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Transfer Season Rules 2020
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 01-10-2020 11:05
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Fabianski wrote:
Regarding silent auctions, the rules state that:
If a loan was planned for that rider, a loan deal must be done directly within that silent bid! The loaning in and loaning out team therefore will be asked to confirm that loan.
As there is no chance to make any other updates afterwards, the transfer sheets from both managers should fit such loan deal!
Does this actually mean we're allowed to negotiate loan deals even though a free agent signing isn't definitive yet? I mean, the rules state as well that deals like "if you don't bid on him, I'll loan him out to you" are forbidden, whereas the silent auction rules go exactly in this direction.
And I guess if you lose the silent auction, you cannot loan out the replacement rider, right?
The rule you're referring to relates to conversations between managers who are competing on a particular free agent. Its a rule against "Don't bid on him, because x" talk. That "don't bid / loan" example may be outdated now, as I believe that may have been there from the time when loans of maxed riders was permitted, and so there could have been a scenario of 'you have him this season, I'll have him next season, so let's stop bidding and keep the price down'.
The silent auction rule refers to the fact that many managers, during bidding, do sometimes look to line-up a loan with a third party team, in the hope/expectation that they will win their bid. That loan in team being one that is not at all involved in the rider bidding.
Teams will need to take this approach if they want to loan out a rider won in silent auction, as it is not going to be allowed for any negotiations to extend beyond the end time of the transfer period.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 01-10-2020 11:34
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Fabianski wrote:
And I guess if you lose the silent auction, you cannot loan out the replacement rider, right?
If terms of the loan out of the replacement rider are stated in the silent auction bid aswell, then it will be allowed. It would need to be to the same team, that the auction rider would have been loaned to. You can't loan the replacement if you weren't planning to loan the auctioned rider.
The idea is that the replacement can replace the 'function' of the rider you missed out on. E.g.
- If you needed that 1 rider to meet team size limits
- If you wanted an extra rider for their RDs to use in planning
- If you wanted to sign a talent, and loan them out to a division that can see them level up
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| MacC |
Posted on 02-10-2020 20:40
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Does one thread every 20 minutes prevent you from bidding in another thread too (ne you didnt start?)? |
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| MacC |
Posted on 02-10-2020 20:40
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Does one thread every 20 minutes prevent you from bidding in another thread too (one you didnt start?)? |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-10-2020 20:44
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Limit is just on creating threads - you can bid on other threads fine, in accordance with the standard daily bid limits.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 02-10-2020 20:51
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Just to clarify is that 20minnute period or 20 minutes after your last created thread.
e.g. I create a thread at 20:15, can I create one again at 20:21 as new 20 minute period or only at 20:35 because it's 20mins after my last created thread?
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-10-2020 20:52
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20 minutes after you last created a thread - so from 20:35.
Also have to wait 20 minutes if the thread you posted was invalid.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 02-10-2020 20:56
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ok, that's what I expected but thought best to double check, not that I anticipate wanting to create too many threads
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 02-10-2020 21:04
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OK, didn't understand it that way, sorry. So my thread for Moreno Moser (where hillis has already placed a bid as well) and for Marcel Aregger should be invalidated. Well, you can keep the one for Aregger open if you don't mind, and I'll wait 20 additional minutes  The night's long enough anyway.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 02-10-2020 23:10
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OK, after discussion with the Admins, the Moser thread stands, and the first Aregger thread will be considered invalid, that's why I just opened another one.
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| krisa |
Posted on 03-10-2020 10:31
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can't make threads in that section
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| sgdanny |
Posted on 03-10-2020 10:35
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you're not in the transfer group, thats why
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 03-10-2020 10:35
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Guess you haven't read the rules thoroughly enough yet then...
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| MacC |
Posted on 03-10-2020 20:38
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Just checking I can sack riders now? Don't need to wait |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 03-10-2020 21:00
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Yep, you can
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 08-10-2020 10:31
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Just to be sure, as the rules don't seem to mention it explicitely: The thread for a Stagiare bid should be [Stagiare] Rider Name, right? Well, actually "Stagiare" is wrong, as it should be spelled Stagiaire, but that shouldn't be really important 
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 08-10-2020 10:33
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Yep, and then if it ever gets to 50k moved to a [Free Agent] thread
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 10-10-2020 12:27
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The new silent auction loan rules also apply for any free agents threads that are now posted in the last 48 hours, where there is only the original 50k bid.
A silent auction PM from both teams involved in the loan, will be required for that scenario as well.
For these silent auction loan PMs, please put the details using the Loan Deal thread confirmation format.
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