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| SotD |
Posted on 20-04-2010 09:27
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Well I wouldn't put too much comparison into the Giro and the Tour. I find the Tour peleton much stronger, and the tactical games way tougher, so 7th Giro is a comparison imo, 15th Tour de France isn't... You've never seen Simoni as a real contender for the Tour de France, yet he was a regular contender for the Giro for several years...
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Posted on 20-04-2010 09:30
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So... you're confirming with me that Van den Broeck ain't all that then...?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-04-2010 09:48
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SotD wrote:
You've never seen Simoni as a real contender for the Tour de France, yet he was a regular contender for the Giro for several years...
Gee, I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that it's impossible to ride top level GC in both.
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| Shiverson |
Posted on 20-04-2010 10:36
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Contador did a trip of 1900 km in car from Santiago de Compostela to Liege. There is a video in youtube (in spanish):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NthL7c...thL7cGLhes
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| SotD |
Posted on 20-04-2010 11:18
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issoisso wrote:
SotD wrote:
You've never seen Simoni as a real contender for the Tour de France, yet he was a regular contender for the Giro for several years...
Gee, I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that it's impossible to ride top level GC in both.
Well I reckon there are several other examples of a rider doing well at the Vuelta or the Giro, and then the next year focuses on the Tour and does 14th or so...
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| arthon |
Posted on 20-04-2010 15:06
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SotD wrote:
Well I reckon there are several other examples of a rider doing well at the Vuelta or the Giro, and then the next year focuses on the Tour and does 14th or so...
Well, Menchov won the 2007 Vuelta, then finished 5th in the Giro and 4th in the 2008 Tour.
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 20-04-2010 16:10
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arthon wrote:
SotD wrote:
Well I reckon there are several other examples of a rider doing well at the Vuelta or the Giro, and then the next year focuses on the Tour and does 14th or so...
Well, Menchov won the 2007 Vuelta, then finished 5th in the Giro and 4th in the 2008 Tour.
So Giro is tougher than Tour?? No, you can't really say they have an unchangable difference. Sure, the best riders ride the Tour but some years a lot of them might fail and thus make Giro (or Vuelta) a lot harder and interesting.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 20-04-2010 16:11
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arthon wrote:
SotD wrote:
Well I reckon there are several other examples of a rider doing well at the Vuelta or the Giro, and then the next year focuses on the Tour and does 14th or so...
Well, Menchov won the 2007 Vuelta, then finished 5th in the Giro and 4th in the 2008 Tour.
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Posted on 20-04-2010 16:16
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Wilier wrote:
Actually 3th if you count out Kohl.
3rd
just nitpicking
And just realised this is the Ardenne classics thread so were quite offtopic
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Posted on 20-04-2010 17:39
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New post up with Tips for Tomorrow's Fleche Wallonne https://chrisalfre...-wallonne/ |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-04-2010 18:08
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Bosskardo wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Actually 3th if you count out Kohl.
3 rd
just nitpicking
And just realised this is the Ardenne classics thread so were quite offtopic
we're
Just nitpicking 
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| SotD |
Posted on 20-04-2010 18:49
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I've decided to go for Alberto Contador this time. 110 PCM$
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Posted on 21-04-2010 10:07
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i went for valverde  btw, can someone link to the sporza stream of fleche wallone ?? |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-04-2010 10:10
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I went for Rodriguez who will no longer be racing according to cyclingnews. WHY?!!?!?!!!
EDIT: Though they don't say he's not racing, just that they don't mention he IS racing. Which, is a little odd, considering he'll be the team leader the Fleche I expect. Still, what can you expect off the "best cycling news website in the world" (as they call themselves).
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| Wyman |
Posted on 21-04-2010 10:38
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What do you all think of the changed route, well moving the 2nd Passage of the Mur de Huy to only 30km from the finish, but moving around the other climbs.
Do you think it will be pretty similar to previous years with a mass sprint up the Mur de Huy, or do you think that there may be a more select group?
Personally i think it will be the usual Mur de Huy mass sprint, which i quite enjoy watching anyway 
Oh and for once i'm going with Cunego :S
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-04-2010 10:49
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Wyman wrote:
What do you all think of the changed route, well moving the 2nd Passage of the Mur de Huy to only 30km from the finish, but moving around the other climbs.
They switched the outer and inner loops
Wyman wrote:
Do you think it will be pretty similar to previous years with a mass sprint up the Mur de Huy, or do you think that there may be a more select group?
Probably the same sprint but with less people
Wyman wrote:
Personally i think it will be the usual Mur de Huy mass sprint, which i quite enjoy watching anyway
So do I
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| jolly_antunes |
Posted on 21-04-2010 10:58
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rjc_43 wrote:
I went for Rodriguez who will no longer be racing according to cyclingnews. WHY?!!?!?!!!
EDIT: Though they don't say he's not racing, just that they don't mention he IS racing. Which, is a little odd, considering he'll be the team leader the Fleche I expect. Still, what can you expect off the "best cycling news website in the world" (as they call themselves).
According to their startlist, he's there.
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 21-04-2010 11:16
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 21-04-2010 11:21
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"Other Rider"?
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Posted on 21-04-2010 12:01
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Yup but it gives less points ^^ |
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