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Rasmusen
tellico wrote:
roturn wrote:
I played Paris Roubaix and had no problems with x2 or x4 on the cobbles.
Only annoying thing was that we also played the finish at x2 and this in a sprint pretty much sucks. I was lucky when finding the right guy to click on in faster speed and at least got a decent result with average riders.


Well, i play cobbles very carefully. Always on dot, never maintain position. There you can save a lot of energy and force to loss of others. Anyway, there should not be possibility to DICTATE other players how to play. When all agree to fast then ok, no problem. But force someone to play x4 is ridiculous. Especially in game when team position counts too.
I stop playing armada for now ONLY because of this.


Me 2 x2 x4 is a joke and no fun at all.

if all agree speedie gonzales temp ok, but if 1 players doesnt like it, it should be possible. Also i think a lot guys do x2 x4 just to irritate others
 
Rasmusen
tellico wrote:
Another race almost failed in armada beacause guys which had a big loss speeds play x4 on cobble section! Armada is unplayable beacause of this! If anyone has account on the official forum pleeeeease post to change speed-voting to ALL instead of MAJORITY... maybe if there are more votes they will change this...Sad


I created an account, where van i vote to remove that bullshit x2x4.
I created a topic cause i couldnt find nothing about the voteing
 
tellico
Thanks. Well, topic can be mistaken by others beacause problem isnt option x2 x4 itself but voting. This is good option but only if ALL agreed to speed. Someone may misunderstand and think that we want to disable whole option and this is not goodWink
 
Jeremy
I don't think it should be removed. Having 90 minute races is not for most of us... I don't know if you guys work or something but I welcome the shorter races. I do agree that some rules need to be set, like resuming the normal tempo when someone attacks or something (we already have this in Career).
 
Rasmusen
Jeremy wrote:
I don't think it should be removed. Having 90 minute races is not for most of us... I don't know if you guys work or something but I welcome the shorter races. I do agree that some rules need to be set, like resuming the normal tempo when someone attacks or something (we already have this in Career).


If i dont have time 2 play a game i dont play a game.
And yes i work, and when i play a game, i dont want others decide 4 me to speed it up, because the wanna gain rank fast.

Before i hosted myself and i play this games since the first version.

No suddenly i have 2 play with jurks who go from 1x to 4x then 2x then 4x then 1x then 4x.

Its a bad option in the armada mode. Only way to do speed it up if all agrees.

And what stage is 90 minutes? they all 30 to 40 minutes tops.
 
Rasmusen
tellico wrote:
Thanks. Well, topic can be mistaken by others beacause problem isnt option x2 x4 itself but voting. This is good option but only if ALL agreed to speed. Someone may misunderstand and think that we want to disable whole option and this is not goodWink


The whole patch is crap. Single races are also no fun anymore, no way 2 thin out the bunch, Group stay 2gether no matter what until last climb
 
Rasmusen
superider2010 wrote:
they give 20 cyans for all who play armada
that's better for beginners,2 packs of silver you will get like 4-6 silver riders
and for who has gold riders,can renew their contract when will be option avaible


They can give whatever they want. If they don fix this x2 x4 crap
iam not gona play it anymore online.
 
Ste117
I think the speed is a good idea, allows you to play more game, therefore earning more coins. In the races I have played everyone has been sensible with it and x4 the non important parts and x1 the important parts, which is how it should be used!
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Jeremy
So far, I have the same opinion. Some guys think that if you use 2x and 4x you will win less coins because the stages are faster (less real time). I'm not sure but it seems to me that coins are calculated based on the riders finishing time and not real time. I played Paris Roubaix twice last night, one at 1x and another with several sections at 2x and 4x and the coins were about the same...
 
Rasmusen
well finally i had a 1x only game, and got 300 coins.
So speeding this shit up give less coins.
 
Jeremy
I don't think it does, but I'm not sure. I think the calculation is made based on the riders time. Does anyone know how this works?
 
dren
its about real time, not riders time
 
tellico
superider2010 wrote:
if all press x4 and you keep x1,the speed in game will be maximum x2 at x2 you can play,it isn't big speed and at final 70-50km,sure you won't be single with x1 speed i played with 7-8 guys 3-4 races,i controlled the speed if others have it weaker teams but probably you are a noob if the speed it's x4(you keep x4 too)


It is no matter that i can play x2 or not. Point is that i dont want to and nobody should be allowed to tell mi how should i play! It is so basic, god damn it! I bought the game where speedup is option not obligation. And i bought cyans when speed was x1. If they DICTATE me how should i play and change terms-condition so please give me my money back.
Basic rule is that it does not change the rules during the game.
Repeat: i dont want remove speedup, i ask to change VOTING to ALL beacause everyone has the right to play how he wants!
For me its obvious, but im a noob...
Edited by tellico on 12-07-2012 20:01
 
dren
with the new system based in time its slower to get coins than it was before... and when they add the contracts and equipment repair will be even slower to save coins for get packs Frown

 
TwoWheels
I guess you will get more points if you speed up.

First of all you will at least get 100 coins. If you play it x4 you will at least get 400 for the same amount of time which may give you only 250?

But i dont know, im just think its bad to sit waiting for action on a flat stage with nothing do really before at the last 30 km.
 
tellico
TwoWheels wrote:
But i dont know, im just think its bad to sit waiting for action on a flat stage with nothing do really before at the last 30 km.


And if all players in session agree with you then ok, lets speed. But what if someone HAS something to do? You think its ok to force him to play faster only beacause you are bored? I think its not.
 
Jeremy
I've never had any problems in the games I played. People are using the x2 and x4 when everyone is agreeing, so I'm with Cyanide in this one.
 
tellico
superider2010 wrote:
really you post the same thing 3-4 times,change the subject because when it was important it always was x1 speed in my races
but if you want x1 all race,that's just your problem

Obviously for some people is needed to repeat. And no, it is not only my problem. Lots of people dont want play x4 when few teenagers came for coins. I played few minutes ago, vote x1 and game was x4 not x2. So if you want insult others maybe you should learn something??
You are known troll so i will not pollute this great forum discussing with you anymore.

Jeremy wrote:
I've never had any problems in the games I played. People are using the x2 and x4 when everyone is agreeing, so I'm with Cyanide in this one.

Well, great that you were lucky to play with normal people but several people were playing with guys which says: i'm too weak, i want x4 and go on to the next one...
Edited by tellico on 13-07-2012 11:20
 
Jeremy
Yeah that sucks. I guess I've been lucky so far. Even the weak teams are having alot of fair play.
 
Rasmusen
superider2010 wrote:
no race will play x4 on last 50-70 km(hill,montain races)because always will be 2 humans on x1,who has gold team or at least 1 gold rider who can win and they won't destroy their chances of loosing the race
even on flat stages like champ elisse in last 50 km speed in game isn't x4
it's just your words complaining about the big speed at begin where you probably loose some of your riders
you're a crybaby and a noob
you're complaining like the whole race it's on x4,but it isn't
a great skilled user can play even on x2
solution for noob : play just offline or friendly games with other noobs
it's better to be troll then a noob,at least i understand some things then you



Its not that i CANT PLAY X2 OR X4 or even X8, its that i DONT LIKE IT 2 Play like that.
Specially i dont like it that OTHERS PUSH me 2 play like that. And i cant choose different.

And offline the game is ruined by the latest patch, groups of 40 sprint for the win on a last mountain.

Old version i always was ranked within first 10 so i being a noob wel maybe you right.
 
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