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Giro d'Italia 2011 - Week 1
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 08-05-2011 16:24
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So glad I watched the F1 race before and then went to my computer to watch the final 4km, apparently I missed a boring stage.
As for Farrar, I'm not sure what his deal is. Garmin never seem to have any luck in the Giro.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 08-05-2011 16:27
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Montolivo wrote:
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I cant see how anyone can defend Petacchi's actions, he definately moved across and blocked Cavendish, but he gets away with it because he was marginally enough ahead of Cavendish to get across infont of him.
And the tactic worked for Petacchi, he gets away with it and wins the stage because of it.
Petacchi should have hold a straight line, but Cavendish shouldn't cry everytime somebody do something which he doesn't like. Petacchi was riding inside of the reglement so I think it was a fair victory.
If Cavendish did that to someone else you can bet they would have done a similar reaction - but if Cav does it he is called a crybaby? Ridiculous.
As isso says, it wasnt bad enough that there would be a DQ - certainly not in the Giro, and with an Italian rider in the wrong.
And to those moaning about Ventoso, these sort of bunch sprints dont suit him, and you shouldnt have expected him to really do anything.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-05-2011 16:33
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SportingNonsense wrote:
As isso says, it wasnt bad enough that there would be a DQ - certainly not in the Giro, and with an Italian rider in the wrong.
I didn't say and would never dream of saying that second part
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 08-05-2011 16:33
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Montolivo wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
I cant see how anyone can defend Petacchi's actions, he definately moved across and blocked Cavendish, but he gets away with it because he was marginally enough ahead of Cavendish to get across infont of him.
And the tactic worked for Petacchi, he gets away with it and wins the stage because of it.
Petacchi should have hold a straight line, but Cavendish shouldn't cry everytime somebody do something which he doesn't like. Petacchi was riding inside of the reglement so I think it was a fair victory.
If Cavendish did that to someone else you can bet they would have done a similar reaction - but if Cav does it he is called a crybaby? Ridiculous.
As isso says, it wasnt bad enough that there would be a DQ - certainly not in the Giro, and with an Italian rider in the wrong.
I do agree that calling him a cry baby is hard as it's just that he has so much adrenalin after the finish and when he loses a sprint he is so pumped up with it. As for the sprint for me it's inside the reglement and Petacchi is the winner. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 08-05-2011 16:33
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I didn't expect Ventoso to win, but a top 10 was definitely possible. He isn't slower than some of the guys that finished in front of him, but his positioning was horrible. |
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| Smitho |
Posted on 08-05-2011 16:41
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People were moaning about Cav in swiss last year, petacchi was moving over the road alot more today. Find it funny how most people jump on Cav's back at the first opportunity.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 08-05-2011 16:45
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issoisso wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
As isso says, it wasnt bad enough that there would be a DQ - certainly not in the Giro, and with an Italian rider in the wrong.
I didn't say and would never dream of saying that second part
Hence why it is my post and not yours.
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| moromete |
Posted on 08-05-2011 16:49
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I don't understand how Farrar could throw away such a perfect leadout so quickly. I expected him to be top 3 at least considering how well he entered the last km. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 08-05-2011 17:01
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issoisso wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
As isso says, it wasnt bad enough that there would be a DQ - certainly not in the Giro, and with an Italian rider in the wrong.
I didn't say and would never dream of saying that second part
Although I agree with Isso on the point of the sprint, I would have to say that surely you can't believe it unlikely that they would favour an italian riderl. |
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| pmtg99 |
Posted on 08-05-2011 17:04
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just to rub it into everyone saying Kristoff will get top 10, lucky him got 11th  |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 08-05-2011 17:09
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Smitho wrote:
People were moaning about Cav in swiss last year, petacchi was moving over the road alot more today. Find it funny how most people jump on Cav's back at the first opportunity.
Yep but Petacchi didn't cause a crash. That makes a massive difference.
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| lorymuse |
Posted on 08-05-2011 17:26
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in my opinion Cav has only to blame Renshaw. He stayed in the middle on the road while Petacchi was sprinting and Cav had to pass his teamate on the left. Yes maybe Petacchi tryied to close him but it wasn't unfair it's only how it goes. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 08-05-2011 19:16
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lorymuse wrote:
in my opinion Cav has only to blame Renshaw. He stayed in the middle on the road while Petacchi was sprinting and Cav had to pass his teamate on the left. Yes maybe Petacchi tryied to close him but it wasn't unfair it's only how it goes.
Petacchi didnt try to close him down, he succeeded: he went all the way over the to the left before drifting towards the middle again. Its a bit stupid to somehow blame Renshaw in all of that.
Also, since I dont really like Hunter:
RobbieHunter Robbie Hunter
Good job by Petacchi, nothing wrong with his sprint..some ppl just don't know how to lose..
MarkCavendish Mark Cavendish
@RobbieHunter so that means you won't ever shout at Renshaw again when you hit handlebars in a sprint? Nothing wrong with contact sprinting?
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| Smitho |
Posted on 08-05-2011 19:34
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mb2612 wrote:
Smitho wrote:
People were moaning about Cav in swiss last year, petacchi was moving over the road alot more today. Find it funny how most people jump on Cav's back at the first opportunity.
Yep but Petacchi didn't cause a crash. That makes a massive difference.
Yes, but a crash could have been caused that is the point. So you are implying to only DQ someone if a crash is caused. Tbh i just think it was dangerous as going from right to left then right again was silly fair enough after going left, cav changed sides and he swapped again and cav nearly crashed. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 08-05-2011 19:45
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What the hell is wrong with Ciolek ? Did nothing this season so far. Today I expected from him to be somewhere there in Top 15 but he didn't even finish in a peleton. He didn't have any mechanicals, he simply dropped back at the last 10km.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 08-05-2011 19:56
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SportingNonsense wrote:
RobbieHunter Robbie Hunter
Good job by Petacchi, nothing wrong with his sprint..some ppl just don't know how to lose..
MarkCavendish Mark Cavendish
@RobbieHunter so that means you won't ever shout at Renshaw again when you hit handlebars in a sprint? Nothing wrong with contact sprinting?
Cavendish complains during the sprint, then after seeing a replay says
"no the sprint was fine, but had I done it I would have been disqualified"
He really does need to learn how to lose
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 08-05-2011 20:01
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Probably true, but he had a good point about Hunter nonetheless!
He does seem to have a bit of an attitude of its the world vs him at times - suggesting his main issue with it is that he reckons he would have been penalised in Petacchi's place, and tbh, I wonder if he really thinks the sprint was fine, or if HTC PR people have told him to 'think' that.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 08-05-2011 20:02
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This was a completely unrealistic sprint, where the hell was Contador and Nibali? And why did they wait to the 150-meter mark to sprint?
After playing God knows how many hours of PCM, I know what a sprint is supposed to look like! |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 08-05-2011 20:16
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Probably true, but he had a good point about Hunter nonetheless!
Maybe, but as Hunter is possibly the best SA cyclist ever, I quite like him.
He does seem to have a bit of an attitude of its the world vs him at times - suggesting his main issue with it is that he reckons he would have been penalised in Petacchi's place, and tbh, I wonder if he really thinks the sprint was fine, or if HTC PR people have told him to 'think' that.
Yeah, his comments after the stage that his complaints on crossing the the line were not at Petacchi implies he has been told to say something.
Has he been relegated more than the one stage in the TDF, I can't remember any others but surely he can't be saying all officials hate him based on one incident?
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| DJP19 |
Posted on 08-05-2011 20:20
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I think the sprint was fair. I would blame Cavendish for waiting too long to start the sprint. I am very disappointed in Farrar because Garmin had control of the Peleton and he could only manage 7th. Also, congrats on Lang for holding on for about 200km by himself and taking the KoM jersey, |
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