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First Impressions
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| muttisr |
Posted on 22-06-2013 17:48
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same as npass43, took 4600MB 
On the TTT I used all my riders actually, but I sprinted before changing rider so the newone should get a flying start, though you should sprint the red bar all the way down... Ofc. When i won it with Radioshack, cancellara took longer shifts than the others, but it wasn't that hard really. |
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 23-06-2013 18:36
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Having played all the previous games, and now played 1 stage of this game all I can say is .... Awesome. Riding the whole stage was great.
I chose Europcar and a quick tour. 1st stage was Stage 3. An early climb, a climb in the middle and a climb just before the end. I chose Voeckler. Attcacked on the 1st climb, went over the top and was on my own for a while. I had a message Chavanel was losing touch, so I switched to him to try and get him back with the peleton which I did I think??
When I switched back to Voeckler I was now in a 4 man breakway with Henao, Gesink and Pazzato. We went 6:28 clear before the peleton tried to reel it in. It was down to just under 2 mins when I attacked on the last climb then pegged it downhill. I had a gap of 2:40 over Gesink and Henao and coasted over the line for victory. It gave me 17 secs over Gesink and Henao and over a minute back to the peleton.
However, when the overall standings wree shown, Voeckler, Henao and Gesink all had the same time, 1:05 clear of everyone else??? 1st little bug I've seen.
I loved using the triggers to pedal and brake, and total steering with the stick.
Some of the attention to detail is astonishing.
In the brekaway every now and then it popped up the % each member was putting in to the relay - superb.
When relaying the guy in front would motion his hand for someone else to take over - superb
The comms guy always had some useful info, like gradients and time gaps. The graphics are great with the 1km banners etc all in position.
The change to the gameplay has revolutionised this game for me. I got bored of the previous ones very quickly. But now with the differing team objectives and the quick tour options I can see me playing this for ages, going through each team and trying for the objectives. Maybe one thing I would change though is for the quick tour, that the stages you don't play to be simulated, so at the end you get realistic outcomes. The only way I can see of doing this is to choose all stages and fast forward the ones you don't want to play, but that looks time consuming.
The learning curve is steep though, I restarted the stage 3 times as I got used to steering and braking. Going downhill takes a lot of skill. RB is great for following, but if you've been relaying you've got to be careful when easing off, you actually need to be pedalling for RB to work. A couple of times I dropped off slightly and had to pedal a bit to catch up. Didn't have to do much with the comms menu as I was in the breakaway so the sprint challenge will come with another team.
First impressions are - great game
Edited by mikeeboy on 23-06-2013 18:47
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 23-06-2013 18:40
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I spent a bit of time in the editor. So far I noticed COM needed changing to BMC and the riders of BMC, SKY and Omega_Pharma needed changing.
Unfortunately, in the overall standings, riders still have COM next to their name.
Edited by mikeeboy on 23-06-2013 18:40
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 23-06-2013 18:56
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This thread really convinced me and I ordered the game through amazon.
So the mountain AI is also better, like in the pc game? |
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| Christer |
Posted on 23-06-2013 19:09
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mikeeboy wrote:
However, when the overall standings wree shown, Voeckler, Henao and Gesink all had the same time, 1:05 clear of everyone else??? 1st little bug I've seen.
That's not a bug. I finished in the far back of the peloton once, on a flat stage. It was mass sprint. On the stage ranking screen (the one you see while waiting for riders to finish.) I ended up over 1 minute behind the winner. If it was a bug like you said, I would have lost a minute when I finished in the group. While the system isn't perferct for every single scenario, it works very well for sprint stages. The game simply considered you all in the same group. My guess is that it was a flat stage, and if that's the case, you need quite a big gap to get it counting as a gap.
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 23-06-2013 19:27
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Christer wrote:
mikeeboy wrote:
However, when the overall standings wree shown, Voeckler, Henao and Gesink all had the same time, 1:05 clear of everyone else??? 1st little bug I've seen.
That's not a bug. I finished in the far back of the peloton once, on a flat stage. It was mass sprint. On the stage ranking screen (the one you see while waiting for riders to finish.) I ended up over 1 minute behind the winner. If it was a bug like you said, I would have lost a minute when I finished in the group. While the system isn't perferct for every single scenario, it works very well for sprint stages. The game simply considered you all in the same group. My guess is that it was a flat stage, and if that's the case, you need quite a big gap to get it counting as a gap.
Yes I agree for flat stages, this one isn't though, unless the game thinks it is.
A lone finisher 17 seconds clear of 2 riders who in turn are about a minute ahead of the peleton, those gaps should remain.
Edited by mikeeboy on 23-06-2013 19:29
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 23-06-2013 19:35
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Ian Butler wrote:
This thread really convinced me and I ordered the game through amazon.
So the mountain AI is also better, like in the pc game?
Well I just played a 2nd stage which had a HC climb just before another climb to the finish. I was Voeckler and was struggling to keep up and once the yellow bar had gone I was limping my way home 1'51" back.
Contador won by 34 secs from Valverde, Gadret(who was the lone breakway), Froome and Nibali. The next 6 at various intervals were Gesink, Sanchez, Van Garderen, Rolland, Schleck and Van Den Broeck before Voeckler. |
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| partybaer658 |
Posted on 23-06-2013 19:43
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Is there a possibility to use the equipment from the "PCM.daily's 2013 DB" for PCM 13? |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 23-06-2013 23:35
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partybaer658 wrote:
Is there a possibility to use the equipment from the "PCM.daily's 2013 DB" for PCM 13?
Wrong thread.
However, is there an editor this year? I mean not just a name editor. |
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| Christer |
Posted on 24-06-2013 06:43
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mikeeboy wrote:
Spoiler Christer wrote:
mikeeboy wrote:
However, when the overall standings wree shown, Voeckler, Henao and Gesink all had the same time, 1:05 clear of everyone else??? 1st little bug I've seen.
That's not a bug. I finished in the far back of the peloton once, on a flat stage. It was mass sprint. On the stage ranking screen (the one you see while waiting for riders to finish.) I ended up over 1 minute behind the winner. If it was a bug like you said, I would have lost a minute when I finished in the group. While the system isn't perferct for every single scenario, it works very well for sprint stages. The game simply considered you all in the same group. My guess is that it was a flat stage, and if that's the case, you need quite a big gap to get it counting as a gap.
Yes I agree for flat stages, this one isn't though, unless the game thinks it is.
A lone finisher 17 seconds clear of 2 riders who in turn are about a minute ahead of the peleton, those gaps should remain.
If I remember correctly, the stage analysis you can read before the stage and while it's loading implies that it's a stage for sprinters. I do, however, agree with you. A 17 second gap should count on all stages. This game isn't perfect, but it's pretty damn fun, though! 
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| AllyC |
Posted on 24-06-2013 15:39
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got it delivered (for ps3) on day of release from 365 (around £29 I think it was). haven't really got stuck into it properly yet.....but spent a bit of time editing the teams and riders (right pain in the a*se but worth it imo).
tried a couple of stages so far - an ITT as I remember it taking me a while to get to grips with TT'ing in the last game (bouncing off verges and coming off the pedals....what's was that all about anyway hehe) & the mont ventoux stage (waow).
from what i've seen so far, loadsa improvments from the last release....just need to get a handle on making adjustments/using the comms while still controlling the rider. lol |
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 24-06-2013 19:59
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The comms menu is a bit fiddly. To get everyone relaying you need to select everyone in turn and then choose relay. The trouble is if you want to increase the tempo, it means selecting everyone again and then cycling through the relay speeds. You could be short of time when it comes to sprint mode. |
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| Christer |
Posted on 25-06-2013 05:26
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You can give the same command to multiple people at the same time. Want the entire team to relay? Press the button you used to open up team commands menu (square on PS3), and that will select that rider. When you have selected everyone you want to use for that command, you can press confirm (X on PS3), and the riders you have selected will do what you told them to do. 
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 25-06-2013 08:43
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Christer wrote:
You can give the same command to multiple people at the same time. Want the entire team to relay? Press the button you used to open up team commands menu (square on PS3), and that will select that rider. When you have selected everyone you want to use for that command, you can press confirm (X on PS3), and the riders you have selected will do what you told them to do.
Yes I know, but once you've done that if you wanted to increase the tempo of the relay fast/faster/fastest/sprint train, you would need to select everyone again and cycle through the relay speeds to the one you want. That involves 12+ button presses and is a little bit cumbersome. The end of the race might be happening a little bit too quickly for that. |
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 25-06-2013 09:14
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I finished my quick tour with Europcar. The final stage round the Champs Elysee wasn't too realistic. As Voeckler was already in green I decided to go for more points to try and keep it. He ended up in a 4 man break picking up the intermediate easily before the peleton started chasing us down. When it was down to 30 secs I just slipped it in to high gear and went for it. Left the other 3 behind and increased the gap to the peleton before sprinting over the line. I had plenty of yellow plus a couple of feeds in reserve.
It was just too easy. You shouldn't be able to outrun the peleton in that situation.
Rolland had the polka dot courtesy of 2 mountain top stage wins. He lost too much time in the time trial to win overall but finished 3rd to complete an objective.
I suppose the game has to stretch the realism a litlle for the rider you are controlling, otherwise you wouldn't be able to complete the objectives. Some objectives may still turn out to be a bit tricky but at the moment I'm getting the feeling that the game overall is a little too easy.
Still a fun game though that I will be playing for some time.
Edited by mikeeboy on 25-06-2013 09:14
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 25-06-2013 09:38
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mikeeboy wrote:
Christer wrote:
You can give the same command to multiple people at the same time. Want the entire team to relay? Press the button you used to open up team commands menu (square on PS3), and that will select that rider. When you have selected everyone you want to use for that command, you can press confirm (X on PS3), and the riders you have selected will do what you told them to do.
Yes I know, but once you've done that if you wanted to increase the tempo of the relay fast/faster/fastest/sprint train, you would need to select everyone again and cycle through the relay speeds to the one you want. That involves 12+ button presses and is a little bit cumbersome. The end of the race might be happening a little bit too quickly for that.
Is the command gone from last year: set up sprint train? |
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 25-06-2013 10:38
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I haven't tried it yet but yes you can set up a sprint train. In the comms menu select all the riders using x/square, confirm with A/X, then highlight Relay and keep pressing Y/Triangle until you get to the sprint option then confirm.
Took me a while to work out how to cycle through the relay speeds.
Edited by mikeeboy on 25-06-2013 10:45
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| mikeeboy |
Posted on 25-06-2013 11:01
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superider2010 wrote:
thanks man
with gilbert and cancellara it's 90% winning stages from breakaways,flat and hilly
Yes I think the game is a bit too easy. The high gear is too powerful.
On the hilly stages as long as you can make it uphill, you get all of your yellow bar back downhill enabling a high speed run to the line. Armed with 2 yellow bar feeds to help as well.
Edited by mikeeboy on 25-06-2013 11:05
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| StefanG |
Posted on 25-06-2013 17:08
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Are there no difficulty levels/settings? |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 26-06-2013 15:00
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Nope.
Just bought it and tested it: 2-day Tour with Contador. Stage 1: Ventoux. Stage 2: D"Huez. It was fun, but adjusting to the new game, because much has changed!
I also kept riding to the side because the controls are so twitchy but it's a great game! Also tried a time trial with Martin, but Wiggins passed me  |
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