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| SotD |
Posted on 11-02-2011 08:56
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untal wrote:
Okay, thanks Karpets, you surely are deserving what I'm paying for you.
We can trade him for Castaño at the end of the season  He's only being payed 250k 
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 11-02-2011 09:11
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SotD wrote:
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Castano lost 40 seconds to Dekker last year, so he may well hold Dekker off, I reckon Castano could even be on the podium going into the fall over stage.
SotD goes one way, you go the other. I think youll be closer to what happens, but to lose less than 20 seconds to Uran and Pluchkin in a 45km ITT - that would take quite an overperformance, even in Castano's overperforming standards.
Yeah that's not going to happen. Rogers is also almost a given for taking 2+ minutes, unless this is a very fast TT...
I glanced at last years result and saw that he took 4th overall after the TT, although I guess last year the field was much weaker
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-02-2011 09:39
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I have Rogers at 5th GC this year and Castaño at best at 7th... Can't see him keeping well enough against the clock to outperform neither of the "TT'ers" in the top 10. In an ideal world Rogers is not at the top of his game, and Popovych is doing quite poor, in that case a 5th would be the goal for Castaño, but as high as possible is what its all about. I have to minimize pointlosses on Vesuvio and Pearl, also on La Gazzetta if we could do that.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 11-02-2011 09:43
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going on last years result you hold off Dekker and Rogers, so I reckon you will end up 4th, I guess we will see in a couple of days
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-02-2011 09:50
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True by 4 seconds or so, but I don't think that will be the case this time around... It would take a miracle to withstand that 2 times in a row. Rogers should be around 3mins faster in a TT like this I reckon.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 11-02-2011 11:24
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SotD wrote:
True by 4 seconds or so, but I don't think that will be the case this time around... It would take a miracle to withstand that 2 times in a row. Rogers should be around 3mins faster in a TT like this I reckon.
Well, if Rogers beats Castano by 3 minutes, its very unlikely youll lose 2 minute to Karpets and Nibali.
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Keeping an eye on the Carmuese/Nespresso/Energie Diesal/Cafe de Columbia relegation battle (though Starbucks taking the KoM means they have not got completely away). I do get the distinct impression that Cafe de Columbia are slowly being sucked into the mire! Carmuese should be pulling away a bit after this one with Popovich and Roelandts in the flat stages to come.
Based on what theyve got scoring wise, youd think CdC could be pulled into the battle - but really, they may not be doing great, but none of the teams behind are having an especially good race either - maybe Carmeuse at best - and dont necesarilly have the riders to take a good enough points haul in races to come. So I actually reckon theyre pretty safe - with enough of a cushion. It would take a bit of a surprise for Nespresso, Carmeuse and Energie to all go on a strong enough scoring run to move past the Colombians. CdC did manage it last year as Eurosport, but Lombardia is much more a race for the strongmen than the Japan Cup - you wont get a Lovkvist style rider winning in Italy!
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 11-02-2011 17:35
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I think we will be safe - the standard of competition has really jumped this year, so Gomez Marchante has been a far less useful rider.
The lack of a hilly rider really hurts the team - couldn't get one in the transfer season last year - hopefully we'll be able to get one next time if we remain safe.
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-02-2011 18:04
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Haven't you used Valverde in every single hilly race there was? If not, I think you have used him wrong 
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 11-02-2011 18:07
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SotD wrote:
Haven't you used Valverde in every single hilly race there was? If not, I think you have used him wrong
Valverde did win both the Vuelta and Catalunya, so the way he has been used is likely to ensure PT survival.
I dont suppose Fenian will be sending him to Pais Vasco again though.
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 11-02-2011 19:44
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SotD wrote:
Haven't you used Valverde in every single hilly race there was? If not, I think you have used him wrong
You really think those are the kind of races that suit Valverde?
He raced Volta Ciclista a Catalunya which he won.
Then the Vuelta al Pais Vasco where he somehow managed to finish 10th.
He then raced Amstel Gold Race, Fleche Wallone and LBL and was a bit dissapointing in all. If I get a good hilly specialist he'll skip these next season as the hilly classics are too random and they're a waste of his 'Tour' type stats. Having said that it'd only give him an extra 6 race days which wouldn't have been enough to ride something like the Tour de Suisse. Romandie or Eire.
After that he won the Vuelta and has just got Lombardia left now. The hill/mountain mix of that race I hope will help him.
He has 42 race days - so if I'd put him in for the Tour / Vuelta double that's all he'd have been able to race.  |
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-02-2011 20:14
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I believe I would've used him like this:
La Vuelta (Obviously) - 21
Rund um Köln - 2
Criterium International - 3
Amstel Gold Race - 2
Liege-Bastogne-Liege - 2
Fleche Wallone - 2
Classique du Grand-Duché - 2
Seine-Marne-Seine - 2
Badaling International - 2
GP Yekeratinburg - 2
Giro di Lombardia - 2
The reason for that is that you already have a good rider for all the spanish races in Gomez Marchante. Imo the real need of your team is a 3rd small tour rider, one who's much much better than Duarte, perhaps instead of Summerhill, as it's only the absolute top cobblers who are worth that much money (I believe you pay him 450k or so - That would've been better of by paying 400K for a small tour rider and 230K for a cobbler)...
Or that is just my oppinion
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 11-02-2011 20:17
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Koln, Seine and Criterium are 3 rather risky races to send Valverde to imo. It could work out, but it could so easily not. Catalunya is a more likely definate option of points for Valverde, really.
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-02-2011 20:23
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You are probably right, I just have some good feelings about especially Criterium with a strong hilly rider whom can also TT a little bit.
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| p3druh |
Posted on 11-02-2011 20:35
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If Fothen manages to hold on to the lead and Vanderbist manages to win one of the remaining stages, this will be Pearl's best race so far.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 11-02-2011 20:42
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Come on, Van Stayen - you now have 3 opportunities to grab a stage win. Bring back some of the TDF form
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 12-02-2011 19:47
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Well, I kinda need to win this race, and with no more mountains left, that's not going to happen 
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 13-02-2011 08:32
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Poor positioning from Van Stayen there, which cost him the stage win
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| SotD |
Posted on 13-02-2011 09:17
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Oh well, it was only a matter of time before losing the sprinters jersey anyway. I had hoped for another free 5 points though.
Dekker closing in by taking 8seconds is also bad, eventhough I doubt Castaño could've held him away...
Kristof Goddaert in the breakaway, making it the first time my team attacks. In a perfect solution Patrick Gretsch attacks in the next stage, and hold on. He got a decent finish and the flat being all flat could suit him - Oh and he's german
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| Crommy |
Posted on 13-02-2011 14:30
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Roelandts is clearly the fastest sprinter in this race. So where was he on Stage 6?
Sixty-effing-third, that's where 
Still, any points are helpful at this moment in time
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| p3druh |
Posted on 13-02-2011 16:25
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I'm somewhat disappointed in Vanderbist this season. Can't seem to win as much I thought he could.
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