so no one can complain.
And thus ends my waffling, mindless announcements. Enjoy the DB searching one and all!
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| Heine |
Posted on 18-06-2011 18:05
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I like the changes to experience gathering, much more realistic in my opinion. SO if I get this right, you will need a minimum of 3 years to get a rider to the highest level 
About Focused Cycling, sounds like a good idea, are there any chanse that they might sell one of their riders... Like Klemme (A)
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 18:08
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Heine: experience gathering is spot on. 3 years minimum.
Focused doesn't have Klemme... I do have Mehr-Wenige! Who is more awesome.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 18:16
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If only two guys had found someone with say, 77 potential in hill, and one shouted out about it, but had no desire to buy him himself, then it ruins the transfers a bit for the other guy who was going to buy him, cheaply.
This.
Also when I rider goes from say EXP level 1 to 2 he gets an automatic stat increase, or does it only increasse once the season is over?
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| Heine |
Posted on 18-06-2011 18:18
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I wrote wrong, I meant Mehr-Wenige :-p Sell to meeee!
valverde: Once season is over
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| viking90 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 18:30
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Many good Swedish riders are free agents, I like that. (y)
Looking forward to the transfer season!
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 18-06-2011 19:25
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That's a really good effort SN, Congratulations, and thanks a lot for this wonder
And by the look of some comments, I think I'm going to leave some people disapointed in the transfer season. On the other hand, I'm sure there will be lots of oportunities for paybacks so, in the end, we'll all have a lot of...
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 18-06-2011 19:36
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Valverde, all of the stat increases happen after the season has concluded
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 19:58
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valverde321 wrote:
If only two guys had found someone with say, 77 potential in hill, and one shouted out about it, but had no desire to buy him himself, then it ruins the transfers a bit for the other guy who was going to buy him, cheaply.
This.
I'm just saying that, although there is no rule against it, informing people about talents (as has already happened here) is quite annoying to those of us who want to bid on those talents. It means that other guys who haven't bothered to check the DB get an insight into who is actually good. And that means that more guys will bid on specific riders, which increases the cost of them.
Telling a person about a riders potential stats to ensure they do bid on a rider, in an attempt to increase that riders value, when the person you tell previously had no inclination to bid on the rider will also result in punishment.
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| Rin |
Posted on 18-06-2011 19:59
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I am happy with the new talents/riders, the countries I would like to have in my team (superior number, not just these countries) have also good talents but I doubt I will get one of them 
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 20:04
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Heine wrote:
I wrote wrong, I meant Mehr-Wenige :-p Sell to meeee!
That's the first enquiry for one of my riders, based on my team's philosophy of trying to get riders who are ignored a place on a good team, you should probably send me an offer during the transfer season. I will listen to all, and once I chose an offer, I stick with it.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 21:01
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I will listen to all, and once I chose an offer, I stick with it.
This I find much more annoying than anything else in the transfer season, when teams agree deals in secret then refuse to change when other teams come along.
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| dave92 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 21:10
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to me, its up to the manager. If i negotiate a swap with someone via pm its nice to know we wont have the deal break down because someone else swoops in. People who are being bid on in threads are one thing but pm deals are different to me.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 21:50
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mb2612 wrote:
I will listen to all, and once I chose an offer, I stick with it.
This I find much more annoying than anything else in the transfer season, when teams agree deals in secret then refuse to change when other teams come along.
What is more annoying to me is agreeing something in public, to then have the other manager switch deals at the drop of a hat. At least I am not two faced, and stick to my guns. Usually if someone else comes along after a deal has been posted, it's because they don't really have a clue who they wanted to target, and are just going for whomever pops up. I prefer someone who has a plan. At the end of the day, it's all up to the manager as dave said. Just like it's up to me not to deal with certain managers, and to prefer others.
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 18-06-2011 22:19
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If I agree a deal via PM, I'll usually try and stick to it. However, if someone comes in with a much better offer once it's posted, then I think it's common sense to consider it.
Think I always try to put in Win-Win offers when getting riders, so that when it does go public it's hard for someone to better the offer. |
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