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Tour de France 2010 Stage 3 Wanze - Arenberg Porte du Hainaut
SportingNonsense
Andreas93 wrote:
BouBBox wrote:
I hope Hushovd won't get green he doesn't deserve it.


Can you explain? He is both tremendous at the bike and in good shape, in contrast to Cavendish.


(Quoting Andreas, but more responding to BouBBox)

I dont like Hushovd, and last year I dont think he did deserve it. But on balance this year, so far he does.

Stage 1 - He had good luck in avoiding the crashes, when Cavendish and Farrar did not
Stage 2 - On the whole, he was unlucky. If not for the crashes, it is very likely that he would have scored points, maybe even won the stage.
Stage 3 - He used his skill to get in the Schleck group, and then did what he had to do from there

If the Green jersey was a pure sprinters jersey, Hushovd would not win it. But it's not. There are points on offer on all stages, making it a consistency jersey. It favours the sprinters of course, but sprinting is not always enough.
Edited by SportingNonsense on 06-07-2010 17:32
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Waghlon
BouBBox wrote:
To be quick let's say him and his team are the most unfair players of the peleton Wink


Nah, ive seen a dirtier player in the game...


No i mean Vino. What were YOU thinking?
Edited by Waghlon on 06-07-2010 17:32
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doddy13
SportingNonsense wrote:
If the Green jersey was a pure sprinters jersey, Hushovd would not win it. But it's not. There are points on offer on all stages, making it a consistency jersey. It favours the sprinters of course, but sprinting is not always enough.


You could argue that actually he would as he can participate in sprints that cavendish can't.

edit: and as a Cavendish fan, I really dislike admitting that.
Edited by doddy13 on 06-07-2010 17:35
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BouBBox
Waghlon wrote:
BouBBox wrote:
To be quick let's say him and his team are the most unfair players of the peleton Wink


Nah, ive seen a dirtier player in the game...


No i mean Vino. What were YOU thinking?


When did I say dirty? Just saying I don't like the way Hushovd rides and the way he complains about everything which doesn't advantage him eventhough some people get really hurt in crashes. He doesn't reflect beauty of cyclisme. He is a winner, not a beautiful one that's all.
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Andreas93
Unfair? Sorry, but when has he been unfair? He could have attacked him self up to Chavanel yesterday if he wanted.
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doddy13
meh vino. Who cares? Contador didn't lose that much time. Still on track to win the tour I think.
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SportingNonsense
doddy13 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
If the Green jersey was a pure sprinters jersey, Hushovd would not win it. But it's not. There are points on offer on all stages, making it a consistency jersey. It favours the sprinters of course, but sprinting is not always enough.


You could argue that actually he would as he can participate in sprints that cavendish can't.

edit: and as a Cavendish fan, I really dislike admitting that.


A key word in my post though - pure sprinters jersey.
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Waghlon
BouBBox wrote:
words


Dirty = unfair. Its in the dictionary.
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jph27
Waghlon wrote:
BouBBox wrote:
words


Dirty = unfair. Its in the dictionary.


You read the dictionary. Pfft
 
doddy13
SportingNonsense wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
If the Green jersey was a pure sprinters jersey, Hushovd would not win it. But it's not. There are points on offer on all stages, making it a consistency jersey. It favours the sprinters of course, but sprinting is not always enough.


You could argue that actually he would as he can participate in sprints that cavendish can't.

edit: and as a Cavendish fan, I really dislike admitting that.


A key word in my post though - pure sprinters jersey.


true. You got me Sad
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doddy13
jph27 wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
BouBBox wrote:
words


Dirty = unfair. Its in the dictionary.


You read the dictionary. Pfft


Yeah he does. He's read
Dictionary
Thesaurus
Crossword hint guide
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wackojackohighcliffe
Andreas93 wrote:
Unfair? Sorry, but when has he been unfair? He could have attacked him self up to Chavanel yesterday if he wanted.


you overestimate him methinks. 4 minutes seems unlikely.
 
BouBBox
Waghlon wrote:
BouBBox wrote:
words


Dirty = unfair. Its in the dictionary.


Sorry then I was thinking about the opposit of Fairplay...
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RIP Wouter

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doddy13
on the vino/contador thing by the way.
The 3km rule covers mechanicals. So Vino is blameless really.
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Andreas93
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Andreas93 wrote:
Unfair? Sorry, but when has he been unfair? He could have attacked him self up to Chavanel yesterday if he wanted.


you overestimate him methinks. 4 minutes seems unlikely.


Nahh, it was less then a minute or so when they came out of the woods. And Chavanel did not ride any fast, just everyone else riding really slow.

Btw, no commision.
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doddy13
Andreas93 wrote:
Btw, no commision.


you need to get that sorted out Pfft
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wackojackohighcliffe
Andreas93 wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Andreas93 wrote:
Unfair? Sorry, but when has he been unfair? He could have attacked him self up to Chavanel yesterday if he wanted.


you overestimate him methinks. 4 minutes seems unlikely.


Nahh, it was less then a minute or so when they came out of the woods. And Chavanel did not ride any fast, just everyone else riding really slow.

Btw, no commision.


he would have been chased back though. i think he would have been best to wait and sprint anyhow.
 
Andreas93
SportingNonsense wrote:
Andreas93 wrote:
BouBBox wrote:
I hope Hushovd won't get green he doesn't deserve it.


Can you explain? He is both tremendous at the bike and in good shape, in contrast to Cavendish.


(Quoting Andreas, but more responding to BouBBox)

I dont like Hushovd, and last year I dont think he did deserve it. But on balance this year, so far he does.

Stage 1 - He had good luck in avoiding the crashes, when Cavendish and Farrar did not
Stage 2 - On the whole, he was unlucky. If not for the crashes, it is very likely that he would have scored points, maybe even won the stage.
Stage 3 - He used his skill to get in the Schleck group, and then did what he had to do from there

If the Green jersey was a pure sprinters jersey, Hushovd would not win it. But it's not. There are points on offer on all stages, making it a consistency jersey. It favours the sprinters of course, but sprinting is not always enough.


Excatly, A.S.O has decided to have a cobbled stage with 35 points to the winner, so then Hushovd deserves the green jersey.

It is not Hushovd, who has been lucky, it is just Farrar being really unlucky. Cavendish fall was kind of his own fault.
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