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Posted on 06-05-2010 18:30
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Crommy wrote:
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speaking of Morons, our consitiuancies largest town is where I live. Tuesday night there was a hustings in the town hall.
https://adamcroft....-happened/
In case you don't want to read, our local MP left a hustings because she didn't like the fact it was being broadcast on the internet, despite the fact she was told in advance that it would be.
She said she had to attend a another meeting (Yes, outside the consituancies biggest town), yet she was outside smoking for a good 10 minutes).
This is why we need change in our area.
Fair point. But I'm going to keep on insisting on a Gordon Brown justification. Because if you can successfully do it, you will be some kind of God 
I didn't say i've voted for Gordon Brown, besides i'm not voting for him, rather than an MP for my area.
Anyway, i'm not saying who i voted, but not Tory is all you need to know.
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Posted on 06-05-2010 18:34
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doddy13 wrote:
I didn't say i've voted for Gordon Brown, besides i'm not voting for him, rather than an MP for my area.
Anyway, i'm not saying who i voted, but not Tory is all you need to know.
But you did say
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For me - the answer is Gordon Brown. I can tell you why, but i'd rather not.
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Posted on 06-05-2010 18:43
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SportingNonsense wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
I didn't say i've voted for Gordon Brown, besides i'm not voting for him, rather than an MP for my area.
Anyway, i'm not saying who i voted, but not Tory is all you need to know.
But you did say
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For me - the answer is Gordon Brown. I can tell you why, but i'd rather not.
Well, you know from our various MSN conversations that i've been between Labour and Lib Dem the whole time.
I voted for one of those 2. And maybe not the one you'd expect.
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Posted on 06-05-2010 18:47
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And I still want a reason for supporting Brown
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Posted on 06-05-2010 18:49
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Crommy wrote:
And I still want a reason for supporting Brown 
1) He's not David Cameron
2) He's not planning on doing something stupid, like scrapping trident
3) Education policy, it makes sense
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Posted on 06-05-2010 18:51
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It should be a fascinating election from a statistical point of view. I am with the 'we desperately need voting reform' even if it will make voting too complicated for the vast majority of the populace 
I am sick of being told that anything but voting Labour or Conservative is a wasted vote in my area as I am sure many other people are around the nation.
My plan is to try and go to bed early set the alarm for 4 am and watch the highlights look at how much 'swing' there is. Things I hope happen:
1) Liberal come 2nd on popular vote: this should ensure voter reform and some presence in next government.
2) Expenses MPs get a hiding even those in safe seats. Hazel Blears is in the constiency next to mine - mind you plenty of Labour drones will keep her safe.
3) 'Hung' Parlement - I am interested to see what will happen. Tories look most likely to get a majority of coalition with the DUP or something. I am uncomfortable with George Osbourne getting full hands on the economy.
4) Ed Balls really deserves a hiding - Tactical voting has no place in a general election.
5) I would like to have some idea of what has happened by the time I start work at 9 am tomorrow morning. Boo Hiss to those 20 areas that will not work through the night!
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Posted on 06-05-2010 19:06
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doddy13 wrote:
Crommy wrote:
And I still want a reason for supporting Brown 
1) He's not David Cameron
2) He's not planning on doing something stupid, like scrapping trident
3) Education policy, it makes sense
1. Yes, and Cameron's not Brown (I feel both of them would be just as poor as each other) 
2. That's quite frankly is a ridiculous reason (sorry to be offensive). Trident was created with only 1 purpose - destroying the Soviet Union. The Lib Dems will be scrapping Trident, yes, but we'll still be having a nuclear arsenal, just the process of launching the missiles will be different as will the size of the missiles. The Lib Dems still propose to keep a nuclear deterrent (for countries like Iran), it will just be different.
The stupid thing to do would be to not include our future nuclear arsenal in the upcoming Strategic Defense Review that will occur straight after the election, as the other parties are doing. The Review will help decide how to meet today's threats, not the USSR. Renewing Trident by building a like for like system is just not necessary, overly expensive and also not conducive to worldwide negotiations on nuclear arms reductions.
In short, the Trident system is outdated, not necessary, overly expensive, and even if you plan on renewing it, at least include it in the Strategic Defence Review, to make sure it is a decision we should be making.
3. Labour's policies on education have been nothing short of atrocious. The reason why exam grades are increasing is because exams are becoming easier. My further maths teacher said exams were harder back in his day, we argued back, then he told us everything we had done up to and including year 13 further maths (age 18), he had done by the time he was 16. Universities are now having to put on catch up classes because entrants into uni's are no longer educated enough to start the course.
Someone I know works at a local college, helping pupils on Diplomas. Unfortunately, these aren't worth the paper there written on. In order to maximise funding, a college has to get a certain pass rate. This means that if they need someone to pass for funding, they WILL pass. Mainly through cheating, as the teachers just do the work for them, in what are mostly a high percentage of coursework assessed subjects.
The 50% university target is to put it simply, a joke. People who enter at less reputed universities on non-traditional degrees are given false hope that a degree will increase their earnings potential. Put it simply, they will have wasted several years of their life, for a degree of no value.
All of this adds up to record youth unemployment, and a generation with startling numbers who do not even have basic literacy and numeracy skills.
Long tirade, but these sort of things matter to me.
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Posted on 06-05-2010 19:08
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Smowz wrote:
5) I would like to have some idea of what has happened by the time I start work at 9 am tomorrow morning. Boo Hiss to those 20 areas that will not work through the night!
One constituency will also not be having a vote today after one of the candidates died during campaigning
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Posted on 06-05-2010 19:34
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My further maths teacher said exams were harder back in his day, we argued back, then he told us everything we had done up to and including year 13 further maths (age 18), he had done by the time he was 16.
Really? My parents are both maths graduates (to a PHD level) and theyve both commented on the fact that elements of my Further Maths course were stuff which they did not encounter until university.
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Posted on 06-05-2010 19:54
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Posted on 06-05-2010 19:55
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CrueTrue wrote:
Any chance that UK has forbidden exit polls?
The exit polls won't be released until the polls close at 10PM British time
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Posted on 06-05-2010 20:05
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SportingNonsense wrote:
My further maths teacher said exams were harder back in his day, we argued back, then he told us everything we had done up to and including year 13 further maths (age 18), he had done by the time he was 16.
Really? My parents are both maths graduates (to a PHD level) and theyve both commented on the fact that elements of my Further Maths course were stuff which they did not encounter until university.
Am currently doing maths at uni, further maths is all covered again, admittedly in much less time than in school, and the basic A-level maths covers pretty much all of the first 2 years of college in the states.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2010 20:19
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SportingNonsense wrote:
My further maths teacher said exams were harder back in his day, we argued back, then he told us everything we had done up to and including year 13 further maths (age 18), he had done by the time he was 16.
Really? My parents are both maths graduates (to a PHD level) and theyve both commented on the fact that elements of my Further Maths course were stuff which they did not encounter until university.
That's what he told us, yes. I'd trust he was genuine, but then again, he may have exaggerated.
Of course, that's anecdotal evidence from me, my main point is about a "dumbing down" of curriculum and lowering of grade boundaries.
Although interestingly, we Brits appear to have hit a ceiling in terms of becoming more intelligent. The Flynn effect suggests that a population becomes more intelligent with time, and in standardised IQ tests (not entirely accurate), we progress as the effect describes (3 IQ points per decade), up until the mid to late 80s, at which point we have not progressed. This is similar to other MEDC countries, but just interesting to know that it's suggested we're no longer getting smarter
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Posted on 06-05-2010 21:01
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Taken from the BNP's website, there are two very disturbing things.
1. What the hell is going on with the Dads eyes? They've been photoshopped very poorly, and he now looks like an inbred freak
2. WTF IS THAT HAND ON THE GIRL'S SHOULDER!?!
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Posted on 06-05-2010 21:08
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And...
the Conservatives being their usual self - although almost all parties in fact do this
https://www.b3ta.c...nks/467443
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Posted on 06-05-2010 21:28
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Crommy wrote:
Taken from the BNP's website, there are two very disturbing things.
1. What the hell is going on with the Dads eyes? They've been photoshopped very poorly, and he now looks like an inbred freak
2. WTF IS THAT HAND ON THE GIRL'S SHOULDER!?!

a BNP candidate punched someone today (A foreign immigrant), for spitting as he walked by.
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Posted on 06-05-2010 21:30
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doddy13 wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Taken from the BNP's website, there are two very disturbing things.
1. What the hell is going on with the Dads eyes? They've been photoshopped very poorly, and he now looks like an inbred freak
2. WTF IS THAT HAND ON THE GIRL'S SHOULDER!?!

a BNP candidate punched someone today (A foreign immigrant), for spitting as he walked by.
Did you expect anything different?
If they get a seat though, there will be rioting in that constituency. And I might join them.
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Posted on 06-05-2010 22:00
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Polls shut. Exit poll suggests hung parliament, Conservative as largest.
BBC have Dimbleby, Paxman, Andrew Neil, Nick Robinson, Fiona Bruce. Excellent coverage, if only they got rid of Jeremy Vine and his bloody ridiculous graphics
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Posted on 06-05-2010 22:01
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And Dimbledy has basically just said - given the Lib Dems lose 3 seats in that exit poll, it's clearly wrong
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Posted on 06-05-2010 22:10
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Never trust the polls, its the result that matters
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