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Posted on 27-02-2008 15:51
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JustinWK wrote:
Btw maybe it still has to do with the whole Abal thing which has pissed me off but does anyone agree with me that having Bonnet, Pardilla, Abal with a clause sucks when u look at some riders on this list?:
Nintendo-Honda
Bos, Backstedt, Fedrigo
Phillips-Hummel
Roche, Niels Scheunemann, Weening
Sony Ericsson
Maes, Granjel Cabrera
Virgin Media
Mestre, Bazayev, Redondo
Warner Brothers
Cretskins, Engels, Van de Walle
Wikipedia
Mazzanti, Hansen
its just that I think perhaps u (as in crommy) should compare them a bit more next time...its fine u give Abal a clause but then do the same with other talents on other teams (only 2 others are Nolf and Van Avermaet) because yes perhaps Abal is at the same level atm as someone like Weening, or Hansen, Mestre etc. but its just that when I look at the 3 riders that were picked in my team and I look at Nintendo and Warner Brothers I real feel that they have been very lucky 
basically I wanna know if im the only who feels that other teams have a huge advantage when u look at riders on their minimum clause list?  imo these teams have also been unlucky:
Erste
Nolf, Pedraza, Sevilla
Domina Vacanze (they wanted to get rid of him anyway I believe but still its a great rider)
Sanchez Gil
Accumalux-Formex (Ignatiev is a stud and Gil is a great rider)
Ignatiev, Gil, Niemiec
Im not saying its a bad system but just wanted to show that it definately needs some improvement for the next time imo...
The problem with the clauses ist that the person has no recourse. Even if someone had to match the offer dollar for dollar, it would at least give them some kind of recourse if they didn't want to lose their rider.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 15:51
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double post edit, ignore
Edited by stemple on 28-02-2008 06:52
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| mrlol |
Posted on 27-02-2008 15:52
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A_Schleck wrote:
Don't be so sure. A rider like him might do decently on the CT already this season, I mean, he's already better than Ivan Rovny was last season and he won TDU. And on top of that he WILL be an awesome rider in the future.
in 3 seasons maybe... but thats 3 times 900k at this point.... thats way too much imo... still I'm happy people are wasting that much money on him, so I have a better chance getting other riders |
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Posted on 27-02-2008 15:52
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Awesome and awesome, perhaps in the CT, for any PT team he will never be anything more than a helper... He might be a superb TT'er or a good Sprinter, but nothing more... As a GT rider he won't win anything |
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Posted on 27-02-2008 15:53
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I do agree with you Justin, its disappointing to me that Crommy was completely inconsistent but theres nothing I can do about it.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 15:55
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mrlol wrote:
A_Schleck wrote:
Don't be so sure. A rider like him might do decently on the CT already this season, I mean, he's already better than Ivan Rovny was last season and he won TDU. And on top of that he WILL be an awesome rider in the future.
in 3 seasons maybe... but thats 3 times 900k at this point.... thats way too much imo... still I'm happy people are wasting that much money on him, so I have a better chance getting other riders
It won't be three times 900k, because his owner will be able to cut in his wage vastly during the next renewal period.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 15:57
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A_Schleck wrote:
mrlol wrote:
A_Schleck wrote:
Don't be so sure. A rider like him might do decently on the CT already this season, I mean, he's already better than Ivan Rovny was last season and he won TDU. And on top of that he WILL be an awesome rider in the future.
in 3 seasons maybe... but thats 3 times 900k at this point.... thats way too much imo... still I'm happy people are wasting that much money on him, so I have a better chance getting other riders
It won't be three times 900k, because his owner will be able to cut in his wage vastly during the next renewal period.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:03
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Nah it should get smaller ofcourse, but still he will probably end up costing 1,5mil over those 3 years and THEN he might do something, but then again, there might be some other transferrule at that time, causing you to lose him for 500k |
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:07
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We've got a million deal on our hands now.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:21
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Whoever gets Phinney will have a great choice, they can make him into a stage racer, hilly rider, time trialer or sprinter. Assuming he uses enough race days and is trained as a stage racer, I am confident that Phinney will win a Grand Tour in 2012. Its a long term investment for sure.
Thats if the stat increase method remains how it currently is though, it could well change.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:23
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and if we make it to 2012 |
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:24
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mrlol wrote:
and if we make it to 2012
why wouldn't we, everybody loves this game. Long live the Management Game.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:25
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I think it will be hard for it to ever stop its not like a story, its done in single races not a career so fixing a problem is very easy  |
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:26
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Whoever gets Phinney will have a great choice, they can make him into a stage racer, hilly rider, time trialer or sprinter. Assuming he uses enough race days and is trained as a stage racer, I am confident that Phinney will win a Grand Tour in 2012. Its a long term investment for sure.
Thats if the stat increase method remains how it currently is though, it could well change.
Yeah and the way the developing system is now, the riders stop developing when they hit level 4 100xp. So Phinney still have 4 stats increases left. And the fact that he is so extremely young means that even the young Grand Tour riders now will start deteriorating when Phinney is in the prime of his career.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:29
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question for sporting, if he knows, do you have any idea how long the transfer period is going to last. Not like i want it to end any time soon, just a general curiousity question.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:30
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Infact, he could even win a Grand Tour in 2011. The race day limit for ProTour domestiques last year was 75, theres more races this year so that may be more.
If Phinney rides 75 race days for a 2 seasons in a row and also competes in the Tour de l'Avenir both years, thats 340 xp points which would max him out completely.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:32
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stemple wrote:
question for sporting, if he knows, do you have any idea how long the transfer period is going to last. Not like i want it to end any time soon, just a general curiousity question.
2 weeks at least
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:38
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Well i've tried maxing him out, So if this is your comming GT winner then the other riders will really suck:
Phinney Taylor 152 1990 72 80 72 58 79 72 75 72 73 73 59 68
Where 80 is climbing, 72 is hilly and 79 is TT, obviously he's very good, but 72 hilly is really poor, if there's just one hilly stage in the race he's likely to lose 2-3 minutes, besides that his endurance, resistance and recuperation is just poor... |
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| niconico |
Posted on 27-02-2008 16:40
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Yeah it's not much compared to Schleck for instance, but he's so young that his opponents will deteroriate when he gets older.
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Posted on 27-02-2008 16:52
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A_Schleck wrote:
Yeah it's not much compared to Schleck for instance, but he's so young that his opponents will deteroriate when he gets older.
that'll take a lot of seasons...
he'll better be trained as TT'er or sprinter where end, res and rec are less important. |
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