Ste117 wrote:
If Armstrong is cheating and is found out and caught cheating I am turning my back on cycling for good, he and Valverde are the reason I started cycling and took interest in cycling.
Well, with Valverde's blood having been matched with Fuentes' bags by the italians, and Armstrong's values simply not being possible without drugs (in addition to decades of other solid indications), you must be at the stage where you know they both cheated and just hope they never get caught and serve their penalty.
Ste117 wrote:
If Armstrong is cheating and is found out and caught cheating I am turning my back on cycling for good, he and Valverde are the reason I started cycling and took interest in cycling.
Well, with Valverde's blood having been matched with Fuentes' bags by the italians, and Armstrong's values simply not being possible without drugs (in addition to decades of other solid indications), you must be at the stage where you know they both cheated and just hope they never get caught and serve their penalty.
Good call. Surely you prefer other rider who dont win all the time as i like watching cycling for the underdogs and i like the odd top 5 rider etc. I used to like astarloza but hey the world don't end you just move on.
In other news katusha are bringing a strong team to the tour of britain. Pozzato karpets swift napolitano and petrov are included . Be interesting to see nordhaug as he will be determined to prove himself if he has just signed for team sky
Or, well, he starts out by saying that it's pretty much impossible to be a top athlete climbing the Mont Ventoux with a so low haemotocrit value - unless you've been using masking products.
Ste117 wrote:
If Armstrong is cheating and is found out and caught cheating I am turning my back on cycling for good, he and Valverde are the reason I started cycling and took interest in cycling.
Shall I continue to list dozens more that never tested positive, swore their innocence and were later proven to be doping during their entire careers?
Waghlon wrote:
Ill give it four years before Armstrong is finally outed by someone he trusts and he will be forced to admit
He already was by Jonathan Vaughters, Frankie Andreu, Mike Anderson and Emma O'Reilly. He denied it every time and the UCI always refused to investigate every time.
Edited by issoisso on 03-09-2009 22:53
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
Pretty stupid for Armstrong to make a comeback and dope knowing that he would be under the microscope. If I had to speculate, I'd guess he started clean, realized he wasn't going to be able to compete in the mountains that way and his ego was too big to allow him to fail so then turned to doping to make sure he wasn't embarassed.
Either than or he is really not human, comes from outer space and is blessing us with his presence.
The Vacansoleil rider - so much for a sunny holiday, huh? - whose slip brought down the field supposedly told a team-mate: "Everything was fine before my mind switched to Denis Menchov and the mere thought of him sent me flying to the ground. Besides the rest of the peloton, I just don't know what came over me."
LA also answered to the doping speculations on his Twitter profile:
How do I say "ssdd" in Danish?
about 8 hours ago from UberTwitter
(ssdd meaning Same Shit, Different Day)
isso: I was referring to a 'special' case of Riis. Back when documentary after documentary proved that Riis doped, he participated in an interview with a Danish tv channel. When asked: "Did you ever dope?", he answered: "I never tested positive". Usually, they say they never doped, Bjarne didn't
CrueTrue wrote:
LA also answered to the doping speculations on his Twitter profile:
How do I say "ssdd" in Danish?
about 8 hours ago from UberTwitter
(ssdd meaning Same Shit, Different Day)
isso: I was referring to a 'special' case of Riis. Back when documentary after documentary proved that Riis doped, he participated in an interview with a Danish tv channel. When asked: "Did you ever dope?", he answered: "I never tested positive". Usually, they say they never doped, Bjarne didn't
Have you ever noticed Armstrong does the same in every interview? That and he repeats the complete falsehood that "he's the most tested athlete ever" when by statistics published by the WADA in 2005, there were several cyclists that had been tested over double the times he had.
EDIT:
Notice the huge spike in his off-score
If this were any other rider, the blood passport would be on him like a gnat on........uhh....something that gnats love.
Edited by issoisso on 04-09-2009 11:05
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
CrueTrue wrote:
LA also answered to the doping speculations on his Twitter profile:
How do I say "ssdd" in Danish?
about 8 hours ago from UberTwitter
(ssdd meaning Same Shit, Different Day)
isso: I was referring to a 'special' case of Riis. Back when documentary after documentary proved that Riis doped, he participated in an interview with a Danish tv channel. When asked: "Did you ever dope?", he answered: "I never tested positive". Usually, they say they never doped, Bjarne didn't
Have you ever noticed Armstrong does the same in every interview? That and he repeats the complete falsehood that "he's the most tested athlete ever" when by statistics published by the WADA in 2005, there were several cyclists that had been tested over double the times he had.
EDIT:
Notice the huge spike in his off-score
If this were any other rider, the blood passport would be on him like a gnat on........uhh....something that gnats love.
female gnats?
Edited by mb2612 on 04-09-2009 11:15
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