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| niconico |
Posted on 11-09-2013 18:39
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dave92 wrote:
Fantastic result for Puma, that will really put the pressure on B&O, i suspect Keinath will have a large role to play in that battle.
Goss managing 3rd here is better than I expected and should grow our small lead at the top. These last two races have convinced me that my squad has a legitimate shot at the crown, though I still believe Trofimov will come back to snatch it at the death.
He sure has. Colombia and Germany could get us some points and then there's GP Liechtenstein where I must hope for a Pluchkin win!
I did not expect this relegation danger! At least not before stage 13 of the Tour.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 11-09-2013 19:09
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niconico wrote:
dave92 wrote:
Fantastic result for Puma, that will really put the pressure on B&O, i suspect Keinath will have a large role to play in that battle.
Goss managing 3rd here is better than I expected and should grow our small lead at the top. These last two races have convinced me that my squad has a legitimate shot at the crown, though I still believe Trofimov will come back to snatch it at the death.
He sure has. Colombia and Germany could get us some points and then there's GP Liechtenstein where I must hope for a Pluchkin win!
I did not expect this relegation danger! At least not before stage 13 of the Tour.
VDB is basically in every race left that includes ascents as well. Colombia, Deutschland, Liechtenstein, Tasmania, Lombardia. If he remains as consistent as he was so far, Liechtenstein really is the key race.
Which is a real shame in a way.
Not only are you one of the most likeable teams, having a crash severely worsening your PT chances is unfair.
It doesn't feel quite right to compete and possibly outscore you for that last spot.
Oh, and lucky me just realised this was a sponsor goal! Which is by the way the first we achieve this season, coming just short of the Qatar and Köln ones and horribly failing the Giro one. 
Avoiding relegation is our last...
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 11-09-2013 19:14
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dave92 wrote:
Fantastic result for Puma, that will really put the pressure on B&O, i suspect Keinath will have a large role to play in that battle.
Goss managing 3rd here is better than I expected and should grow our small lead at the top. These last two races have convinced me that my squad has a legitimate shot at the crown, though I still believe Trofimov will come back to snatch it at the death.
Ouch, that's a bit too good by Goss for my liking. A relief he didn't win though!
Trofimov only got Tasmania and Lombardia left, so it's gonna take a team effort to come out on top for me.
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| beagle |
Posted on 11-09-2013 19:40
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Roman wrote:
Congrats cio, big thanks to tsmoha for the report!
5th is quite decent result with consider of that bad position of Bewley at the start of the sprint.
I have exactly same feelings, only with small differences 
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| tyriion |
Posted on 11-09-2013 20:47
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16th for Trentin in a PT flat classic. His colleagues in the PCT struggle to get that result in the HC races. Will be great to get him back 
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 11-09-2013 20:50
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tyriion wrote:
16th for Trentin in a PT flat classic. His colleagues in the PCT struggle to get that result in the HC races. Will be great to get him back
And with better stats too
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 15-09-2013 21:49
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Predictably quiet race for me, nice to have Kvasina in the break. I'm happy to have sent Swift to Norway rather than the lottery of a one day race.
A bit of shuffling in the positions 9-13 is the only effect on the standings, as Wikipedia add another 100 points to their lead - with a growing sense that this could be their year.
Santander stay 6th but are soon to be swallowed up by the chasing pack, and seem unlikely to be able to hold a Top 10 position.
The big news comes with Puma's victory though, of course. They have all but removed the deficit to Pendleton's and B&O, as we now look to the mountains of Colombia and Liechtenstein to shape the next updates in the standings.
| 1 | 1 |  | Wikipedia | 7218 | 216 | | 2 | 2 |  | Koenigsegg | 6918 | 116 | | 3 | 3 |  | Pearl Adidas | 6738 | 207 | | 4 | 4 |  | Vesuvio-Accumalux | 6158 | 45 | | 5 | 5 |  | Milka - AVG | 6087 | 202 | | 6 | 6 |  | Santander | 5873 | 15 | | 7 | 7 |  | Aker - MOT | 5735 | 103 | | 8 | 8 |  | UBS - BMC | 5704 | 126 | | 9 | 10 |  | Pokerstars.com | 5600 | 240 | | 10 | 9 |  | Simply Red Bull | 5575 | 100 | | 11 | 12 |  | Lotto - Cervélo | 5502 | 189 | | 12 | 13 |  | Festina - Canal+ | 5392 | 89 | | 13 | 11 |  | Wiggle Professional Cycling Team | 5374 | 57 | | 14 | 14 |  | Project 1t4i | 5067 | 96 | | 15 | 15 |  | Pendleton's | 4892 | 45 | | 16 | 16 |  | Team B&O | 4862 | 59 | | 17 | 17 |  | Team Puma - SAP | 4809 | 354 | | 18 | 18 |  | Heineken presented by California Giant Berry Farms | 4258 | 53 | | 19 | 19 |  | Team Bacardi | 3859 | 52 | | 20 | 20 |  | Pro Team Venchi - Sugoi | 3334 | 199 |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 00:20
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Wow, that looks even better than I expected.
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| SotD |
Posted on 16-09-2013 07:57
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Pretty good. I knew I would lose ground on Pokerstars and Lotto, but we kept Simply Red Bull close, and with Fothen in Colombia I'm hoping to overtake atleast 2 of those 3 teams. It should be possible, but obviously I don't know who the other teams have featured.
Simply Red Bull can keep us behind if, and only if, they have Emanuelle Sella in the race, but looking at the amount of racedays Sella have I can hope he isn't at the Colombia, though I fear he is.
Pokerstars can probably defend the 200 points deficit if José Rujano is riding, but yet again, only if he is racing.
Lotto shouldn't be able to keep us behind as I really can't see Cunego riding Colombia.
And looking at the teams behind me only Wiggle can possibly overtake us, and I can't really see that happening unless Fothen is seriously underperforming. I will be very eager to jump into the top 10 now as it really should be possible. I also should be closing the gap to Santander I think - But they do have some nice climbers that can potentially get a decent amount of points, eventhough their two strongest riders aren't present.
UBS and Aker (if Spilak is present) can keep the deficit or even build on it, while Milka and Vesuvio is probably gaining on us, or atleast leveling the score.
Fothen needs to be good here for us to climb further than 9th-10th, but every climb is worth noticing at this moment. Lavoine is in for hopefully a bid at a couple of stages, but he could possibly be one of the worse sprinters also.
I'm looking very much forward to Colombia and Deutschland Tour. The Liechtenstein GP not so much. I need to open up a big gap to Pokerstars though as Boonen might score big in the 2-3 of the remaining races.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 16-09-2013 10:28
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Erm. I'm slightly worried now. The 1000 point plus gap I had to the relegation positions has slowly been disappearing. With some mountain races coming up I suspect those gaps might come down some more. Hopefully the final classics will go my way a bit more. |
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| niconico |
Posted on 16-09-2013 10:36
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Auch! Keinath has to have some good GCs in Colombia and Germany. Pluchkin could win Liechtenstein aswell, so there's still something to hang my hat on.
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| ember |
Posted on 16-09-2013 11:39
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Hmm. This is going to be close. Too close 
Must admit I don't feel say at all, considering I doubt we'll pick up any major points before Tasmania/Lombardia, where Boasson Hagen rounds off his season.
For the one week stage races left, I'll hope for breakaway success, but we're unlikely to get any, meaning we'll miss out on most points in the continuation.
For the flat classics I need Vanoverschelde, Impey and Boasson Hagen to get their roles right, though getting Boasson Hagen to perform similar to MSR will probably be hard anyway.
It does of course depend on the other teams, but we're not really looking set for a lot of points the next two months of racing, thus I fear we'll be really close to the bottom four starting Tasmania.
But admittedly, a lot of things have to go wrong for us if we're going to relegate considering we've nine teams between us and 17th place, but you don't really know for sure in the ManGame, that's for sure
The fight for the crown is also shaping up to be a great one, and I wonder if Machado (if he races) can get Pearl Adidas to the very top of the ranking with a great race in Colombia.
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| SotD |
Posted on 16-09-2013 12:51
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You are not going to lose 1000 points on those behind you ember. I'm not even sure it's possible to create those amounts of points for that many teams. Well it is, but that would mean that none of the 3 last and all the teams ahead of you would score significant, and that is not going to happen.
Milka will take a good amount of points in Colombia, so will Vesuvio I'm sure. Also Baccardi will probably get a good points score at the Colombia.
So let's say 5 teams with no interest in your team gets a top 10 then the other 5 will be targeting you, and how many points are up for grabs for those? 1200-1500 in total I guess, meaning 200 odd points for those challenging you on average. You have a lot of elbowspace down to that relegaion battle mate. I'm not considering myself in any danger unless I gets seriously unlucky, and you are still 350 points ahead of me. I'm not going to catch you after Colombia. I could probably catch you after the Deutschland Tour, but then you will start moving away from me again.
I need to get lucky to get ahead of you, and stay there. Wiggle isn't going to overtake you either, as your teams are pretty similar. If you end up 15th or below that I think you have every right to be dissapointed
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| beagle |
Posted on 16-09-2013 19:12
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SotD wrote:
Pokerstars can probably defend the 200 points deficit if José Rujano is riding, but yet again, only if he is racing.
Unfortunately Rujano already closed his season.
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| SotD |
Posted on 17-09-2013 09:42
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beagle wrote:
SotD wrote:
Pokerstars can probably defend the 200 points deficit if José Rujano is riding, but yet again, only if he is racing.
Unfortunately Rujano already closed his season.
Interesting choice, not having him race Colombia - It should suit him well. But that's my advantage I guess
Hopefully I'll be able to catch you soon then, and then hopefully I can move a fair bit ahead during the Deutschland Tour
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| beagle |
Posted on 18-09-2013 08:04
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You´re right, it suits him well. But, because of 12 stages, I decided to send him to shorter races like Catalunya or Pais Vasco. Hard to say, if my decision was good or bad though.
You´ll definitely catch me very soon, I´ll hardly score in Columbia and Liechtenstein.
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| SotD |
Posted on 18-09-2013 15:08
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Looking at the raceprofile for Pais Vasco that probably wasn't the best possible pick for him - But I haven't cross checked with the results though
It's always a gamble. I put in a shitty team (on paper) for the Tour de France, but even so I managed to make as much a result there as I did in the Vuelta and Giro where I had strong lineups. So it's sometimes up to the good fortunes aswell
Even if I catch you I suspect I will struggle to keep you behind for the remaining season. Boonen must have something like 700 points left in him - Perhaps even more. A TONE victory could be very well giving.
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 29-10-2014 07:13
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Couldn't resist posting this here:
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/inaug...e-revealed
The route is actually quite similar to the one we made here. Cadel Evans a mangame-follower maybe?
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