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| Deadpool |
Posted on 11-03-2008 22:41
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CrueTrue - No proven dopers, Di Luca is still under investigation, as is Valverde. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 11-03-2008 22:42
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Also climber, I didn't say anything about GC. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-03-2008 22:50
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Deadpool wrote:
CrueTrue - No proven dopers, Di Luca is still under investigation, as is Valverde.
You can make a case for any guy on that list, but just guys that have been caught, I see two of them on that list. And no, I'm not counting Di Luca.
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| matt493 |
Posted on 11-03-2008 22:54
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Contador isn't a better climber them Soler he's a better stage racer but not just on climbing.
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| Takitdown |
Posted on 11-03-2008 22:55
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i don't know Oscar Pererio, i know a guy named Oscar Pereiro
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-03-2008 22:57
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matt493 wrote:
Contador isn't a better climber them Soler he's a better stage racer but not just on climbing.
Contador dropped Soler in every mountain stage in which they were together...
Takitdown wrote:
i don't know Oscar Perer io, i know a guy named Oscar Pereiro
English speaking audiences have huge problems with names that have an "e" followed by an "i". it's not just Pereiro in cycling. Most times they'll spell it backwards. It's Paulo Ferreira in Football, Mike Ribeiro in Hockey, etc.
It's okay. We have similar problems with other names, so... 
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 11-03-2008 23:07
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Who are you thinking of CrueTrue...
Also, guys that were caught a while ago, and appear to be clean now I don't count as dopeheads. |
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| Takitdown |
Posted on 11-03-2008 23:08
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issoisso wrote:
matt493 wrote:
Contador isn't a better climber them Soler he's a better stage racer but not just on climbing.
Contador dropped Soler in every mountain stage in which they were together...
Takitdown wrote:
i don't know Oscar Perer io, i know a guy named Oscar Pereiro
English speaking audiences have huge problems with names that have an "e" followed by an "i". it's not just Pereiro in cycling. Most times they'll spell it backwards. It's Paulo Ferreira in Football, Mike Ribeiro in Hockey, etc.
It's okay. We have similar problems with other names, so...
I wasn't judging him i was just warning him to an error |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-03-2008 23:12
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Takitdown wrote:
I wasn't judging him i was just warning him to an error
Yeah, I know, just commenting
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Also, guys that were caught a while ago, and appear to be clean now I don't count as dopeheads.
depends on your definition of "appear". How I understand that "appear to be clean" sentence, I still rank the same two guys exactly as I put them
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| matt493 |
Posted on 11-03-2008 23:21
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issoisso wrote:
matt493 wrote:
Contador isn't a better climber them Soler he's a better stage racer but not just on climbing.
Contador dropped Soler in every mountain stage in which they were together...
Yeah like 10 stages in when Soler was worn out because he's not a long race kind of gut unlike Contador. If you put them both on a mountain when there fully rested and no help to get them up that mountain, Soler will win.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 11-03-2008 23:21
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Guys who aren't under suspicion for doping now |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-03-2008 23:24
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matt493 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
matt493 wrote:
Contador isn't a better climber them Soler he's a better stage racer but not just on climbing.
Contador dropped Soler in every mountain stage in which they were together...
Yeah like 10 stages in when Soler was worn out because he's not a long race kind of gut unlike Contador. If you put them both on a mountain when there fully rested and no help to get them up that mountain, Soler will win.
you mean like in the first mountain stage where Soler lost 5:17 to Contador despite Contador losing time with a puncture?
EDIT: the other hole in that theory is that Soler had his best day 17 days into the Tour.
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Guys who aren't under suspicion for doping now
again, it depends wildly of your definition of who suspects them
Edited by issoisso on 11-03-2008 23:25
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Posted on 11-03-2008 23:43
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I forgot, did Contador officially win the Mountains, and Soler just wear the jersey (I'm pretty sure this isn't the case)? |
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Posted on 11-03-2008 23:46
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Deadpool wrote:
I forgot, did Contador officially win the Mountains, and Soler just wear the jersey (I'm pretty sure this isn't the case)?
Soler won with quite some lead, but that's hardly a best climber competition.
It's about who is the best climber among those who aren't in contention for the overall, as those are the only ones that the pack lets go on a breakaway on a big mountain stage (which is the only way to win that jersey)
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| dave92 |
Posted on 12-03-2008 01:24
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issoisso wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
I forgot, did Contador officially win the Mountains, and Soler just wear the jersey (I'm pretty sure this isn't the case)?
Soler won with quite some lead, but that's hardly a best climber competition.
It's about who is the best climber among those who aren't in contention for the overall, as those are the only ones that the pack lets go on a breakaway on a big mountain stage (which is the only way to win that jersey)
just look at Wegmann winning KOM in Giro, and some others, but I cant be botherd to look at any others.
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Posted on 12-03-2008 01:45
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I know, but it still counts for something, and Soler was keeping up with the big names on most of the stages. |
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Posted on 12-03-2008 05:12
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Soler should not have more votes then anyone up there except for perhaps pereiro or moreau.
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Posted on 12-03-2008 07:08
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Deadpool wrote:
Soler was keeping up with the big names on most of the stages.
He got into a breakaway on the stage to Briançon, so I'm discounting that one. Looking at all the other mountain stages, he lost 37 seconds on one, 5:37 on another, 3:29 on another, and 1:25 on another. Great for a first time, but not really keeping up
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 12-03-2008 07:58
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Di Luca got a sentence just 3 months ago. It wasn't for doping, but for being in contact with a doping doctor. And how, he's got a 2 year suspension hanging over his head. If that isn't "under suspicion", I don't know what is.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. The best climber in Pro Cycling Manager is, according to pretty much all DB-makers, Alberto Contador. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 12-03-2008 23:14
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I probability shouldn't have added him |
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