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wackojackohighcliffe
rjc_43 wrote:
He had the backing of Valverde, whom he could apparantly follow up the climbs. Not bitter, just feel that if he was so good, why'd he move to the USA, and not go back to being amateur in Spain, or somewhere with climbs [that matter, unlike in the US, where the majority of coverage is on flat crits].


Yeah, that's it, that's who he followed on the Baxter camp. Yeah quite agree, was just thinking you should be taking his place.Smile
 
rjc_43
Aha! I like your optimism. I don't think I'll be climbing as well as he does, though, when he pops back into town next off-season, I will be running after him trying to get his autograph, you know, just for fun. And then try and persuade him to be my new best training buddy. It's all about who you know...!
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mb2612
Well, Mancebo is dominating the US circuit currently, and he is definitely a climber.

I guess he went there because someone hired him.

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Please assume I am joking unless otherwise stated
 
rjc_43
He's also a doper.

EDIT: Which American sports don't seem to mind. If I have my facts right, is it ok for American football players to dope in the off-season? Bit of a stupid mentality if you ask me, but then...[continues waffling anti-american speak]
Edited by rjc_43 on 09-05-2011 22:35
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wackojackohighcliffe
Well Barry Bonds is still doing rather niocely is he not?
 
mb2612
Obviously, but a doped Contador can't out sprint a clean Cav, so my point that there must be plenty of hilly races still stands.

As far as American sports goes, doping is pretty fair game, with two week bans being fairly standard, although most sports care much less than cycling does.
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chrica04
mb2612 wrote:
Obviously, but a doped Contador can't out sprint a clean Cav, so my point that there must be plenty of hilly races still stands.

As far as American sports goes, doping is pretty fair game, with two week bans being fairly standard, although most sports care much less than cycling does.


Two week bans......not in cycling/triathlon/baseball/running/etc. Don't know where your finding your information on my country.
 
ltt
chrica04 wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
Obviously, but a doped Contador can't out sprint a clean Cav, so my point that there must be plenty of hilly races still stands.

As far as American sports goes, doping is pretty fair game, with two week bans being fairly standard, although most sports care much less than cycling does.


Two week bans......not in cycling/triathlon/baseball/running/etc. Don't know where your finding your information on my country.


How about Shawne Merriman in American Football, 4 week ban for steroids. I seem to remember Rodney Harrison getting a 6 or 8 week ban as well and I think that was 2nd or 3rd offense, could be wrong about that though.

And its only really since the whole Balco and the following Senate inquiry that baseball has started to do anything about steroids
 
chrica04
ltt wrote:
chrica04 wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
Obviously, but a doped Contador can't out sprint a clean Cav, so my point that there must be plenty of hilly races still stands.

As far as American sports goes, doping is pretty fair game, with two week bans being fairly standard, although most sports care much less than cycling does.


Two week bans......not in cycling/triathlon/baseball/running/etc. Don't know where your finding your information on my country.


How about Shawne Merriman in American Football, 4 week ban for steroids. I seem to remember Rodney Harrison getting a 6 or 8 week ban as well and I think that was 2nd or 3rd offense, could be wrong about that though.

And its only really since the whole Balco and the following Senate inquiry that baseball has started to do anything about steroids


Yeah, I am not trying to pick fights, I know there are some large loopholes in the football area....but it is better. Now that the USADA is starting to pull things outta their a$$
 
wackojackohighcliffe
mb2612 wrote:
As far as American sports goes, doping is pretty fair game, with two week bans being fairly standard, although most sports care much less than cycling does.


Yeah, cycling does enough to attract a lot of bad publicity but not enough to eradicate doping.
 
CrueTrue
Even the punters of American football teams are doped Pfft

This blog-thing explains the problem pretty well:
https://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/...ill/070731

The conclusion:
There is no way American sports are any cleaner than cycling. In fact, if our sports were held to world anti-doping standards, the cycling's scandals would seem mild by comparison.
 
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