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Dauphine Libere 2008 Discussion
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 04-11-2007 17:01
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i liked the doping gestures
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| Setzel |
Posted on 04-11-2007 17:02
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andy did well  B)
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Posted on 04-11-2007 17:54
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Leipheimer is one of the best climbers AND time trialists, and he doesn't even finish in the top 10. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 04-11-2007 18:00
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"one of the best" is just not good enough in a mountain TT. On a mountain TT, it's primarily the mountain stat which is being used. The best (not one of the best) climber will win. However, the TT-stat is also used a little - not very much, but a little - and that means the best climber with the best TT-stat wins  |
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Posted on 04-11-2007 18:14
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anymore stages today ?
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Posted on 04-11-2007 18:16
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CrueTrue wrote:
"one of the best" is just not good enough in a mountain TT. On a mountain TT, it's primarily the mountain stat which is being used. The best (not one of the best) climber will win. However, the TT-stat is also used a little - not very much, but a little - and that means the best climber with the best TT-stat wins
Well he was good enough to finish third in the Tour de France (undoped, I understand he was fourth with Rasmussen). Ugh, I need anti-aging medicine for Levi. |
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Posted on 04-11-2007 18:59
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I see you added Kash dope and Valv.piti, be sure to add RasDynepoMussen next the next time you mention his name. Because we all know he is as big a cheat as any of them.
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 04-11-2007 19:03
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stemple wrote:
I see you added Kash dope and Valv.piti, be sure to add RasDynepoMussen next the next time you mention his name. Because we all know he is as big a cheat as any of them.
actually we don't, because as far as i remember he hasn't tested positive once, he just said he was in Mexico when he wasn't.
So unless he has tested positive and i forgot, then we don't know he is a doper and he can't be accused of such things, for simply saying he was in Mexico when he was in Italy.
(if he has tested positive then i apologise, i forgot)
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Posted on 04-11-2007 19:16
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if we start doping thread here i can talk days about riders ... nicknames ...like valv piti rasdynepo and so on...
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| wildcat000 |
Posted on 04-11-2007 19:21
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I was just talking about Levi's podium finish, not about that stuff. |
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| Setzel |
Posted on 04-11-2007 19:23
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Yeah but other people just started doping thread in dauphine thread...
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| stemple |
Posted on 04-11-2007 19:27
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Addy291 wrote:
stemple wrote:
I see you added Kash dope and Valv.piti, be sure to add RasDynepoMussen next the next time you mention his name. Because we all know he is as big a cheat as any of them.
actually we don't, because as far as i remember he hasn't tested positive once, he just said he was in Mexico when he wasn't.
So unless he has tested positive and i forgot, then we don't know he is a doper and he can't be accused of such things, for simply saying he was in Mexico when he was in Italy.
(if he has tested positive then i apologise, i forgot )
And this is the last thing i will say on this, but correct me if i am wrong, but has Valverde (Valv.Piti) tested postive. Oh that is right he hasn't, how could i forget.
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Posted on 04-11-2007 19:30
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okey now i am mad let's start !
Valverde Rassmusen Savoldelli Di Luca Ricco Mayo Kloden Vino Kash Pettachi Mazzolenni Schumacher Bettini Sinkewitz
Want more ???
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 04-11-2007 19:36
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stemple wrote:
And this is the last thing i will say on this, but correct me if i am wrong, but has Valverde (Valv.Piti) tested postive. Oh that is right he hasn't, how could i forget.
not quite the same actually, Valv.Piti is on the list of dopers for Dr. Fuentes and is obviously Valverde, with the first 4 letters of his surname and the name of his dog
whereas Rasmussen went to Italy and didn't tell anybody
I'm not saying that Rasmussen isn't a doper, but there is a lot more evidence against Valverde than there is against Rasmussen
and i will leave it there, as this has nothing to do with Dauphine Libere
Edited by Addy291 on 04-11-2007 19:38
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Posted on 04-11-2007 19:40
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One final word
The big difference between Valverde and Rassmusen is that
Ras was kicked out of the Tdf while leading and Valv is still riding and has a team
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 04-11-2007 19:44
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setzel wrote:
One final word
The big difference between Valverde and Rassmusen is that
Ras was kicked out of the Tdf while leading and Valv is still riding and has a team
sorry couldn't resist, but if it wasn't Spanish authorities leading the investigation of "operation puerto" Valverde and lots of other Spaniards would've been suspended.
As they are Spanish riders they were given slightly preferential treatment.
and that definatley is my last word on it, as i hate talking about doping
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Posted on 04-11-2007 19:47
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me 2 so that was my las view 
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Posted on 04-11-2007 19:47
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People let it rest. These doping discussions are getting tiresome, as its the same old halfbaked facts and suspicions being bandied about.
Crue made som jokes, dont take it seriously!
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 04-11-2007 20:06
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Yeah, I really didn't think it would cause any argumentations. It was only for the fun of it -- just like last season when Mr. Vinokourov was renamed |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 04-11-2007 21:07
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Well done Rujano, I'll happily take 2nd by Cadel, and thanks for putting us in bold CrueTrue 
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