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Critérium du Dauphiné 2012 | 3rd - 10th June
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| CountArach |
Posted on 05-06-2012 15:35
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Evans has looked really good. He has developed a real knack for gaining time in these hilly stages over his pure time trialing and climbing opponents.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 05-06-2012 15:44
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Thanks a lot!
Great to see that Van Den Broeck's training worked out, he seems to be doing well.
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| ruben |
Posted on 05-06-2012 22:12
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Too bad he has absolutely no acceleration though. He started that sprint in 2nd position and only went backwards. This is his main problem and why he only has 1 stage victory in his entire career.
He's good uphill, he's decent at the clock, but doesn't have the acceleration to get away... |
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| shraggi |
Posted on 05-06-2012 22:30
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ruben wrote:
Too bad he has absolutely no acceleration though. He started that sprint in 2nd position and only went backwards. This is his main problem and why he only has 1 stage victory in his entire career.
He's good uphill, he's decent at the clock, but doesn't have the acceleration to get away...
Well it is not all that bad as he is a stage racer and stage racing is all about GC not stage wins, especially as he races the tour which does not have any time bonuses and it seems the other GTs are following in the Tour's stride in that respect.
Of course it is an added bonus to sprint for a victory like today or even at the end of a mountain stage, yet this is an ailment which befalls many riders and is not a problem in nowadays era of specialisation.
"That stage will start full gas, be ridden full gas and will finish full gas"
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| ruben |
Posted on 05-06-2012 22:32
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He doesn't have any GC wins either. If that's what your referring to.
Sad fact also, Andy Schleck, despite being known as 'stage-racer' has only won 1 stage-race, and that was only because the winner was suspended later  |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 05-06-2012 22:33
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Okay, I might be calling it too early but by the likes of things so far and how he's looking...
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Posted on 05-06-2012 22:34
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ruben wrote:
He doesn't have any GC wins either. If that's what your referring to.
Sad fact also, Andy Schleck, despite being known as 'stage-racer' has only won 1 stage-race, and that was only because the winner was suspended later
Well that hasnt got to do with his acceleration...
"That stage will start full gas, be ridden full gas and will finish full gas"
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Posted on 05-06-2012 22:36
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Alakagom wrote:
Okay, I might be calling it too early but by the likes of things so far and how he's looking...
I dont think he will feature too much on the steeper stuff in ths particular race or in the prologue I think a top 20 will be a good bet.
But I do expect him to do good things at the British Nats and then again when it really counts.
"That stage will start full gas, be ridden full gas and will finish full gas"
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Posted on 05-06-2012 22:39
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shraggi wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Okay, I might be calling it too early but by the likes of things so far and how he's looking...
I dont think he will feature too much on the steeper stuff in ths particular race or in the prologue I think a top 20 will be a good bet.
But I do expect him to do good things at the British Nats and then again when it really counts.
Absolutely. It's good to see him back to action though as he again suffered quite a fall at his training camp...
Everyone at Dauphine will support Wiggo and so will Froome. Add to that Porte is 2nd in line after Wiggo I believe so I don't really care about Froome's GC here at all. Hope he does good TT and supports Wiggo in the mountains a bit that would satisfy me.
The Tour is where it counts and for Wiggo to win this Froome is needed at top shape.
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Posted on 05-06-2012 22:40
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Eden95 wrote:
Good for Gallopin 
I think it'll be between Nibali and Evans. Wiggins will eventually not be able to keep up.
On what?
There is no demanding stages where those two will have the opportunity to put time into a sky led bunch, nevermind whether they have the ability to do so.
"That stage will start full gas, be ridden full gas and will finish full gas"
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 06-06-2012 00:27
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Solid performance by Wiggins and Team Sky today  |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 06-06-2012 06:36
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ruben wrote:
Too bad he has absolutely no acceleration though. He started that sprint in 2nd position and only went backwards. This is his main problem and why he only has 1 stage victory in his entire career.
He's good uphill, he's decent at the clock, but doesn't have the acceleration to get away...
I know, that's too bad. But he's not the attacker as well. Of course I can understand this, since he's not the best climber. To be honest, as a rider, I'm happy for him when he gets a good result, but I don't enjoy watching him that much, I'd rather see someone win who's attacking and so on.
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Posted on 06-06-2012 07:23
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shraggi wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
Good for Gallopin
I think it'll be between Nibali and Evans. Wiggins will eventually not be able to keep up.
On what?
There is no demanding stages where those two will have the opportunity to put time into a sky led bunch, nevermind whether they have the ability to do so.
Stage to Morzine, If Nibali makes it to the top he can descend better than any of the other big guys. And Wiggins is arguably the best GC TT'er here, so if anyone wants to win they will have to try either drop, or attack Wiggins. It does depend on where and when they attack, how they're feeling, how Wiggins is feeling, so there is a lot of factors that can affect the outcome. I dont know what will happe, that was just what I was thinking.
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 06-06-2012 09:10
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i agree that Wiggo is the best GC TTer, but not by much
there won't be big gaps in the TT, and can definately see Nibbles taking time on the Morzine stage
maybe Evans too, i'm not convinced that Wiggins is a great descender
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Posted on 06-06-2012 09:30
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Wiggins or Evans will take this. Nibali doesn't have the race rythm yet. He will maybe finish of the podium. Think he will be really dangerous in the Tour. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 06-06-2012 09:33
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Most TT riders are pretty good at descending because they have the bike handling skills they need so I suspect he could be okay though I haven't got a lot of evidence for that.
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| shraggi |
Posted on 06-06-2012 09:37
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samdiatmh wrote:
i agree that Wiggo is the best GC TTer, but not by much
there won't be big gaps in the TT, and can definately see Nibbles taking time on the Morzine stage
maybe Evans too, i'm not convinced that Wiggins is a great descender
There will certainly be big gaps in the TT it is the longest TT we have seen in a while and it is one for the specialists I think so yes there will be pretty big gaps.
The Morzine stage wont be enough to get rid of some of Wiggin's domestiques and they will ensure that it all keeps together.
"That stage will start full gas, be ridden full gas and will finish full gas"
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Posted on 06-06-2012 10:41
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Eden95 wrote:
shraggi wrote:
Eden95 wrote:
Good for Gallopin
I think it'll be between Nibali and Evans. Wiggins will eventually not be able to keep up.
On what?
There is no demanding stages where those two will have the opportunity to put time into a sky led bunch, nevermind whether they have the ability to do so.
Stage to Morzine, If Nibali makes it to the top he can descend better than any of the other big guys. And Wiggins is arguably the best GC TT'er here, so if anyone wants to win they will have to try either drop, or attack Wiggins. It does depend on where and when they attack, how they're feeling, how Wiggins is feeling, so there is a lot of factors that can affect the outcome. I dont know what will happe, that was just what I was thinking.
That also opens up opportunity's for the Tour de France itself, having mountain stages finishing after mountain decends.
But don't underestimate Evans or VDB. I value them being good descenders as well. And Nibali has to come over the top with the best to be able to attack them downhill off course... |
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Posted on 06-06-2012 10:44
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Yeah, Evans is a very good descender as an ex-mountain biker and probably a better climber than Nibali so I don't really imagine Nibali will get away from him.
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Posted on 06-06-2012 11:23
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Sanchez is also a pretty good descender, everyone knows that though. Hopefully he can be competitive after his crash, he'll be able to aim for at least a podium I think.
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