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Tour de France, Stage 9 - Monday, July 9th Arc-et-Senans - Besançon
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:09
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baseballlover312 wrote:
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This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).
Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence
No it equals good preperation and a strong ride
Evidence is a failed test, missed test etc. something scientific that can be proven and backed up in a case for CAS
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:09
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baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).
Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence
ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| madzdaman |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:09
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if sky are doped, then what about van garderen? he was nearly as fast as the four time world champion and 1m 10seconds ahead of the current world champion.doped much? this is before we talk about velits, kloden and chavanel....if we're gonna call a surprise doping then call EVERY good/great/unexpected result doping |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:09
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Wiggins, okay.
But Froome?
He never really did anything good until last years Vuelta, where he suddenly finished second, and now he is crushing the time of the strongest time triallist in the world?
I have a feeling Sky, or at least Froome, is not clean...
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:10
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madzdaman wrote:
if sky are doped, then what about van garderen? he was nearly as fast as the four time world champion and 1m 10seconds ahead of the current world champion.doped much? this is before we talk about velits, kloden and chavanel....if we're gonna call a surprise doping then call EVERY good/great/unexpected result doping
Can i extend this to Boonen winning all 4 cobbled classics or Iglinksy winning LBL?
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| Smal |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:11
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baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).
Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence
Is TJVG doping as well then? He'd normally be well off Cancellara's time.
This course is built to go over the first part fastest. Looks to me like Sky have realised that and gone over the first part a lot faster than others. It's not as if Froome's pulled out more time at the second checkpoint. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:11
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Good ride for Roche and top 10 goal. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:12
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madzdaman wrote:
if sky are doped, then what about van garderen? he was nearly as fast as the four time world champion and 1m 10seconds ahead of the current world champion.doped much? this is before we talk about velits, kloden and chavanel....if we're gonna call a surprise doping then call EVERY good/great/unexpected result doping
Only difference is that they are not crushing everyone else uphill and that they actually have results in TTs over many years. Otherwise ur spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and i'm not saying they don't dope, just that your argument was really retarded.)
Edited by gotlandrules on 09-07-2012 16:13
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| CountArach |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:12
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Really good effort from VDB the.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:12
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ianrussell wrote:
Good ride for Roche and top 10 goal.
Yep, probably one of his best TTs in his career
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:12
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gotlandrules wrote:
madzdaman wrote:
if sky are doped, then what about van garderen? he was nearly as fast as the four time world champion and 1m 10seconds ahead of the current world champion.doped much? this is before we talk about velits, kloden and chavanel....if we're gonna call a surprise doping then call EVERY good/great/unexpected result doping
Only difference is that they are not crushing everyone else uphill and that they actually have results in TTs over many years. Otherwise ur spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well Wiggins does have results over the years... |
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| Likkivi |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:13
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doddy13 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).
Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence
ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.
Tejay Van Garderen is a TT specialist. Froome is not. He is just doped. He has never shown any talent even after being professional for so many years.
Enter's Sky and suddenly he is the best in the world at TT's. Disgusting. This team will do anything to win the tour. I will be so full of joy when they get banned. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:13
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If that provisional GC is correct, then the Tour is over already.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:13
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gotlandrules wrote:
madzdaman wrote:
if sky are doped, then what about van garderen? he was nearly as fast as the four time world champion and 1m 10seconds ahead of the current world champion.doped much? this is before we talk about velits, kloden and chavanel....if we're gonna call a surprise doping then call EVERY good/great/unexpected result doping
Only difference is that they are not crushing everyone else uphill and that they actually have results in TTs over many years. Otherwise ur spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and i'm not saying they don't dope, just that your argument was really retarded.)
Cause Wiggins doesn't.
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| madzdaman |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:14
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TheManxMissile wrote:
madzdaman wrote:
if sky are doped, then what about van garderen? he was nearly as fast as the four time world champion and 1m 10seconds ahead of the current world champion.doped much? this is before we talk about velits, kloden and chavanel....if we're gonna call a surprise doping then call EVERY good/great/unexpected result doping
Can i extend this to Boonen winning all 4 cobbled classics or Iglinksy winning LBL?
of course! and schleck is suspicious going on these rules. apart from the tour and LBL 2009, he has put in ONE Good race result.EVER. |
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Posted on 09-07-2012 16:14
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doddy13 wrote:
ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.
Tbh, he hasn't really delivered any noticeable results in TT's before last year. Atleast not on this level.
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| johannes-w |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:14
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pretty good ride by VDB |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:15
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By the way, do you thing Cancellara will leave the tour after today?
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:15
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CLURPR wrote:
gotlandrules wrote:
madzdaman wrote:
if sky are doped, then what about van garderen? he was nearly as fast as the four time world champion and 1m 10seconds ahead of the current world champion.doped much? this is before we talk about velits, kloden and chavanel....if we're gonna call a surprise doping then call EVERY good/great/unexpected result doping
Only difference is that they are not crushing everyone else uphill and that they actually have results in TTs over many years. Otherwise ur spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well Wiggins does have results over the years...
And i never said he didn't have results in TTs earlier |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 09-07-2012 16:15
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Likkivi wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
This is insane!
I still believe sky is clean though, because there is no evidence to the contrary (riding well does not equal evidence).
Beating Cancellara by almost 30 seconds at first time check after never having a good result before the Vuelta = evidence
ahh yes. He's doing abnormally well when discount all evidence that say it could be natural.
Tejay Van Garderen is a TT specialist. Froome is not. He is just doped. He has never shown any talent even after being professional for so many years.
Enter's Sky and suddenly he is the best in the world at TT's. Disgusting. This team will do anything to win the tour. I will be so full of joy when they get banned.
Theyll do so much as to bring a sprinter with a support rider, and then work for him burning energy.
And having solely focused on winning this race to the extent that all riders are in top form, and going for it 200%
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