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| viking90 |
Posted on 13-02-2018 20:25
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Yeah, fine. Now all of by 3 GC guys have crashed.
Lövkvist and Cort Nielsen lost much time today aswell, dropping down to 35 and 55 in GC thats just really really bad! I hoped both could atleast get top 30 in TdF...  Important pts getting lost.
But 10th by AKA is nice as bbl says but I wished Reimer was on his wheel and could sprint for a better place. Impressive that AKA is still here with his 52 MO Stat. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 13-02-2018 20:28
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Huzzah! 
It actually happened, we formed the infamous climber-puncheur-sprinter train, that still came with 71-74 leadouts. 
We very nearly messed up big time, but the great positioning was crucial to wait out the other sprinters running out of energy one by one. It clearly looked like a fading Demare for a Top 5 at most, but we got lucky and he kept going.
And we also got a great victory shot, thanks for that! 
Arndt gaining a minute would've meant something, had he not decided to pointlessly lose nearly 15 minutes over the course of the race. How about we just fast forward to the Champs-Elysées? 
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| Roman |
Posted on 13-02-2018 20:30
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Oh what a bad moment for Grmay. Things quickly change sometimes...
Nice try by Mr Stybar. Just a try though.
Next stage is going to be crucial for Sagan's hopes in this race. But after he did not use hilly stages to his advantage in 2nd week, top 10 hopes are likely gone. But as he is such greatly placed in GC, he won't go for a breakaway, too bad. Hopefully Hirt won't lose too much as well.
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 13-02-2018 20:33
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At least Gunman tried.. Congrats, cio. As for Jayco, I don't see anything good to come, so maybe let's just move on to Praha 
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 13-02-2018 20:49
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Somebody really does not want Brambilla in the top 20 here
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| ember |
Posted on 13-02-2018 21:20
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Trentin almost joining the sprint makes me kind of hopeful for something similar in Paris. Is the light cobbles there counted for anything towards the cobbles stat in PCM? If it is, he could maybe grab a top 10 there if he joins the sprint, which would be fun
Guldhammer safe through the stage with the peloton was all that mattered though, and we got that, so I'm obviously happy. And congratulations, cio93! Demare very much turning his season for the better here in this Tour |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 13-02-2018 23:03
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Best result from Coutinho. Fourth is very pleasing. Also nice to see us in the breaks.
Congratulations on the victory cio!
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 14-02-2018 01:20
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Congrats cio, Demare was unbeatable. I couldn't be happier with Reinhardt's performance, 2 podiums in the TdF is outstanding for him.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 14-02-2018 01:28
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Very heartfelt thanks to everyone
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| roturn |
Posted on 14-02-2018 06:40
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Really a pity that without Swift my team is not going for the sprint finish...Sbaragli has shown he is fast enough for a top10 on his own but doesn`t even try.
Congrats cio. Was a good stage for Demare and he delivered. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-02-2018 20:55
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Stage 15 was nice to see a sprint finish. Wippert not quite involved, but Demare a worthy winner.
Stage 16 not entirely unexpected given how Konig struggled after his Giro breakaway, but a shame given Keinath's stats. Could be worrying for the mountains, but we'll see. Interesting to see Phinney taking the fight to Spilak, but still expect Spilak to win.
Thanks Aquarius.
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-02-2018 20:58
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2nd on the stage is fine. Aswell as getting a small gap to Gesink, a slightly bigger one to Taaramäe and a good one to Amador.
Losing time here on Phinney, however. That is just not good enough. We will have to hope for some Spilak-Taaramäe double attack on atleast one of the final mountainstages to claim the needed amount of time for the win.
I suspect that a total of 2'30" will be needed to ensure the win. Anything less than 1'30" is a given that Phinney will claim back. So we have to find ATLEAST 1 minute, and preferably 2 on the upcoming mountains to have a realistic shot. And while we do so, we need to keep the gap or open it up further to Gesink, aswell as not losing 5 or more minutes to Taaramäe.
Things are definately open so far.
Yuriy Vasyliv with a good stage here, making it very depressing that Novak is clearly injured, so we have to rely on Kastrantas for our 3rd man, and thus can now say goodbye to the Team GC for good. I suspect that UBS, Moser and maybe even Aker will overtake us in the end.
Vasyliv climbing to 19th is a very nice result, but isn't likely to stick.
Congrats to RBC for yet another huge performance by Phinney, nontheless.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 14-02-2018 21:00
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Ah damn, Demare and Arndt completely bonked in the end. Demare as 16th just outside the points as well, which makes this a pointless stage in both definitions.
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| viking90 |
Posted on 14-02-2018 21:00
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We are doing so bad at the moment..
First, why the heck would we do so much work in this stage?
When clearly Wellens had a day off.
16 stages in to TdF and Wellens is 3 minutes after Adam Yates (??!?) in the GC and that after having a good start in the first stages , he was almost two minutes better then Yates a few stages ago.
This race starting to be a dissapointing race for us. |
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| ember |
Posted on 14-02-2018 21:32
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Good stage by Guldhammer, defending his GC position and gaining on Keinath. Seeing how it stands now, 6th place overall has to be the goal, but obviously we'll need to put serious time into Keinath in the mountains for that to happen. Seeing how he has struggled except for his great stage win, I do think it should be possible, but we shall see. There's also Yates just behind, and you never know what Yates is capable of
Congratulations on another stage win, jt! Phinney really punching above his weight here, GC wise. It does still feel like he shouldn't be able to keep up with Spilak in the mountains, but as SotD says, this is still very open, thanks to Phinney's great Tour so far.
And we really, really need to join the breakaways. There's only three chances left, and it would be a pity to see us just join in on the fun on one stage, after all I built the Tour team for breakaway opportunities |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 14-02-2018 22:08
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Wow Phinney just having an incredible time here 3 stage wins already is fantastic and being only 37 seconds of the lead at this stage is more then I could of hoped for, having said that the last two mountain stages will see him lose plenty of time to Spilak and Taarmae so I wouldn't be keen on him winning overall, i feel spilak has that in the bag. the big goal of the green jersey looks to be going well though with a TT to come for a possibility at 4 stage wins this could be an even better tour then last year |
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-02-2018 22:25
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Last season Spilak gained less than 1 minute on Phinney in the final 3 (and quite similar) mountainstages (17-18-19), so I see no reason why that should change much. Especially as he is leading and thus probably relying on his helpers instead of attacking.
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 14-02-2018 22:57
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SotD wrote:
Last season Spilak gained less than 1 minute on Phinney in the final 3 (and quite similar) mountainstages (17-18-19), so I see no reason why that should change much. Especially as he is leading and thus probably relying on his helpers instead of attacking.
Phinney did lose 3 mins on the queen stage last year, though Spilak was behind that day though a regular stage I can't see Phinney being within a min of Spilak either day.
If it comes to the TT and Phinney is within 2 mins I would be getting very excited though! |
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 15-02-2018 06:00
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So, a new word to describe my team: lackluster.
Manager of Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska in the PCM.Daily Man-Game |
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| roturn |
Posted on 15-02-2018 06:40
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Good stage by Dekker. Though it`s difficult to climb more than 1-2 spots. Sagan is a must really with 3 mountain stages now.
Wellens might as he seems to be slightly injured. Keinath would need a big loss. Today was a "start" but it`s usually a "one day after a long break recovery loss" and I guess he should be fine for the mountains and hence 10min is too much to gain.
Tenorio could be interesting as he seems without injury now. Not sure if injuries also go against recovery but I hope he goes for 1-2 stage wins now in the big climbs. Would give beagle some needed points.
Phinney with a big stage here. Makes it really interesting as 2-3 outcomes still possible.
Let`s hope for a no crash final days and the decisions from now on fall without other impact than their real strength. |
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