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PCM.daily DB Stats discussion
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 13:50
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This is my stats for the climbers:
82:
Quintana
Contador
Froome
81:
Rodriguez
Nibali
80:
Valverde
79:
Porte
Uran
Kreuziger
Aru
Majka
78:
Mollema
Peraud
Nieve
Bardet
Pinot
Pozzovivo
TJVG
Talansky
Horner
Rui Costa
Betancur
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 20-07-2014 13:59
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That is quite close to what we have right now.
Except for the fact that we put the best climbers on 83, which means that some of these riders are a level higher than in your suggestion.
It's all provisional atm though, a lot can still happen obviously 
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| Naskela |
Posted on 20-07-2014 14:10
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Except for the fact that we put the best climbers on 83
It looks allot better with 83 as a minimum in my opinion.
how about the REC stats of Richie Porte and Rui Costa?
It somewhat surprises me how high REC stat people had on Porte in all the recent dbs, he should be somewhere around Talansky. I think Rui Costa is sick so i would not change his REC that much if it was up to me 
How do people feel about stats for Gastauer and Kristoff? I know its still early talking abt Mountain stats for Gastauer:/
Edited by Naskela on 20-07-2014 14:10
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 14:17
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I have Gastaur on 73 |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 14:21
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About Valverde, I think he has become more of a puncher than a climber, so I think his mountain should be 79 |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 20-07-2014 14:28
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Valverde is more than 80HI anyway
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 14:52
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I know. I am talking about his mountain, which I don't think should be 80. Also, Porte hasn't done good in the mountains this season so I guess 78 mountain + low recovery for him |
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| alex valceanu |
Posted on 20-07-2014 16:18
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Kelderman deserves a 78 , Van den Broeck as well .If Ten Dam keeps up than him too maybe . Rolland 77-78 ? In rest i kind of agree with your stats .
Edited by alex valceanu on 20-07-2014 16:27
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 16:25
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is it reasonable to say that Gallopin's hill stat, fighter stat and flat stat will be raised? |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 20-07-2014 16:30
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Yes.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 16:39
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alex valceanu wrote:
Kelderman deserves a 78 , Van den Broeck as well .If Ten Dam keeps up than him too maybe . Rolland 77-78 ? In rest i kind of agree with your stats .
I completely forgot about Rolland, he is 78 as well. Kelderman i feel is fine at 77 at the moment (he will surely improve a lot) while i lowered VDB to 77 as I feel he is over the hill |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 16:42
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What about Frank Schleck? I think he deserves a small increase in mountains. |
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| toon83 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:05
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When is the planned PCM Daily, post tdf stat update expected? I would assume there will be one? |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:07
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You can find some info on that here: https://pcmdaily.c...admore=923 and in latest Weekly News ("PCM.daily DB Team additions" part).
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:16
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dark_x2012 wrote:
What about Frank Schleck? I think he deserves a small increase in mountains.
77 imo. |
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| Naskela |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:57
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is it reasonable to say that Gallopin's hill stat, fighter stat and flat stat will be raised?
In my Db i have him at (76 HIL) I don't feel he is quite there yet to compete with the best in the Ardennes so i think 76 would be fine!
Kelderman deserves a 78 , Van den Broeck as well .If Ten Dam keeps up than him too maybe . Rolland 77-78 ? In rest i kind of agree with your stats .
Seems fine by me but what happens to Mollema? don't like to have 3 Belkins at (78 MO) 77 on Mollema sounds weird for me but maybe deserved...
What about Frank Schleck? I think he deserves a small increase in mountains.
When Pinot and TVG accelerate he have no chance of following so if they would be (78 MO) i would think Frank is (77)
Edited by Naskela on 20-07-2014 17:59
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 17:59
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I'd still rate Ten Dam at 77. Don't think he's done that much better than that comparatively.
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| jarneke1404 |
Posted on 20-07-2014 18:28
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can someone give me your opinion about the SP & ACC stats of :
Kittel
Cavendish
Greipel
Demare
Kristoff
Sagan
Degenkolb
And how should I make the difference between a power sprinter (like greipel, kristoff,...) and a pure sprinter (cavendish, coquard,...) ?
Edited by jarneke1404 on 20-07-2014 18:30
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 20-07-2014 18:40
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@Ten Dam/Mollema/some others
It's all a bit early to decide the exact stat, it will depend of future stages(and of course the rest of the season ).
@Jarneke
I think ACC can decide that. Greipel and Kristoff have a bit lower ACC atm.
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| Tafiolmo |
Posted on 20-07-2014 23:27
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Riis123 wrote:
This is my stats for the climbers:
82:
Quintana
Contador
Froome
81:
Rodriguez
Nibali
80:
Valverde
79:
Porte
Uran
Kreuziger
Aru
Majka
78:
Mollema
Peraud
Nieve
Bardet
Pinot
Pozzovivo
TJVG
Talansky
Horner
Rui Costa
Betancur
The stats don't look bad but I tend to use a max of 83 for the best in either mtn or sprints. In Mtns of those above 80 I'd say the below, but then you've also got to take 'rec' into the equation as well. But I guess most people would have similar stats anyway.
83:
Froome
82:
Quintana
Contador
81:
Nibali (but could be 82)
Rodriguez
80:
Valverde
Edited by Tafiolmo on 20-07-2014 23:33
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