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SotD
Gustavovskiy wrote:
I think nobody will be able to challenge Cancellara here unless a catastrophe happens. However the rest of the top10 he's going to be very unpredictable. Of course the cobblers have a real chance here but on the other hand the puncheurs might their shot as well.

As SotD I also decided to put my faith in my Sanchez, given that the hills come before the cobbles and might provide an advantage over rivals like Boonen or Burghardt.

Given LLS performances so far I'm just hoping he doesn't fall out of the top10 but that Roubaix stage has a really threatning pose.


Looking at last seasons Roubaix stage, Samuel Sánchez lost 11 minutes on the winner, which will mean that he will likely drop well out of the top 10, hopefully he will have a 10+ min advantage on the weaker hilly-cobbled riders, and then I hope the 10+ minutes is only lost on riders such as Ballan, Boonen and Burghardt, and then it will be somewhere from 5-7minutes on the subtop cobblers... So with a good amount of luck and a very good stage 4, which hopefully makes a small group including Sammy, gain a couple of minutes, then I stand a slight chance of top 10 with Samuel Sánchez but I'm here for the stagehunts Smile
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rjc_43
Boom Boom baby!
 
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Smowz
Is the Energie Diesal bid to stay in the protour gathering momentum?
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SotD
Nicely done from Nolf getting a slightly bigger lead. My fingers are heavily crossed for him to go into the attack tomorrow aswell. That could give me some very nice points!

Samuel Sanchez also needs to be awake tomorrow as it is his one chance to regain the yellow jersey and earn us some points. It was very clear that Blaise Sonnery wasn't strong enough to do anything at all in the sprints, so I have to rely on attacks in the last flat stages...

So for stage 4 our absolute dream scenario is Nolf away in attack securing mountain jersey and Sammy Sánchez in a great move to secure yellow and perhaps some much needed minutes on some of the cobblers.
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SotD
Smowz wrote:
Is the Energie Diesal bid to stay in the protour gathering momentum?


They need quite a result as Nespresso leads them with over 300 points at this stage, and Carmeuse is definately moving clear after this race.
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Gustavovskiy
SotD wrote:
Smowz wrote:
Is the Energie Diesal bid to stay in the protour gathering momentum?


They need quite a result as Nespresso leads them with over 300 points at this stage, and Carmeuse is definately moving clear after this race.


Sadly I have to agree with SotD. At this point I'd need a miracle to secure my PT status.

On the other hand I'm very satisfied with Corioni's 2nd place. I just love the way he picks the right wheel.
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Crommy
Awesome stage for me Cool

Now if Cancellara messes this up from this position...Angry
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p3druh
If Bakelants manages to hang on to a Top-10 it will be a miracle so any points from now on from this race are gravy.
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rjc_43
If I take away the riders who are going to lose minutes on the cobbles, and in the last TT, I can see Boom coming in the top 5. If he doesn't have any bad luck.
 
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SotD
YES! Another great performance. Too bad the gaps werent bigger though but I have already achieved everything I can here. Nolf takes 40 points+7 days in polka dots, Sammy Sánchez takes a win a second and 2 days in the leaders jersey. This has already by far exceded my expectations. Well done Sammy and Nolf!
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SotD
rjc_43 wrote:
If I take away the riders who are going to lose minutes on the cobbles, and in the last TT, I can see Boom coming in the top 5. If he doesn't have any bad luck.


Yeah. If he doesn't crash you should have a podium position I think Smile
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CrueTrue
Also looks good for Devolder. Cancellara will crash, and Devolder will win Wink
 
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SotD
Any chance we can get a full GC? I have been looking through the riders in the top 30, and based on that Sammy actually got a slim chance of top 10, but there might be some very strong cobblers within the next couple of places Smile
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alexkr00
Well, I usually don't post the full GC because it's quite easy to see who didn't lose time to the pack in the previous stages.

But anyway, here it is. I think you need to add 12 seconds to the time shown to have the correct difference between them and Sanchez.

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31 Jérome Giaux Team IKEA - Bianchi + 5'38
32 Mitch Docker Lafarge s.t.
33 Aleksandar Flügel Team IKEA - Bianchi s.t.
34 Remmert Wielinga La Gazzetta dello Sport s.t.
35 Jurgen Roelandts Carmeuse Cyclisme + 5'42
36 Daniel Fleeman Domina Vacanze s.t.
37 Assan Bazajev Sony Ericsson + 5'46
38 Morgan Kneisky Carmeuse Cyclisme s.t.
39 David Vitoria Pearl Adidas s.t.
40 Sebastian Langeveld Auber 93 - Look + 5'38
41 Stefan Denifl Festina - Corona + 5'39
42 Laurens Ten Dam Jack Wolfskin + 5'46
43 Kristjan Fajt Team Starbucks-RadioShack s.t.
44 Thomas Faiers Vesuvio-Accumalux s.t.
45 Niels Albert Team IKEA - Bianchi + 5'47
46 Björn Schröder Domina Vacanze + 5'50
47 Leonardo Duque Energie - Diesel + 5'54
48 Nick Nuyens Domina Vacanze s.t.
49 Klaas Sys Jack Wolfskin s.t.
50 José Antonio Redondo Warner Brothers - Carrefour + 5'58
51 Martin Reimer Philips - TDC s.t.
52 Maurice Schreurs Philips - TDC s.t.
53 Denis Galimzyanov Vesuvio-Accumalux s.t.
54 Jan Hopman Vesuvio-Accumalux s.t.
55 Christian Knees Café de Colombia + 5'59
56 Pierrick Fédrigo Team Nespresso s.t.
57 Alex Dowsett La Gazzetta dello Sport + 6'03
58 Nikolas Maes Auber 93 - Look + 6'06
59 Marcus Burghardt Wikipedia s.t.
60 Nicolas Portal Team Nespresso + 6'07
61 Geert Steurs Team Nespresso + 6'10
62 Kenny De Ketele Warner Brothers - Carrefour s.t.
63 Rudi Van Houts Warner Brothers - Carrefour + 6'11
64 Thomas Vedel Kvist Festina - Corona + 6'14
65 Honorio Machado Café de Colombia + 6'18
66 Thomas Rabou Jack Wolfskin + 6'22
67 Matti Breschel Team Starbucks-RadioShack + 6'26
68 Heinrich Haussler Auber 93 - Look + 6'27
69 Matej Mugerli La Gazzetta dello Sport s.t.
70 Cesare Di Maggio Lipton Ice Tea + 6'30
71 Blaise Sonnery Festina - Corona s.t.
72 Anders Lund Philips - TDC s.t.
73 Rafael Rodríguez Segarra La Gazzetta dello Sport + 6'34
74 Francisco Matamoros Lipton Ice Tea s.t.
75 Michel Kreder Jack Wolfskin s.t.
76 Jérôme Baugnies Lipton Ice Tea + 6'38
77 Pieter Jacobs Carmeuse Cyclisme s.t.
78 Dennis Van Winden La Gazzetta dello Sport + 6'39
79 Yannick Talabardon Warner Brothers - Carrefour + 6'42
80 Pieter Vanspeybrouck Team IKEA - Bianchi s.t.
81 Santo Anza Sony Ericsson + 6'46
82 Paride Grillo Sony Ericsson s.t.
83 Francis Mourey Festina - Corona + 6'50
84 Marcel Kittel Vesuvio-Accumalux + 6'53
85 Danny Summerhill Café de Colombia + 6'58
86 Michel Sibilla Team Nespresso s.t.
87 Constantino Zaballa Energie - Diesel + 7'06
88 Sebastian Lang Sony Ericsson + 7'10
89 Sergio Marinangeli La Gazzetta dello Sport s.t.
90 Manuele Mori Sony Ericsson s.t.
91 Jonas Ljungblad Team IKEA - Bianchi + 7'18
92 Vicente Reynès Café de Colombia + 7'30
93 Pedro Merino Criado Vesuvio-Accumalux s.t.
94 Alexis Castro Rodriguez Warner Brothers - Carrefour + 8'06
95 Jure Zrimsek Lipton Ice Tea + 8'13
96 Martin Mortensen Sony Ericsson + 8'18
97 Kasper Klostergaard Philips - TDC + 8'22
98 Tom Veelers Team B&O + 8'29
99 Ronan Van Zandbeek Lafarge s.t.
100 Tyler Farrar Wikipedia + 8'38
101 Wout Poels Jack Wolfskin + 8'50
102 José Joaquin Rojas Gil Energie - Diesel + 8'54
103 Baden Cooke Domina Vacanze + 8'57
104 Damien Gaudin Auber 93 - Look + 9'06
105 Remco Broers Wikipedia + 9'09
106 Bas Giling Jack Wolfskin s.t.
107 Aleksandr Serebriakov Philips - TDC + 9'14
108 Hans Dekkers Jack Wolfskin s.t.
109 Mark Renshaw Team Starbucks-RadioShack + 9'22
110 Tom Leezer Pearl Adidas s.t.
111 Wim De Vocht Pearl Adidas + 9'25
112 Mauro Richeze Pearl Adidas + 9'26
113 Martin Pedersen Philips - TDC + 9'30
114 Steven Tronet Auber 93 - Look + 9'34
115 Kobe Vanoverschelde Team B&O + 9'49
116 Wouter Weylandt Carmeuse Cyclisme + 9'50
117 Johann Tschopp Team Starbucks-RadioShack + 9'54
118 Gianluca Coletta Warner Brothers - Carrefour s.t.
119 Óscar Avelino Lipton Ice Tea + 10'01
120 Marco Alexandre Ferreira Cunha Energie - Diesel + 10'05
121 Claudio Corioni Energie - Diesel + 10'10
122 Héctor Fabian Aguilar Team Nespresso + 10'13
123 Isaac Speirs Domina Vacanze + 10'34
124 Frederik Nolf Festina - Corona + 10'43
125 Wen Hao Li Festina - Corona + 11'29
126 Adam Petrie-Armstrong Lipton Ice Tea + 11'42
127 Kevin Peeters Lafarge + 12'18
128 Jonathon Thire Auber 93 - Look + 12'29
129 Greg De Winde Warner Brothers - Carrefour + 12'30
130 Kenny De Haes Pearl Adidas + 12'48
131 Danilo Kupfernagel Team IKEA - Bianchi + 13'01
132 Kevin Eeckhout Wikipedia + 13'30
133 Ludvig Lundberg Team IKEA - Bianchi + 14'29
134 Hugues Mottin Team Nespresso + 14'37
135 Ludovic Bret Lafarge + 15'16
136 Kristian Sobota Team B&O + 15'25
137 Artur Grigrian Lipton Ice Tea s.t.
138 Artjom Timofeev Wikipedia + 15'41
139 Willem Van Den Eynde Carmeuse Cyclisme s.t.
140 Eric Pidun Team B&O + 15'57
141 Fredy Colop Energie - Diesel + 16'01
142 Baasankhuu Myagmarsuren Domina Vacanze + 16'06
143 Ben Gastauer Vesuvio-Accumalux + 16'50
144 Youcef Reguigui Team Nespresso + 17'17
145 Jean-François Camier Carmeuse Cyclisme + 18'01
146 Danilo Wyss Domina Vacanze + 18'54
147 Lasse Norman Hansen Team Starbucks-RadioShack + 20'42
148 Andrew Fenn Carmeuse Cyclisme + 24'54
149 Marc Machado Auber 93 - Look + 26'45
150 Troels Vinter Team B&O s.t.
151 Cayetano Sarmiento Café de Colombia + 26'58
152 Jaime Alberto Castañeda Café de Colombia + 28'30
153 Gregor Gazvoda Lipton Ice Tea + 28'31
154 Horacio Gallardo Café de Colombia + 29'06
155 Fabien Taillefour Lafarge + 29'43
156 Michael Ford Vesuvio-Accumalux + 29'55
157 Alex Rasmussen Team B&O + 30'29
158 Thurakit Boonratanathanakorn Team 1 + 40'47
159 Aggrey Sebright Wikipedia + 40'59
160 Amadou Bakari Vesuvio-Accumalux + 44'19
161 Kim Michely Team 1 + 44'29
162 Ramon Sinkeldam Team 1 + 46'19
163 Sebastian Batchelor Team 1 + 47'23
164 Adrien Niyonshuti Team 1 + 57'23

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SotD
Great thanks Smile

I love to make my own calculations whether it is points i'm adding up, or some statistic chances of my riders doing this or that in a race Pfft - I know it's sick hehe...
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Gustavovskiy
Ah camooooooon. Not even a podium in that stage? I've got to change my guys' diet with a greater supply of meat Grin

And crap. The gaps were really tiny to my needs damn it! No worries though. I'm sure LLS will attack in the next stage before the cobbles and create a 15min advantage to get the victory!
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SotD
I hope he will drag Sammy with him. I'll gladly give you the stage and 50 seconds Wink
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dave92
great win by Van Garderen, he's having a really good season by doing well in the lighter hills, here and ireland putting in good results and obviously his win.
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SotD
And next up is a Burghardt stagewin Wink
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dave92
SotD wrote:
And next up is a Burghardt stagewin Wink


you really are my biggest fan. Or just obsessed with Burghardt Pfft
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