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Remove This, plz admin.
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:25
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Spoiler admirschleck wrote:
Would be cool if you don't remove backgrounds and present these jerseys as they're yours, when they aren't.
Firstly, you just copied Belkin shirt/design, without even replacing logo's position or anything else, re-coloured green "bar" on chest and back to orange, changed logo and you're pretending it's your jersey. It's not cool and it can be done in half of the minute.
Secondly, Nerri Sottoli NC is once again (as every other shirt) just few details added without even making a proper NC. Check Nerri Sottoli PCM14 folder and see what's their NC style and do it by that. You just basically copied that "Brasil" thing, which, once again, you didn't do by yourself and it's NC now? Not really.
Thirdly, you just added blue rectangle on IAM's jersey, which I don't even have to describe or explain. Giant, Cofidis...too.
Fourthly, it's pretty noticable that Bardiani is recoloured too, but it's finally a proper NC. Once again without any written or background credits to real maker, but it's proper one. Except stitches.
Fifthly, Google jersey could be nice one if you only add/correct few things.
- All shapes are really pixelated. With which program do you work in?
- Logos are interesting. There are awful logos like Specialized and Hincapie, which backgrounds aren't even deleted, but you have some really good logos like Google on shoulders.
- However, those lines on front shoulder will look bad in game, as they're only in front side and aren't continuing behind, which means they'll "stop" at the middle of shoulders. Which isn't the effect you wanted to make, is it?
- Specialized logos on back-lower part are too high and will look bad in-game with this white background. Try re-colouring this black font colour to white and try removing the background.
- Remove plis.
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Don't get this comment as hate, you definitely have some potential, but you, as everyone else, have to realize you have to give credits to original shirtamkers (I was in that phase few years ago, I know how it is...), either written, background or even both, which is the best. Your fantasy Google jersey isn't that bad for first try, but with correcting few things I named above and with using Cyclist Viewer to check if everything is on right place, you can only improve.
Keep it up.
That's your opinion. I haven't stolen anything so I'm not having a problem here.
1. The lines on the front shoulder look awesome in-game, according to 3 people who tested it. In-game you don't see the pixelated part.
2. I haven't been removing any backgrounds as all the jerseys I used to base my version off... They were white in the start and I changed them to grey to see the full picture. (e.g. if part of jersey was white, I would have some vision problems.
3. I'm creating NC jersey's so if my look for the jerseys don't look like the jerseys of the real team, it wouldn't be a NC jersey for a real team.
4. If u don't like this post, just leave. I have no need for you here.
5. I don't base off on versions of jerseys with a name on it as I don't steal.
6. Now, I see why schleck doesn't do good in the Tour anymore. He only talks about the other teams copying trek's jersey.
7. Much more to be said but I'm not using any more words on you.
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:27
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vcdm wrote:
we (ewan, myself, and others) have been in a skype call with him the whole time. he uses cyanide jerseys, and changes designs and colors. if he was coping he had no idea, also no offence but what do you expect a NC jersey for giant or any other team that looks nothing a giant jersey in the first place. lastly the google jersey looks fine. i mean no offence by this it's just my point of view

Please read my post once again. He copied original Cyanide jerseys without giving any credits. That's not how it's supposed to be done. Why would you ever remove background if you didn't want to pretend it's your jersey? He covered original backgrounds, didn't give any written credits, which I see as stealing others work.
Well, Google shirts looks fine, but it has alot of things that can be improved. I didn't want to say anything else, except to give him few advices to make his shirts better. You can't deny what I said above, no matter how good internet friends you are (somehow I know that, yes), as what I said is true.
I didn't want to offend him, just to make him pay a bit more attention on credits, as it's very sensible part of shirt-making. People are spending hours on those shirts and someone just comes like that and literally steals their work without even telling it's made by them. Not cool, you have to agree.
Edited by admirschleck on 12-07-2014 14:28
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| EwanWilson |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:27
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lordbenji33 wrote:
Spoiler admirschleck wrote:
Would be cool if you don't remove backgrounds and present these jerseys as they're yours, when they aren't.
Firstly, you just copied Belkin shirt/design, without even replacing logo's position or anything else, re-coloured green "bar" on chest and back to orange, changed logo and you're pretending it's your jersey. It's not cool and it can be done in half of the minute.
Secondly, Nerri Sottoli NC is once again (as every other shirt) just few details added without even making a proper NC. Check Nerri Sottoli PCM14 folder and see what's their NC style and do it by that. You just basically copied that "Brasil" thing, which, once again, you didn't do by yourself and it's NC now? Not really.
Thirdly, you just added blue rectangle on IAM's jersey, which I don't even have to describe or explain. Giant, Cofidis...too.
Fourthly, it's pretty noticable that Bardiani is recoloured too, but it's finally a proper NC. Once again without any written or background credits to real maker, but it's proper one. Except stitches.
Fifthly, Google jersey could be nice one if you only add/correct few things.
- All shapes are really pixelated. With which program do you work in?
- Logos are interesting. There are awful logos like Specialized and Hincapie, which backgrounds aren't even deleted, but you have some really good logos like Google on shoulders.
- However, those lines on front shoulder will look bad in game, as they're only in front side and aren't continuing behind, which means they'll "stop" at the middle of shoulders. Which isn't the effect you wanted to make, is it?
- Specialized logos on back-lower part are too high and will look bad in-game with this white background. Try re-colouring this black font colour to white and try removing the background.
- Remove plis.
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Don't get this comment as hate, you definitely have some potential, but you, as everyone else, have to realize you have to give credits to original shirtamkers (I was in that phase few years ago, I know how it is...), either written, background or even both, which is the best. Your fantasy Google jersey isn't that bad for first try, but with correcting few things I named above and with using Cyclist Viewer to check if everything is on right place, you can only improve.
Keep it up.
That's your opinion. I haven't stolen anything so I'm not having a problem here.
1. The lines on the front shoulder look awesome in-game, according to 3 people who tested it. In-game you don't see the pixelated part.
2. I haven't been removing any backgrounds as all the jerseys I used to base my version off... They were white in the start and I changed them to grey to see the full picture. (e.g. if part of jersey was white, I would have some vision problems.
3. I'm creating NC jersey's so if my look for the jerseys don't look like the jerseys of the real team, it wouldn't be a NC jersey for a real team.
4. If u don't like this post, just leave. I have no need for you here.
5. I don't base off on versions of jerseys with a name on it as I don't steal.
6. Now, I see why schleck doesn't do good in the Tour anymore. He only talks about the other teams copying trek's jersey.
7. Much more to be said but I'm not using any more words on you.
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Don't take this as a negative comment. You're just being a retard here.
Benji has a very valid point
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:28
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Spoiler admirschleck wrote:
vcdm wrote:
we (ewan, myself, and others) have been in a skype call with him the whole time. he uses cyanide jerseys, and changes designs and colors. if he was coping he had no idea, also no offence but what do you expect a NC jersey for giant or any other team that looks nothing a giant jersey in the first place. lastly the google jersey looks fine. i mean no offence by this it's just my point of view
Please read my post once again. He copied original Cyanide jerseys without giving any credits. That's not how it's supposed to be done. Why would you ever remove background if you didn't want to pretend it's your jersey? He covered original backgrounds, didn't give any written credits, which I see as stealing others work.
Well, Google shirts looks fine, but it has alot of things that can be improved. I didn't want to say anything else, except to give him few advices to make his shirts better. You can't deny what I said above, no matter how good internet friends you are (somehow I know that, yes), as what I said is true.
I didn't want to offend him, just to make him pay a bit more attention on credits, as it's very sensible part of shirt-making. People are spending hours on those shirts and someone just comes like that and literally steals their work without even telling it's made by them. Not cool, you have to agree.
Repeating: There was no background to be deleted. It was pure lovely white. + I do feel offended as you could imagine while re-reading your own comment.
Edited by BenjiNaesen on 12-07-2014 14:30
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| vcdm |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:34
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lordbenji33 wrote:
Repeating: There was no background to be deleted. It was pure lovely white. + I do feel offended as you could imagine while re-reading your own comment.
if the backgrounds were white, they were white nothing to change. |
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| steve smink |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:39
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My jerseys are 100% Legit and Original, stevesminks graphics thread |
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:41
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steve smink wrote:
My jerseys are 100% Legit and Original, stevesminks graphics thread
You need to credit the makers of the program, man! and the creators of the internet... and the creators of this forum for posting it. |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:45
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Uhm... Here's one jersey. Won't even bother myself to post others. Kinda noticable that design IS stolen and that there IS background with ORIGINAL shirtmaker on Belkin's jersey.
Edited by admirschleck on 12-07-2014 14:45
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:55
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Spoiler admirschleck wrote:
Uhm... Here's one jersey. Won't even bother myself to post others. Kinda noticable that design IS stolen and that there IS background with ORIGINAL shirtmaker on Belkin's jersey.


You're focusing on the wrong jersey. I didn't use the one you're posting.
Edited by BenjiNaesen on 12-07-2014 14:55
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 12-07-2014 14:58
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Hahahaha, wait, you are kidding with me, right? 
Firstly, it's so easy to add that grey background to Belkin, so I won't even comment it. Secondly, weren't you the one that said the original jerseys had white and not gray background, but you changed it to gray? Why don't just admit you copy/pasted designs and finish with this story. Just making drama out of it and it's pretty obvious you're wrong.
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:01
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admirschleck wrote:
Hahahaha, wait, you are kidding with me, right?
Firstly, it's so easy to add that grey background to Belkin, so I won't even comment it. Secondly, weren't you the one that said the original jerseys had white and not gray background, but you changed it to gray? Why don't just admit you copy/pasted designs and finish with this story. Just making drama out of it and it's pretty obvious you're wrong.
This is more white than grey imo... Grey is like on my other jersey. f.e. Google Jersey... It's not that obvious as I only see you thinking that...?
Edited by BenjiNaesen on 12-07-2014 15:03
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| vcdm |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:04
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i have proof that the one with a black background is a fdb jersey:

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now in the first pic it says the file is "bel" and the second pic it's also "bel". also the first pic clearly shows it's on fdbv10 |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:04
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That's not white man... On another side, Cyanide never-ever post jerseys with gray background, so it was pretty easy for you to just colour Belkin background by yourself. That takes like half of the minute. Even if background was gray, you should've said you copied design as you clearly did. No logo from bottom part is moved by milimeter and every shape is in the same position.
I am out of this thread. Try to avoid stealing others work next time (especially this visible and so noticable like that Rabobank shirt), it's not cool.
@vcdm - Your "proof 2" just shows that original Belkin jersey has background I showed above...
Edited by admirschleck on 12-07-2014 15:13
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| EwanWilson |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:06
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admirschleck wrote:
gray
admirschleck wrote:
gray
admirschleck wrote:
gray
admirschleck wrote:
gray
Edited by EwanWilson on 12-07-2014 15:08
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:10
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admirschleck wrote:
That's not white man... On another side, Cyanide never-ever post jerseys with gray background, so it was pretty easy for you to just colour Belkin background by yourself. That takes like half of the minute. Even if background was gray, you should've said you copied design as you clearly did. No logo from bottom part is moved by milimeter and every shape is in the same position.
I am out of this thread and won't be commenting more on this topic. Try to avoid stealing others work next time (especially this visible and so noticable like that Rabobank shirt), it's not cool.
@vcdm - Your "proof 2" just shows that original Belkin jersey has background I showed above... 
You're too retarded to follow what he tried to say. He meant the bel_maillot is a FDB jersey. Stupid. |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:10
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You didn't have to delete all your jerseys Benji, just to give credits. But whatever.
https://prntscr.co...
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| vcdm |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:12
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what im trying to point out is that they are both fdb files, btw yes it is the same jersey. also i can name my files what i like thank you very much. also you did ruin the thread but i guess there's nothing left here
Edited by vcdm on 12-07-2014 15:14
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| BenjiNaesen |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:13
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admirschleck wrote:
You didn't have to delete all your jerseys Benji, just to give credits. But whatever.
https://prntscr.co...

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Posted on 12-07-2014 15:14
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| MARSUPILAMI |
Posted on 12-07-2014 15:17
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What's happening here??
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